Brennan Schofield interview about his Deegan bike claim!

sbarrington314 8/12/2022 5:04pm
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Cayden Thompson wrote:
Wellllllllllll, is this why Deegan won't race any more amateur races? What a crock of crap.
FGR01 wrote:
Makes sense. After this getting out, they would be getting claimed left and right. They'd be crazy to ever run a full-Star pro-spec engine again. This...
Makes sense. After this getting out, they would be getting claimed left and right. They'd be crazy to ever run a full-Star pro-spec engine again.

This makes Tim Cotter look like a guy that took advantage of a kid being naïve, and letting the kid believe that Cotter was some kinda AMA official or held some official role in this whole thing.
Curious if DC (mx sports) will comment on Tim’s involvement. I’ve had a couple run ins with Tim and they were less than desirable.
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If the rule is the bike can be claimed for x amount of dollars. Then that’s the rule.

This is beyond ridiculous.

Shady doesn’t even begin to describe it.

This is flat out bullshit. The rule bending and strong arming is borderline illegal.

We should start a GoFundMe now and save up so we can claim a bike next year. And give it to the 40th place rider in the class.
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Dirt.Squirt 8/12/2022 5:13pm
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wide open wally wrote:
I don’t disagree on the motor part. I’m just saying pump the fucking brakes on the witch hunt lol. You all think Brian literally had a...
I don’t disagree on the motor part. I’m just saying pump the fucking brakes on the witch hunt lol. You all think Brian literally had a 17 year old kid cornered in a room intimidating him? I’ve talked to Deegan, he’s a cool guy. Was he pissed? I bet. Was it wrong the dealers got involved, absolutely.
Quick question. When you talked to the guy we’re you trying to claim his kids sponsors bike? Asking for a friend
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Dirty Points 8/12/2022 5:14pm
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Boomslang wrote:
Can anyone give me synopsis of what was in the clip, I'm unable to watch it at the moment. Thank you.
Cliff notes:
Interview is with a 250B 17 year old, Brennan Schofield, who saved for months working as a mechanic. He used his savings to claim Haiden Deegan's bike for twice MSRP, per AMA claiming rule.

Brennan says that Brian Deegan and an MXSports official cornered him alone and grilled him for half an hour to convince him to drop the claim. Later they finagled the bike out of impound and swapped the motor for a non-Star unit. Finally, the dealer who supports Brennan convinced him to drop the claim, allegedly under threat from Yamaha of termination of his dealer agreement.
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Cayden Thompson wrote:
Wellllllllllll, is this why Deegan won't race any more amateur races? What a crock of crap.
FGR01 wrote:
Makes sense. After this getting out, they would be getting claimed left and right. They'd be crazy to ever run a full-Star pro-spec engine again. This...
Makes sense. After this getting out, they would be getting claimed left and right. They'd be crazy to ever run a full-Star pro-spec engine again.

This makes Tim Cotter look like a guy that took advantage of a kid being naïve, and letting the kid believe that Cotter was some kinda AMA official or held some official role in this whole thing.
sbarrington314 wrote:
Curious if DC (mx sports) will comment on Tim’s involvement. I’ve had a couple run ins with Tim and they were less than desirable.
Yep never dealt with him directly but from the sidelines he seems to have a rather large ego…
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Boomslang wrote:
Can anyone give me synopsis of what was in the clip, I'm unable to watch it at the moment. Thank you.
You better watch it before Yamaha pressure’s everyone to pull it down.
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I looked at a Yamaha Wolverine RMAX2 1000 Sport today and decided I was probably going back to get it. After watching the video and all the bullshit Yamaha and Star has pulled to essentially intimidate a kid. Yamaha can go eff themselves and I'll take my $25k+ elsewhere.

Yamaha, Star and the Deegan's should be ashamed.
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CPR 8/12/2022 5:26pm
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If half of what is in the interview is true and it was up to me; Tim Cotter no longer has a job, neither has the Yamaha rep involved, Brian Deegan and Matt Walker are suspended from attending AMA events, while Star and Yamaha are issued with massive fines on the proviso they issue a public apology to Brennan Schofield. No satisfaction with the apology and they also get further sanctions. Couple of free bikes for Brennan wouldn’t hurt their cause.
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Hi Side wrote:
I looked at a Yamaha Wolverine RMAX2 1000 Sport today and decided I was probably going back to get it. After watching the video and all...
I looked at a Yamaha Wolverine RMAX2 1000 Sport today and decided I was probably going back to get it. After watching the video and all the bullshit Yamaha and Star has pulled to essentially intimidate a kid. Yamaha can go eff themselves and I'll take my $25k+ elsewhere.

Yamaha, Star and the Deegan's should be ashamed.
Yep. Told my son tonight---there will never be a blue bike in our garage again. Never. They won't miss us, but we will keep spending our dough....elsewhere.
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NITRODOG 8/12/2022 5:27pm
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poor incident management by the "establishment" they should have told the kid to go get his 17K back and there's a couple of brand new 23's heading north to your dealer for you, just sign this Non-Disclosure agreement..............Wink
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Hi Side wrote:
I looked at a Yamaha Wolverine RMAX2 1000 Sport today and decided I was probably going back to get it. After watching the video and all...
I looked at a Yamaha Wolverine RMAX2 1000 Sport today and decided I was probably going back to get it. After watching the video and all the bullshit Yamaha and Star has pulled to essentially intimidate a kid. Yamaha can go eff themselves and I'll take my $25k+ elsewhere.

Yamaha, Star and the Deegan's should be ashamed.
El Capitan wrote:
Yep. Told my son tonight---there will never be a blue bike in our garage again. Never. They won't miss us, but we will keep spending our...
Yep. Told my son tonight---there will never be a blue bike in our garage again. Never. They won't miss us, but we will keep spending our dough....elsewhere.
I was thinking the same thing; no more blue for me now or ever. This whole thing is pretty repulsive on the part of MX Sports (Cotter), the Deegans, Yamaha USA, et al. Whole shitballs.....
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I have heard yamaha motor corp. is shitting on the dealers alot. No product or support just sur charges.
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Boomslang wrote:
Can anyone give me synopsis of what was in the clip, I'm unable to watch it at the moment. Thank you.
DA498 wrote:
You better watch it before Yamaha pressure’s everyone to pull it down.
If it ever does get taken down, I will send the video file to anyone that wants to watch it
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Brennan is wise beyond his years. Huge set of nuts too.
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dirtcan 8/12/2022 5:40pm
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It's difficult not to have hard feelings toward Brian and Yamaha if everything is true. Instead of bullying the kid, they should have made him an offer he could hardly refuse, like take back your 17 000$ and we will give you a free 2023 and a free 2024. Damn even throw in a free 2025 if the kid is still unsure and the claimed bike is worth that much!
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Hi Side 8/12/2022 5:42pm
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Deegan's are the new Alessi's. They will be surrounded by controversy and bullshit for the remainder of Haiden's career.
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Dirty Points 8/12/2022 5:45pm
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dirtcan wrote:
It's difficult not to have hard feelings toward Brian and Yamaha if everything is true. Instead of bullying the kid, they should have made him an...
It's difficult not to have hard feelings toward Brian and Yamaha if everything is true. Instead of bullying the kid, they should have made him an offer he could hardly refuse, like take back your 17 000$ and we will give you a free 2023 and a free 2024. Damn even throw in a free 2025 if the kid is still unsure and the claimed bike is worth that much!
Why would they offer all that, when they can just throw around threats and get out of it for nothing?
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studworx 8/12/2022 5:45pm
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Rules are rules. If a claim is made, and money is received the deal is done.

There should be no further conversation.

Inexcusable behaviour.
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bd 8/12/2022 5:47pm
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Either Pro Circuit or Honda HRC should invite him to ride it’s factory 250F bike. It’s the ultimate PR move .

I listened to the interview. Wow!!! Would like to hear Star, Yamaha, Yamaha USA, AMA, and Yamaha Canada sides? A rule is a rule and it’s there to keep teams from going factory at an AM event. It’s a needed rule.
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They say there's always 2 sides to a story and somewhere in the middle is the truth, but regardless:

The rule states you can claim any bike for 2 x MSRP

- You don't need to justify a motive
- regardless of the kid's motive or not, a rule is a rule

I think the absolutele brilliance of this episode is that it brings a new angle to the ethics or etiquette of claiming. No longer should claiming be considered bad taste, unethical etc. The kid makes a perfectly valid and justified point: he wanted a Star bike and knew he could get it for a bargain. His reasons/motives are completely irrelevant.

I really see this as a turning point going ahead for big amateur events, and really opens the door to more claims, strongly discouraging factory teams bringing bombed bikes to these races.

Good on him!
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ProKawi24 8/12/2022 5:48pm
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This is absolutely insane but I also can't say I'm too surprised. That Brennan kid sounds like a good dude and respect for him saving his money like that. If everything he's saying is the total truth, which I believe it to be, then what an absolute disgrace for all those involved.
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NorCalRedRyder 8/12/2022 5:49pm
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"Dangerboy better not have a factory motor! Because I'll claim that shit!
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Boomslang 8/12/2022 5:49pm
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Boomslang wrote:
Can anyone give me synopsis of what was in the clip, I'm unable to watch it at the moment. Thank you.
Dirty Points wrote:
[b]Cliff notes:[/b] Interview is with a 250B 17 year old, Brennan Schofield, who saved for months working as a mechanic. He used his savings to claim...
Cliff notes:
Interview is with a 250B 17 year old, Brennan Schofield, who saved for months working as a mechanic. He used his savings to claim Haiden Deegan's bike for twice MSRP, per AMA claiming rule.

Brennan says that Brian Deegan and an MXSports official cornered him alone and grilled him for half an hour to convince him to drop the claim. Later they finagled the bike out of impound and swapped the motor for a non-Star unit. Finally, the dealer who supports Brennan convinced him to drop the claim, allegedly under threat from Yamaha of termination of his dealer agreement.
Thank you, I managed to watch the vid and I feel for this kid. He saved his cash and followed the rules in order to claim a bike.

I do not condone how Star/Yamaha pressured this kid into a position where he had no choice but to retract his claim and needless to say, I'm disappointed in the way Yamaha went about it.

What a shit show for all involved.


Edit - after giving some more thought...I'm really disappointed as most of the dudes at Star are great guys.
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TXDirt 8/12/2022 5:51pm
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How can someone from MX Sports discourage and even threaten the non-enforcement of its own rules? How does this happen? Where was DC?

This is inexcusable.
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500 Mike 8/12/2022 5:55pm
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Read Racerhead that was recently posted. DC is in full damage control mode!
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Hi Side 8/12/2022 5:57pm
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500 Mike wrote:
Read Racerhead that was recently posted. DC is in full damage control mode!
DC has been doing a lot of that lately. He needs to get his house in order because credibility and trust quickly erode.
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Boomslang wrote:
Can anyone give me synopsis of what was in the clip, I'm unable to watch it at the moment. Thank you.
DA498 wrote:
You better watch it before Yamaha pressure’s everyone to pull it down.
The worst part is this kid is a minor, and was threatened and manipulated.
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USA 8/12/2022 6:02pm
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TXDirt wrote:
How can someone from MX Sports discourage and even threaten the non-enforcement of its own rules? How does this happen? Where was DC?

This is inexcusable.
The kid says he even told Cotter that it was NOT his own idea to rescind the claim and that he was being forced. What a load of shit for Cotter to turn around and tell Weigandt "the kid said he was not pressured."

Even Weigandt is caught in the crosshairs on this one, he's a journalist for Racer X and spread false information on the biggest radio show due to him not doing proper research.
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Lots of people in the crosshairs. Tim cotter,yamaha, star, matt walker. Bad look for all them
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