(Full Interview Added): Cliff Notes from Feld / MX Sports Interview about SuperMotocross Championship

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Still seems like, in the end, all this amounts to is losing a National and adding three more SX races with a somewhat larger purse for the last three. Three races do not make a series and for sure not a 'World Champion".

Seeing Roger say this is groundbreaking for the sport seems silly.
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kpiper wrote:
Still seems like, in the end, all this amounts to is losing a National and adding three more SX races with a somewhat larger purse for...
Still seems like, in the end, all this amounts to is losing a National and adding three more SX races with a somewhat larger purse for the last three. Three races do not make a series and for sure not a 'World Champion".

Seeing Roger say this is groundbreaking for the sport seems silly.
Yeah it’s a weird deal. Classic ‘murica tho “supermotocross World Series” good god what a horribly unsuitable name.
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Interesting he’s not mentioned anywhere in the press release. No quote. No comment. He is MX Sports. You know as well as I do these press...
Interesting he’s not mentioned anywhere in the press release. No quote. No comment.

He is MX Sports.

You know as well as I do these press releases are carefully crafted weeks in advance.

Just a curiosity that he isn’t in the Official press release.

Probably doesn’t mean anything. Or means everything. Or somewhere in between.
I had the same thought about DC. If it’s about LL’s then why did they choose to make the announcement now. Just seems strange. Time will tell.
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Full Interview can be Found Here: https://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/What-is-the-SuperMotocross-World-Championship-Dave-Prater-Feld-and-Carrie-Russell-MX-Sports,21574/ML512,13480 Processing out the interview we just wrapped up with Dave Prater (Feld) and Carrie-Jo (MX Sports), here are some...
Full Interview can be Found Here: https://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/What-is-the-SuperMotocross-Worl…

Processing out the interview we just wrapped up with Dave Prater (Feld) and Carrie-Jo (MX Sports), here are some cliff notes until I'm finished with it.

1. The $10 million purse will be spread across all three entities. A portion is going to rasing the purse at SX, a portion to the National purse, and a big chunk is towards the SuperMotocross World Championship at the end. The final split hasn't been decided but it sounds like it'll be wrapped up by October.

2. Where did the money come from? We were told the additional $10 million was achieved primarily from media rights value of the combined series and new playoff championship. The TV contract, streaming and media rights of all three series are being pitched as one entity and the combined value of this deal will be the primary funding for this purse bump, along with additional income from series sponsors across the three championships. The media partners they're speaking to suggested the playoff series idea to create value for the series and create the added purse amounts in return.

3. Speaking of media rights. Yes, the series will be under one roof in terms of TV and streaming deals. All three championships will have the same home as a combined deal.

4. The Playoff series will sorta be Nascar-esque. Your results in each series will effect how many points you start the playoffs with. They said it's likely someone racing only one series will score enough points to qualify for the playoffs but riders who complete both series will likely have a better points starting position in the playoffs. So riders could still go SX or MX only, but it definitely promotes riders to stick to doing both series.

5. The OEMs are all in favor of this as long as the race series doesn't grow beyond what's being announced. So in prior years, between 17 rounds of Supercross, 12 Motocross Nationals and one off-season race (US Open then Monster Cup), the race season has been 30 events. This new setup will be 31 events: 17 Supercross races, 11 Pro Motocross Nationals, Two playoff races, One World Championship round. It sounds like if the playoff series were to grow any further, it would require a reduction of events from another series.

6. We conducted this interview with Carrie-Jo and Dave as they sat down for an OEM meeting, so every OEM rep got to listen to my terrible interview skills hahaha!

7. These combined ideas are one of the main reasons that Feld decided not to re-new with FIM going forward. This was in the works prior to the SX Global / World Supercross Championship being announced or even in planning.

8. Motocross of Nations. Both Feld and MX Sports have been in contact with In-Front (MXGP) about these developments and the MXGP group is all for it. It will allow MXGP to push their schedule back and spread their events out a little. As the new goal will be for MXGP to race through late September and into early October...with a Motocross of Nations to follow the MXGP series and SuperMotocross series conclusions. Hopefully this means rider's excuses for preparing for Monster Cup to end.
Any word what the tracks will look like?
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It sounds like it has potential to be cool for the fans but damn I thought burnout was a big enough problem already. Yeah only one more race (if I read that right) but extending the racing season all the way into October? the top guys will have a 10 month racing season, thats insane. Its not like they had much time with the current setup with supercoss prep and all. This only going to make it that much harder on them, and they will have almost no time to heal up any nagging injuries.
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MikeyP wrote:
It sounds like it has potential to be cool for the fans but damn I thought burnout was a big enough problem already. Yeah only one...
It sounds like it has potential to be cool for the fans but damn I thought burnout was a big enough problem already. Yeah only one more race (if I read that right) but extending the racing season all the way into October? the top guys will have a 10 month racing season, thats insane. Its not like they had much time with the current setup with supercoss prep and all. This only going to make it that much harder on them, and they will have almost no time to heal up any nagging injuries.
Where are you getting that it is extended into Oct?
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Roger said it’s good. Bow down vital followers.
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MikeyP wrote:
It sounds like it has potential to be cool for the fans but damn I thought burnout was a big enough problem already. Yeah only one...
It sounds like it has potential to be cool for the fans but damn I thought burnout was a big enough problem already. Yeah only one more race (if I read that right) but extending the racing season all the way into October? the top guys will have a 10 month racing season, thats insane. Its not like they had much time with the current setup with supercoss prep and all. This only going to make it that much harder on them, and they will have almost no time to heal up any nagging injuries.
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Where are you getting that it is extended into Oct?
I thought the press release said October 14th was the finale? Maybe I’m wrong. Not that big a deal tho, same weekend monster cup used to be
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Ken would have won this last year
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MikeyP wrote:
It sounds like it has potential to be cool for the fans but damn I thought burnout was a big enough problem already. Yeah only one...
It sounds like it has potential to be cool for the fans but damn I thought burnout was a big enough problem already. Yeah only one more race (if I read that right) but extending the racing season all the way into October? the top guys will have a 10 month racing season, thats insane. Its not like they had much time with the current setup with supercoss prep and all. This only going to make it that much harder on them, and they will have almost no time to heal up any nagging injuries.
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Where are you getting that it is extended into Oct?
I thought the press release said October 14th was the finale? Maybe I’m wrong. Not that big a deal tho, same weekend monster cup used to...
I thought the press release said October 14th was the finale? Maybe I’m wrong. Not that big a deal tho, same weekend monster cup used to be
and one is replacing the last national which is typically held the end of August...my understanding is to get the manufacturers to buy in was to give them more off time in the schedule...we will have to wait until the schedule is announced to see.
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Ken would have won this last year
He still would need to win the playoff
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7 was the interesting one for me, and im glad it came up,
i wonder if the american based OEM's told them that the FIM world title didnt mean alot,
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Ken would have won this last year
Nope he would have been seeded first and received whatever points they will give for that heading into the three races...to win it he would have had to score more points in the three races than anyone else...
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lostboy819 wrote:
Because he is busy at LLs this week. I am sure he will talk about it when LLs is over.
ML512 wrote:
DC was supposed to be on the interview but lost his voice today, so Carrie did it with us instead.
TXDirt wrote:
Interesting he’s not mentioned anywhere in the press release. No quote. No comment. He is MX Sports. You know as well as I do these press...
Interesting he’s not mentioned anywhere in the press release. No quote. No comment.

He is MX Sports.

You know as well as I do these press releases are carefully crafted weeks in advance.

Just a curiosity that he isn’t in the Official press release.

Probably doesn’t mean anything. Or means everything. Or somewhere in between.
It doesn't mean anything.

DC is a crucial part of mx sports, and great pr for the series, but anybody that has ever been involved in dealing with Mx sports knows who runs things, and they were in the interview today.
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Roger said it’s good. Bow down vital followers.
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How exactly is this an 'important' and 'necessary' step forward? What am I missing?

If Chris feels it is 'necessary' to stop the WSX series then I get it even though I don't like it. I guess the factories don't want the WSX either along with Feld/MX Sports.
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The money needs to be biased towards the riders at the back, not the Pros, I know it's not that simple, but it needs to change.
How can this be so Wrong?
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Seems like if they carry 22 riders into the playoffs then their starting points for the playoffs may be the same as a regular race placement (26 for guy in the lead, 23 for second, etc.). All the races before the playoffs culminate in just 1 race worth of points in the playoff timeframe.
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Ken would have won this last year
soggy wrote:
He still would need to win the playoff
What I’m saying is with how he was riding in both series, and depending on the layout of the finale (outdoorish?) , he would have probably won. But it’s a stupid argument because there’s literally no way I can back that up with any sort of fact
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Ken would have won this last year
soggy wrote:
He still would need to win the playoff
What I’m saying is with how he was riding in both series, and depending on the layout of the finale (outdoorish?) , he would have probably...
What I’m saying is with how he was riding in both series, and depending on the layout of the finale (outdoorish?) , he would have probably won. But it’s a stupid argument because there’s literally no way I can back that up with any sort of fact
Sure you can..."Stamp it!"
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8/2/2022 8:36pm
The promoters basically said: all these off season races, Geneva, whatever, they’re done - you work for us forever now.

Feld/Mxsports put up against a wall when they came up with “supermotocross” and decided they had to fight back as opposed to let WSX take all the best riders away from outdoors and possibly SX.

But now you have 17+11+3 races a year now all run by essentially same promoter/series. Yeah its different event/style for some of the rounds but I can’t help but think the non hardcore fan is going to be bored with this many races in a year
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Didn't Bill France (Daytona Group) win the bid for AMA Pro Racing (AKA The nationals)?
Then Daytona Group leased it to MX Sports for how many years?
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Roger said it’s good. Bow down vital followers.
I would think more money (bigger purse) and better media deal would be good for the sport. I certainly don't see it as a bad thing. Perfect? No. Better? most likely.
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For any of you computer nerds out there, I'm getting serious Intel vs amd vibes.

Wsx is going to be massive for the sport whether you like the series or not.
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Nothing to watch. Take this money for this deal and have an outside the 15th in points on both classes race. Make them some money. Support the ones that pay the bills
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If one were to think Feld would risk Not Having their SX Champion(s) in the final 3 events, well, I've some riverside lots in Lismore (look up the flooding here in OZ, boys and girls) to sell you. Woohoo

So, either they have separate series point consideration for each series to place into the final 2 then 1 races, be it top 10 (or whatever bloody number they pick) or 'Protected Rider' Lists . To think Feld (well, and MXSports) would not want Guaranteed participation of Their Champion(s) and high placers being out there, is a bit naïve.

So, it appears to be a bit of a 'Chase' set up. So be it ( though I've Never been a fan of such things ) - so long as it doesn't migrate to the Two Original series.

WSX vs this - Meh. I DGAF. It's definitely a US reaction to the WSX series. Fair enough, they needed a strategy against that, and I'm not particularly interested in arguing for / defending the Australian company that is behind WSX.

That it appears the combine is giving more money to the Participants is a good thing. But I doubt that it 'spreads' too far back. Still, far better than that F**kwit, Luongo The Drongo has had on offer, the Bastard.

I just wish the Feld / MXSports team up could have resisted the usual US 'thing' of grabbing at the "World Championship" naming - 'Merica. Whistling
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Bearuno wrote:
If one were to think Feld would risk Not Having their SX Champion(s) in the final 3 events, well, I've some riverside lots in Lismore (look...
If one were to think Feld would risk Not Having their SX Champion(s) in the final 3 events, well, I've some riverside lots in Lismore (look up the flooding here in OZ, boys and girls) to sell you. Woohoo

So, either they have separate series point consideration for each series to place into the final 2 then 1 races, be it top 10 (or whatever bloody number they pick) or 'Protected Rider' Lists . To think Feld (well, and MXSports) would not want Guaranteed participation of Their Champion(s) and high placers being out there, is a bit naïve.

So, it appears to be a bit of a 'Chase' set up. So be it ( though I've Never been a fan of such things ) - so long as it doesn't migrate to the Two Original series.

WSX vs this - Meh. I DGAF. It's definitely a US reaction to the WSX series. Fair enough, they needed a strategy against that, and I'm not particularly interested in arguing for / defending the Australian company that is behind WSX.

That it appears the combine is giving more money to the Participants is a good thing. But I doubt that it 'spreads' too far back. Still, far better than that F**kwit, Luongo The Drongo has had on offer, the Bastard.

I just wish the Feld / MXSports team up could have resisted the usual US 'thing' of grabbing at the "World Championship" naming - 'Merica. Whistling
I got nothing to add except I'm from Lismore haha (don't worry there was no offence taken haha)
Well luckily I live on a hill just outside Lismore but still had mates that lost everything..

Aaanyway back to talking about a world championship that only takes place in one country and World Championship riders can't enter..
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I Still think the prize purse is pittance. $10 Million sounds like a lot when you are buying a home. As a prize purse across this series, with all the riders participating, and teams effort Sounds like the grand prize could be $1 Million.

Question: What's the last guy across the line at a NASCAR race get paid? $70,000? Hey, I'm not asking for back markers to get that much money, but they could get more than $125.

As far as streaming, even streaming on Peacock, Motocross' mentality is back in 2004. They are greedy and are too worried about their content being shared. And really that's what they need to release and let it grow. Let people talk about the races. Share it within reason and let it burn like wildfire. It will gain viewers.

Anyway. I am a cynic. I think its the same shit show with a different bow.

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Wish list:

* Allow 300 2-strokes to compete with 450's.
* Bring back Glen Helen as a venue.
* Provide a free stream of the races online.
* Allow 250 two strokes to compete with 250f's.
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