What happened to KR?

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7/4/2022 7:45am
kiwifan wrote:
they would rather give him shit...look at Magoofan who says repeatedly he is a Ken fan yet sticks the knife in....race fans are so nasty
Speaking truth is "sticking the knife in". Good grief man.... could you be anymore dramatic.
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7/4/2022 7:59am
Looked he was being his typical not “relentless” self and gave up when some people passed him.
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7/4/2022 8:03am
kijen wrote:
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to...
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to hang.

This ia not new he has to deal with and fans have to deal with his reults, but to call him out because of his health is pretty weak, when you have seeen what he is capable of when feeling strong.
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late in moto's, especially arm strength.

For everyone that wants to call him out, let us know when/where you are going to line up in your next moto and we will critique your performance.
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7/4/2022 8:41am
kijen wrote:
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to...
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to hang.

This ia not new he has to deal with and fans have to deal with his reults, but to call him out because of his health is pretty weak, when you have seeen what he is capable of when feeling strong.
VetRider97 wrote:
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late...
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late in moto's, especially arm strength.

For everyone that wants to call him out, let us know when/where you are going to line up in your next moto and we will critique your performance.
When you are on his level critiques from all levels will give their opinions. That’s how it works, and always will in every sport.
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7/4/2022 8:44am
kijen wrote:
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to...
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to hang.

This ia not new he has to deal with and fans have to deal with his reults, but to call him out because of his health is pretty weak, when you have seeen what he is capable of when feeling strong.
VetRider97 wrote:
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late...
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late in moto's, especially arm strength.

For everyone that wants to call him out, let us know when/where you are going to line up in your next moto and we will critique your performance.
Ah the old "you suck at motocross so you can't have an opinion " routine .
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7/4/2022 8:50am
kijen wrote:
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to...
Not sure why people cant accept he has a fragile health system, just what it is. Serious doubt he would not like to be able to hang.

This ia not new he has to deal with and fans have to deal with his reults, but to call him out because of his health is pretty weak, when you have seeen what he is capable of when feeling strong.
VetRider97 wrote:
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late...
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late in moto's, especially arm strength.

For everyone that wants to call him out, let us know when/where you are going to line up in your next moto and we will critique your performance.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Ah the old "you suck at motocross so you can't have an opinion " routine .
X2. Classic, Lame
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7/4/2022 8:55am
CPR wrote:
😂 I didn’t even notice it until you asked. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/557742/s1200_1BB91462_3F3A_496A_9634_32B5DFCE07A0.jpg[/img]
😂 I didn’t even notice it until you asked.


ADynes wrote:
Maybe an Alice in Chains reference. I think the lyrics to the song Rooster match pretty well with his recent narrative.
Sandusky26 wrote:
Best band of all time
It ain’t like that anymore😉
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7/4/2022 8:59am
vdrsnk04 wrote:
Looked he was being his typical not “relentless” self and gave up when some people passed him.
Maybe he forgot about his IG post???
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7/4/2022 9:05am
I found it ironic when RC said on the broadcast that "this isn't like Kenny."
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7/4/2022 9:42am
Was just looking at this week's Pit Bits. "Rooster" is his mechanic's nickname
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7/4/2022 9:48am
VetRider97 wrote:
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late...
Agree 100%. He is racing against some of the top moto racers in the world and it's very likely the past injuries affect his riding late in moto's, especially arm strength.

For everyone that wants to call him out, let us know when/where you are going to line up in your next moto and we will critique your performance.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Ah the old "you suck at motocross so you can't have an opinion " routine .
mxb2 wrote:
X2. Classic, Lame
Where did he say you can’t have an opinion? I read it as Kenny struggles and everyone critiques, so the next time you line up we critique that.
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7/4/2022 9:59am
kiwifan wrote:
they would rather give him shit...look at Magoofan who says repeatedly he is a Ken fan yet sticks the knife in....race fans are so nasty
Magoofan wrote:
Speaking truth is "sticking the knife in". Good grief man.... could you be anymore dramatic.
I get that some of us feel like “it’s getting old”…
I get that KR must be frustrated as F/(<.

I also get that many of us seem to have forgotten about the extent of his wrist injury and that it was typically a career ender. His “process” of surgeries, therapies and rehabs took their toll on his system. Then, as I recall, he took another hit from the San Diego Lyme Debacle…and that was after the OTHER wrist injury.

His “systems”, from immune to digestive and potentially even endocrine and exocrine took a beating during that period of time.

I remember reading up on this stuff back when he was going thru all of this. The extensive bone & tissue grafting/growth doesn’t take place as rapidly and certainly not as effectively as his did…in such a short period of time …without some serious “special therapies” and those therapies seem to have a price.

So, watching him have all these years of being susceptible to exposures and failure hasn’t surprised me one bit.

He’s still out there competing with the fastest racers in 2 disciplines.

More power to him.

And, sure, call ma a “Fan Boy”. Doesn’t offend me; because, in this case…well…we all know I’m a fan of all these racers that hang it out at this level

Especially when they throw caution to the wind and show me a little “Magoo” every now and then.
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7/4/2022 10:09am
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Ah the old "you suck at motocross so you can't have an opinion " routine .
mxb2 wrote:
X2. Classic, Lame
Zycki11 wrote:
Where did he say you can’t have an opinion? I read it as Kenny struggles and everyone critiques, so the next time you line up we...
Where did he say you can’t have an opinion? I read it as Kenny struggles and everyone critiques, so the next time you line up we critique that.
Yea, compare a world class pro. To a vital poster. Lol. Okay.
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7/4/2022 10:31am
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I get that some of us feel like “it’s getting old”… I get that KR must be frustrated as F/(<. I also get that many of...
I get that some of us feel like “it’s getting old”…
I get that KR must be frustrated as F/(<.

I also get that many of us seem to have forgotten about the extent of his wrist injury and that it was typically a career ender. His “process” of surgeries, therapies and rehabs took their toll on his system. Then, as I recall, he took another hit from the San Diego Lyme Debacle…and that was after the OTHER wrist injury.

His “systems”, from immune to digestive and potentially even endocrine and exocrine took a beating during that period of time.

I remember reading up on this stuff back when he was going thru all of this. The extensive bone & tissue grafting/growth doesn’t take place as rapidly and certainly not as effectively as his did…in such a short period of time …without some serious “special therapies” and those therapies seem to have a price.

So, watching him have all these years of being susceptible to exposures and failure hasn’t surprised me one bit.

He’s still out there competing with the fastest racers in 2 disciplines.

More power to him.

And, sure, call ma a “Fan Boy”. Doesn’t offend me; because, in this case…well…we all know I’m a fan of all these racers that hang it out at this level

Especially when they throw caution to the wind and show me a little “Magoo” every now and then.
Excellent post Manny.

I have definitely not forgotten what Ken has been thru as far as injuries and all the other BS. I was at San Diego when his arm went into Webbs wheel. Count me as one of the many who was beyond jazzed to see him come back from all that and start winning again. I have the utmost respect for his grit and talent, not to mention his speed is beyond insane.

He does appear to get in his own head from his social media posts. His last "f*** you" outburst was really bad and it diminished him. .He also shares far too much about his health for my tastes. We now live in a world where people share far too much if you ask me.

By my stating it's about the time of the season Ken starts fading is not a slam....it's just what we've seen the last few years. Wouldn't be at all surprised if he drops out before the season is up. If not....I will be rooting for him.
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7/4/2022 10:34am
I feel like both sides of the argument are saying the exact same thing, but are just reacting differently to it.

This is Kenny. He gets sick a lot, and when he is sick, it hits him harder. It's just his life now. Some people just see it and go, "it is what it is", and some people get pissed when they hear "the same excuse over and over" but still demand some sort of explanation? That's the explanation. He's going to be using the same excuse til the end of his career because that's just what is happening.

Not sure what else there is to say. He wrecked his immune system from the surgeries and antibiotics from limegate, and this is the result of that.
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7/4/2022 10:35am Edited Date/Time 7/4/2022 10:35am
I’m a fan. Great racer, saw him at the Colorado round and he was floating. So cool to see in person. Not sure about the late race or mid season fade but could be anything, we don’t know.
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7/4/2022 10:36am Edited Date/Time 7/4/2022 10:37am
mxb2 wrote:
X2. Classic, Lame
Zycki11 wrote:
Where did he say you can’t have an opinion? I read it as Kenny struggles and everyone critiques, so the next time you line up we...
Where did he say you can’t have an opinion? I read it as Kenny struggles and everyone critiques, so the next time you line up we critique that.
mxb2 wrote:
Yea, compare a world class pro. To a vital poster. Lol. Okay.
Why does that matter? Do you not go to any event and compare yourself to the best and are baffled at how well they do things?
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7/4/2022 10:44am
I know Kenny has publicly stated he has dealt with espstein barr and herpes zoster(shingles), but I wonder if he also has lupus which can cause fatigue, joint pain, rash, and fever. My mom has lupus and it can literally kick her ass one day, and the next day she’ll be fine.
7/4/2022 11:00am Edited Date/Time 7/4/2022 12:23pm
I'm a fan of Kenny the person and Kenny the family man. I'm also a fan of Kenny on the track and I NEVER root against him, even when he's beating "my guys."

What I'm not a fan of is his APPARENT perception of how everyone sees him. That rant before the season was cringe-worthy, I think, even for most of his die-hard fans.

Not many, if ANY, people are saying he should quit or he has nothing left to add to the sport. Basically we are saying yeah Kenny is a total legend, and will probably start the season super strong, winning races and blowing some minds....then about halfway he'll unfortunately fade dramatically because of health issues out of his control.

He loses his mind publicly on Instagram because of those opinions....

Then halfway through the season we are seeing that fade, and he publicly says it's because of "health issues out of his control."

I think that's what most people have a problem with.
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7/4/2022 11:10am
I geussi ts just the nature of an internet forum. People complain when they riders hide an injury, then do not believe it when a rider tells people about an injury or health problem. These days it seems like if somebody does not like something they hear , they claim its a lie. The world is not always going to fit into what we would like it to be. I think that Kenny's past shows that he is dedicated to riding at the top level. and doing whatever he can to do so. Just going under for surgery multiple times close to each other can cause bad stuff.Mentally and or physically. My experience with an infection in a bone and the surgeries and medicines to recover have let me see first hand how the recovery is not really ever over. I prefer him to be honest and let us fans know what the issue is. When he was not saying much , while he was off the bike in SX there where many people saying Kenny was not doing well because of his dislike of the bike. Kenny could be lying about being sick. But who benefits from that? Maybe Honda a little since there is less talk of him not liking the bike now. But they have 3 other riders on top, all on the same generation of bike. So would it really matter if Kenny said he didn't like the Honda ? If he was Honda's only rider maybe. Telling everybody he is sick just lets them know he's going to be easier to beat. The other riders will know when they see Kenny hiding that he's not going to put up a fight. I could see maybe he would lie to try to make other racers think he only faded because he was sick, and that they would have a harder time beating a non sick Kenny. I think that there is enough history of Kenny's injuries to point to it being the truth when he says he was sick. 11 years after my fight with infection and some minor bone grafts when compared to what Kenny went through, and I still have many days that I just do not feel right. The strong antibiotics, large amounts of Ibuprofen still cause me to have bad days all this time later. So its not hard for me to believe that Kenny ,who went through 100 times more than I did would also have some lingering effects years later. I for one am glad he is still here and has given us all the "why" . He could have pulled a Blake Baggett or James Stewart and probably cashed in a big career ending insurance policy in 2017 . But he fought hard to be still here racing. I get frustrated with Kenny's fading as a fan , but I think with all that he has fought through to still be racing , if he was out of shape, he would train harder to fix that . Unless of course it would make him sick. Maybe he is trying to find a balance between training hard enough for him to be strong , but not so hard that it wears him down. I just find it hard to believe he would fight through everything he has , to just not get into better physical condition if it was possible. What does everybody think it is , if he is not really sick? He has to be mentally strong to have come back through everything. Although I'm sure it has taken a toll. I am glad he has given us all some type of information. Maybe if not for his past I might not believe him. Maybe it is a little mental now too. He has been through so much mentally. I can not imagine having to go under as many times as he has , so close to each other for those surgeries. I had went under 4 times over a year, and it did strange things to me.Maybe admitting its mental is too hard to do and still be able to go out and compete at the top level and he just is not willing to give up yet. If that was me it would make me feel sick, so in a way both could be true? Someday 10 or more years from now Kenny will go on some podcast and tell us all if it wa BS, or what the real deal was. Rides like the second moto in Colorado seem to make me think that he is telling the truth.
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7/4/2022 11:54am
that first lap of moto 2 was insane. That was a full on sprint to get into the lead. I would think that could be taxing for later in the moto
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That would be incorrect, you call yourself a hippie?

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7/4/2022 12:38pm Edited Date/Time 7/4/2022 12:39pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Where did he say you can’t have an opinion? I read it as Kenny struggles and everyone critiques, so the next time you line up we...
Where did he say you can’t have an opinion? I read it as Kenny struggles and everyone critiques, so the next time you line up we critique that.
mxb2 wrote:
Yea, compare a world class pro. To a vital poster. Lol. Okay.
Zycki11 wrote:
Why does that matter? Do you not go to any event and compare yourself to the best and are baffled at how well they do things?
Top guys are amazing. And i would never compare myself to them. Buts its a mxsx forum. Peope have comments on top riders. Top guys like social media, which comes with good and bad opinions. Cant have it. Both. Ways.
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7/4/2022 12:41pm
Bearuno wrote:
What's with the Chook on the seat? Unsure
CPR wrote:
😂 I didn’t even notice it until you asked. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/03/557742/s1200_1BB91462_3F3A_496A_9634_32B5DFCE07A0.jpg[/img]
😂 I didn’t even notice it until you asked.


I thought it was a Bremen musician reference. It’s a German fairy tale. From Wikipedia “ In the story, a donkey, a dog, a cat, and a rooster, all past their prime years in life and usefulness on their respective farms, were soon to be discarded or mistreated by their masters.”
7/4/2022 1:07pm
Sandusky26 wrote:
Best band of all time
1911 wrote:
That would be incorrect, you call yourself a hippie? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/04/558015/s1200_373D2887_7E27_4E16_A6F9_1D52390E78D0.jpg[/img]
That would be incorrect, you call yourself a hippie?

Hell mf-ing yeah! Greatest guitarist ever too by the way
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Best band of all time
1911 wrote:
That would be incorrect, you call yourself a hippie? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/04/558015/s1200_373D2887_7E27_4E16_A6F9_1D52390E78D0.jpg[/img]
That would be incorrect, you call yourself a hippie?

Hell mf-ing yeah! Greatest guitarist ever too by the way
I’ll take SRV any day
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1911 wrote:
That would be incorrect, you call yourself a hippie? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/04/558015/s1200_373D2887_7E27_4E16_A6F9_1D52390E78D0.jpg[/img]
That would be incorrect, you call yourself a hippie?

Hell mf-ing yeah! Greatest guitarist ever too by the way
Zycki11 wrote:
I’ll take SRV any day
Saw him back in 83 at Chicago fest. Definitely up there with the best. I've seen the Dead too .... eh .
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Saw him back in 83 at Chicago fest. Definitely up there with the best. I've seen the Dead too .... eh .
Lmao...picking the greatest guitarist in the world is like picking the best Mxer in the world. Totally subjective. SRV, Angus Young, Steve Vai, Clapton, BB King, you name them...seen 'em all. Each one is a master at what they do. No way to declare a "best".
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Lmao...picking the greatest guitarist in the world is like picking the best Mxer in the world. Totally subjective. SRV, Angus Young, Steve Vai, Clapton, BB King...
Lmao...picking the greatest guitarist in the world is like picking the best Mxer in the world. Totally subjective. SRV, Angus Young, Steve Vai, Clapton, BB King, you name them...seen 'em all. Each one is a master at what they do. No way to declare a "best".
Ok one of the best I've seen in my opinion. Johnny Winter is up there too .
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7/4/2022 3:00pm
plowboy wrote:
Lmao...picking the greatest guitarist in the world is like picking the best Mxer in the world. Totally subjective. SRV, Angus Young, Steve Vai, Clapton, BB King...
Lmao...picking the greatest guitarist in the world is like picking the best Mxer in the world. Totally subjective. SRV, Angus Young, Steve Vai, Clapton, BB King, you name them...seen 'em all. Each one is a master at what they do. No way to declare a "best".
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Ok one of the best I've seen in my opinion. Johnny Winter is up there too .
Duane Allman…?
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