Herlings on Gypsy tales

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ayearinmx 6/20/2022 9:47pm
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Juck wrote:
Because he's the next best guy after Herlings. He doesn't even crash less, Herlings it seems is just genetically prone to injury. And honestly last year...
Because he's the next best guy after Herlings. He doesn't even crash less, Herlings it seems is just genetically prone to injury.

And honestly last year I think Febvre was better and so was Prado up until it started falling apart at Teutschenthal. I'm not trying to crap on Gajser here, I'm a big fan of his and he seems like a great person but he's in a unique situation where he's not the best guy but of the top guys he's the one that stays healthy the most.

Gonna get clowned on for this but the fact that a pretty significant amount of people think Gajser is better than Herlings shows he's overrated, not underrated, in my opinion.

Gajser did have that amazing ride at Orlyonok last year though, if we saw more of that I would be more agreeable to the claims he's underrated or better than Herlings etc.
Gajser had more moto wins than Febvre, more overalls, more podiums, more moto podiums and beat him in more motos than Febvre beat Gajser... He also passed him numerous times more. The broken collarbone and the penalty at Mantova were the reasons Gajser wasn't at least second in the championship, but when he broke it, he was 28 ahead of Febvre

And Gajser's numbers are even better when compared to Prado

But yea... Of course he only ever wins because other riders get injured Pinch

And just to be clear, Herlings had better results, numbers, stats in 2021 and fully deserved the title.
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183Matt 6/20/2022 9:51pm
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deanwhite51 wrote:
so many people on here talking down on GyspyGang yet hes had how many great atheletes on the show? hes had some amazing conversations and for...
so many people on here talking down on GyspyGang yet hes had how many great atheletes on the show? hes had some amazing conversations and for all us die hard fans.. gypsy isnt a motocore podcast.. Its mean to be for every day people who want to tune in. Youd be suprised how many non moto interested people tune into Gypsy podcast and listen to these moto episodes and have 0 knowledge of the sport but enjoy the conversation.
almost 100k youtube subscribers speaks volume on his contetnt.
I like the guy and his podcast, I don’t even mind the jujitsu thrown in during every interview. I just can’t handle the constant swearing like a 7 year old that just learned the word. He does have a great following, and I really dig that he interviews people of all different backgrounds. I just believe his following would be even bigger if he cleaned up the cussing and bro down a bit.
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Phil109 6/20/2022 9:54pm
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He only wants a sand track. Funny….
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GoggleFiend904 6/20/2022 10:01pm
6/20/2022 10:01pm
Even though it was a call out, that was pretty humble for herlings. He said a sand track first then mentioned possibly a non sand track I believe. He also said he he understands why tomac didn’t try racing him at Ironman, being so close to the championship and all.
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TbonesPop 6/20/2022 10:09pm
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One thing I've learned in life, is not to worry about the shit talkers. Its the ones who stay quiet that ya gotta worry about. Those are the ones that get medieval on your ass.
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Project 2501 6/20/2022 10:14pm
6/20/2022 10:14pm
So interesting that herlings described the entire contents of milsap’s locker.
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tek14 6/20/2022 10:34pm
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Just love to see how butthurt everyone from Usa are about this.
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Boomslang 6/20/2022 10:39pm
6/20/2022 10:39pm
gt80rider wrote:
What if ET3 says "if you wanna find out who the fastest overall is, we gotta race outdoors AND INDOORS".... you see.. ET3 isn't a one...
What if ET3 says "if you wanna find out who the fastest overall is, we gotta race outdoors AND INDOORS".... you see.. ET3 isn't a one trick pony like Herl-dawg.... put some big money on it.. one 30 plus two outdoors for the first moto... second moto is 20 plus two on a full scoot SX track.... lets find out who the best overall racer is...!!
FerCzD wrote:
Fair enough. I don't even think Herlings is the King in MXGP, he is forgetting there is one active rider that has more big boy titles...
Fair enough.

I don't even think Herlings is the King in MXGP, he is forgetting there is one active rider that has more big boy titles than him and is well on route to score another one. No hate on him, but that's the truth.
You speak the truth...
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MKMX 6/20/2022 10:46pm
6/20/2022 10:46pm Edited Date/Time 6/20/2022 10:51pm
Given Herlings speech after MXON where he states it’s done and dusted (in terms of who’s better) and never need be brought up again… Seems the only one losing sleep over it is Herlings.

10:45

https://youtu.be/bOpORr2NE6c
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profeshenal125 6/20/2022 10:49pm
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tek14 wrote:
Just love to see how butthurt everyone from Usa are about this.
Haha yeah. Jeff is a fun guy Jeff is Dutch . Dutch people r fun people. Jeff is easily the fastest sand rider right now. Sand tracks are all that matter. Sand tracks require more skill. Jeff has more than anyone. Championships take months . 1 race is 1 day and that’s all that matters in life. That 1 day changed my Life . That 1 day Jeff of T ony was incredible. Everyone Lives 1 day at a time not 5 months. That’s why you call them out let’s line this up 1 day.
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ProbablyDave 6/20/2022 11:15pm
6/20/2022 11:15pm
As others have said, Herlings needs to earn the right make such a challenge. This isn't like Everts vs Carmichael. If Herlings was racking up world titles while Tomac was racking up his three championships (in a row) then fine but for now Herlings is playing second fiddle to Gasjer.

Herlings reminds me of Stewart. We all know how good Stewart was, but the dude only has ONE 450 outdoor title. Doesn't matter how fast your lap times are if you can't bring home the title. It's kinda sad to see Herlings think of himself like his fanboys do.
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motokiwi 6/20/2022 11:53pm
6/20/2022 11:53pm
Herlings may be the FMOTP - but hes still a Dutch knob jockey
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Thisusernameisavailable 6/21/2022 12:00am
6/21/2022 12:00am
McG194 wrote:
I just watched the YouTube video with him talking about racing Eli. In my opinion he comes off as a complete jackass. Of course, he wants...
I just watched the YouTube video with him talking about racing Eli.

In my opinion he comes off as a complete jackass. Of course, he wants to race Eli on a hammered Lommel track. Nothing like cherry picking what suits your abilities the best. How about 3 races? One at Lommel one at an outdoor American track and one supercross track.
So you want to give Eli 2x shots at it, but Herlings just 1?

How about a 4th Moto around Hawkstone park in February? Who would bag that one?

You see, this could go on & on forever.
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ProbablyDave wrote:
As others have said, Herlings needs to earn the right make such a challenge. This isn't like Everts vs Carmichael. If Herlings was racking up world...
As others have said, Herlings needs to earn the right make such a challenge. This isn't like Everts vs Carmichael. If Herlings was racking up world titles while Tomac was racking up his three championships (in a row) then fine but for now Herlings is playing second fiddle to Gasjer.

Herlings reminds me of Stewart. We all know how good Stewart was, but the dude only has ONE 450 outdoor title. Doesn't matter how fast your lap times are if you can't bring home the title. It's kinda sad to see Herlings think of himself like his fanboys do.
I get what your saying and so do teams and sponsors, but some fans just love to see a bad ass on a motorcycle do unhuman things. Dungey is a freak but his highlights reel would be very small and boring. Herlings and JS7 just have that X factor that I would watch a ride of a lifetime over a title any day.
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Joshracing 6/21/2022 12:28am
6/21/2022 12:28am
Hey guys, World championship.... if ET thinks he's the best, he's on the start line in MXGP, put it up to the big boys.
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Coggl 6/21/2022 1:11am
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I saw Steve get mad at this which i don't blame him, but he forgets Jason's podcast is basically just shooting the shit with pro riders and not much more, he did the same shit with Daniel Ricardo about racing a GT3 car at the Bathurst 12 hour which is the most ridiculous thing.
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FilthyGrungy 6/21/2022 1:34am
6/21/2022 1:34am
If it’s that important to Jeff, come over in ‘23 race the whole series. See who shows up
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crowe660 6/21/2022 2:27am
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Herlings said Everts and TC222’s championship seasons didn’t have a lot of competition. When’s the last time there was a full gate at MXGP?
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Motofinne 6/21/2022 2:32am
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crowe660 wrote:
Herlings said Everts and TC222’s championship seasons didn’t have a lot of competition. When’s the last time there was a full gate at MXGP?
Full gates means nothing when you have riders 15 or even 20 seconds off the pace per lap (gate fillers, just like the fly-away GP has) that AMA nationals can have brings nothing in a debate of which generation had more top competition.
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ayearinmx 6/21/2022 2:36am
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A lot of people seem to get confused between quantity and quality
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Chris_Buehler 6/21/2022 2:44am
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Joshracing wrote:
Hey guys, World championship.... if ET thinks he's the best, he's on the start line in MXGP, put it up to the big boys.
Haven't seen any interview with Eli saying he's the best anywhere and you won't. Maybe I'm wrong but I would bet Eli doesn't care about this at all.
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Richy 6/21/2022 3:07am
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Just watched a few of the segments on YouTube.

Herlings is fast as fuck, there's never any doubt about that, but I can't recall anyone in Motocross who's come across like such a prick with such consistency, so I guess at least he owns it? Is that good? It doesn't sound good... Whatever.

Makes you appreciate how grounded Tomac, Dunge, Gasjer, Cairolli and a load of the previous top guys were.
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fanger 6/21/2022 3:09am
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tek14 wrote:
Just love to see how butthurt everyone from Usa are about this.
Think the USA bros are happy, herrings did say he believes the AMA riders are currently faster
tommyjif 6/21/2022 3:43am
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JH stats on MXGP: Best GP result1st GP wins38 (57.6%) Race wins89 (51.1%) Podiums51 (77.3%) Points2,748pts Average points per GP42pts Total Grand Prix66 GPs Years2017 - 2021

Gajser: Best GP result1st GP wins35 (29.4%) Race wins90 (29.3%) Podiums81 (68.1%) Points4,605pts Average points per GP39pts Total Grand Prix119 GPs Years2016 - 2022

Cairoli: Best GP result1st GP wins70 (33.7%) Race wins183 (31.6%) Podiums137 (65.9%) Points8,114pts Average points per GP39pts Total Grand Prix208 GPs Years2007 - 2021

Everts: MXGP (Only in the last three years of his Career, possibly his best years ever): Best GP result1st GP wins29 (61.7%) Race wins54 (57.4%) Podiums42 (89.4%) Points2,116pts Average points per GP45pts Total Grand Prix47 GPs Years2004 - 2006


JH and Tim raced together for 6 Years in MXGP. JH rode about 50 percent of TG GPs.
If JH keeps crashing to keep a speed that is not in his confort zone it's on him, not on Tim. The numbers of Cairoli and Everts shall induce JH to dig a pit and hide himself after the amount of bul..hit he stated.

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hellion 6/21/2022 4:04am
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Just like James, Herlings had his time as FMOTP. Also just like James, it didn’t result in nearly the amount of titles it should have. Sad thing is, after a decade the ‘speed’ part starts to fade from memory but the record books don’t fade and they include names like Everts, RC, Dungey, Tomac, Gasjer, Cairoli etc. at the top of their lists.

I’d love to see Eli and JH battle, but it would be like catching lightning in a bottle. Eli’s beast mode speed comes out later in the moto (and not every moto) , and in a one on one match sprint he might never find that zone.
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Joey_Bridges 6/21/2022 4:09am
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What an ass.
He was going on and on about bagging on Vialle and others when they were younger and coming up in the ranks.

You don't hear any of the condescending bullshit from our guys, or the other foreign riders we're enjoying having in our sport here.
Roczen.
Ferrandis.
Musquin.
The Lawrence bros.
Hell, I don't even think of them as such.
They're here in America, IMO that makes them American motocross racers
They're all over here because this is where the good shit is.

The racing here is far better than the GP's at the moment.
You'll never see action over there like we've just seen this past weekend.
Or in the weeks to come.

He can keep his egotistical ass over there.
And as much as I like the Gypsy tales podcasts,
That was as pure a knobgobbling display by jase as I've ever seen from him.
Good thing they were in separate studios.

Tomac has more class, and respect for his competitors, than herlings.
That's a true champion.

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wolf18 6/21/2022 4:34am
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He lost me at taking a stab at rv2.
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KONG 6/21/2022 5:47am
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Jeffrey is sooooo boooooooooored.
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McG194 6/21/2022 6:17am
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McG194 wrote:
I just watched the YouTube video with him talking about racing Eli. In my opinion he comes off as a complete jackass. Of course, he wants...
I just watched the YouTube video with him talking about racing Eli.

In my opinion he comes off as a complete jackass. Of course, he wants to race Eli on a hammered Lommel track. Nothing like cherry picking what suits your abilities the best. How about 3 races? One at Lommel one at an outdoor American track and one supercross track.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
So you want to give Eli 2x shots at it, but Herlings just 1? How about a 4th Moto around Hawkstone park in February? Who would...
So you want to give Eli 2x shots at it, but Herlings just 1?

How about a 4th Moto around Hawkstone park in February? Who would bag that one?

You see, this could go on & on forever.
Yes I do, it is the fair way. The 3 biggest forms of moto in the world are SX, 450 MXGP and AMA 450. To find out the best race all three.

The point is moot, the 1 on 1 is a silly idea and will never happen.
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McG194 6/21/2022 6:18am
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USA wrote:
Can anyone quote what Herlings said that caused an uproar? Context clues from this thread indicate that Herlings boasted about a 1-on-1 between him and Tomac...
Can anyone quote what Herlings said that caused an uproar? Context clues from this thread indicate that Herlings boasted about a 1-on-1 between him and Tomac and that Herlings would even put 100k (euros?) Up for the pot himself.

Meanwhile, Tomac is 20 races into his own racing season while Herlings does a YouTube interview.
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