Barcia and his dirty riding. AMA will do nothing!

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gregyou 3/20/2022 7:24am
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flarider wrote:


Difference being they don’t cry like a bitch when they get it in return
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quadzrulebro 3/20/2022 8:00am
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I’m an Anderson fan, but there was nothing wrong with that perfectly executed block pass. He didn’t run his front tire into Jason. Jason had the option of checking up or going wide. He incorrectly assumed he would pass the point of impact before Justin got there.
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Some of you never watched the 1990 Supercross season and it shows.

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davis224 wrote:
Just noticed on the replay, Bogle looked long and hard at it.
I saw that too. I’ll bet you money he said “yep I’ve been there” to himself.

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Everyone in the sport loves the LCQ's because anything goes but when a rider repeatedly gets aggressive for the lead (or any other position) in the main event they are labeled dirty. It's a joke and completely hypocritical. It's either ok or not. One lined sections require aggresive passes and there are many section's that are one lined. What happened in this corner (a 180 that turns onto the start straight) has occurred a lot, who else has been fined and docked for this situation? We can all agree that Barcia and Anderson have earned their reputations, so why do riders CONTINUALLY leave the door open for them? The whole world seems to think that we are owed something for nothing. No rider should to allow another rider to go around them simply because they are faster and they certainly don't need to allow someone to go to the outside and not make an attempt to pass them back for the lead. No, they didn't make contact because someone cut down, they made contact because the rider in front left the door open and created an opportunity. If Barcia, Anderson or anyone else doesn't take that opportunity then they aren't doing their job. If Barcia had won, the AMA wouldn't have docked him or fined him because "it was for the win". If the AMA doesn't like it then why don't they extended the tough blocks further into the corner? If this isn't the type of riding that is acceptable, then why didn't they dock Hardy Munoz for hitting Nicoletti multiple times to get into the main event? Most will say it's ok because it's for the last spot into the main. I see it as an opportunity to win the most valued race in supercross, a 450 main event.
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Do you watch every race with your husband or just by yourself?
You told him🤦‍♂️ Your momma must be proud…
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Frank Tuesday 3/20/2022 9:04am
3/20/2022 9:04am
The primary goal of most top riders is to win races and titles. But it seems Barcia's biggest goal is to live up to his nickname. He wants to be BamBam more than he wants to win.
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flarider 3/20/2022 9:06am
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If that was illegal, what is legal?

No touching?
Touching ok unless other rider crashes?

What about the last turn of a one point championship, still no touch?

What's the proposed new rule on touching another rider?
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str8line 3/20/2022 9:07am
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Yo Jason, have you seen him yet?[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/20/539092/s1200_6A323686_4CD7_4761_953B_DAFDBE2E1567.jpg[/img]
Yo Jason, have you seen him yet?
Marcia can't control himself. 3 point deduction could hurt him down the line. Definitely hurt El Hombre.
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NorCalRedRyder 3/20/2022 9:12am
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flarider wrote:


gregyou wrote:
Difference being they don’t cry like a bitch when they get it in return
I don't know about that DV was known to throw some wicked helmet slaps after a crash.😂😂😂
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fellow addict wrote:
Yo Jason, have you seen him yet?[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/20/539092/s1200_6A323686_4CD7_4761_953B_DAFDBE2E1567.jpg[/img]
Yo Jason, have you seen him yet?
If I’m on the outside and a guy is that far away on the way inside and taking my line away, at some point it it becomes more of my fault if we make contact. That way inside line was used this same way countless times last night without riders going down.
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motomike137 3/20/2022 9:58am
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caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Nothing wrong with what he did . You must not be a fan from the early 2000s RC Stewart and reed were riding like that all...
Nothing wrong with what he did . You must not be a fan from the early 2000s RC Stewart and reed were riding like that all the time . Nothing wrong with block passing or parking someone for the lead.
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Block pass? I hope you are kidding. He literally cut the corner and put is bike directly in front of Anderson already exiting the corner.
Just like we see happen week after week after week in this series. Most consider it part of the show. I think there is a point where it is ridiculous but I don't know how you police it without ruining the racing. I've seen some of my favorite guys get this done to them many times over the years and most of the hard core racers will tell you that #1 you need to know who it is you just passed, #2 you better protect rather than go wide with your back to them when you know darned well they will strike back. It's just like the "he turned down on me" story when this happens mid corner. If your competitor can stick his bike in your line even a split second before you pivot it doesn't matter if your leading or that they are literally 90 degrees to the track direction at that point.
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Roczoff 3/20/2022 10:11am
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Without this, we'd have little to talk about. Nobody got hurt, and no championship hopes were ruined.

Thank you, Bam-Bam, and Ando. Good show.

It's entertainment. Don't forget to be entertained.

A whole gate of Dungeys wouldn't be nearly as much fun.
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early 3/20/2022 10:29am
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ? In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to...
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ?

In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to succeed round the corner". It looks like he intends to park his bike in the way of Jason. If Barcia was 'attempting to succeed' his bike would be pointing in the direction of the racing line.





Ace Dudemeister wrote:
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance. In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and...
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance.

In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and his bike is pointed down the track.

It comes down to what I am always telling my kids, keep your head up.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
If you asked 100 riders to do 20 laps to build picture of what is considered 'normal', not one of them would choose the line Barcia...
If you asked 100 riders to do 20 laps to build picture of what is considered 'normal', not one of them would choose the line Barcia has chosen there.

Barcia knew what he was doing to cut Jason off.

You say Jason could've kept his head up to see in advance- lets say he done that and diverted LEFT- Barcia would've simply also stayed on the same trajectory and the same thing would've happened. Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more, Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more- It was a no win situation for Jason with Barcia in that 'park him' mindset.
Tell that to Cameron Mcadoo who took the inside line when he knew he had Lawrence on his ass. Barcia and Anderson should watch last night's 250 main to learn some racecraft.


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Ace Dudemeister wrote:
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance. In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and...
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance.

In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and his bike is pointed down the track.

It comes down to what I am always telling my kids, keep your head up.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
If you asked 100 riders to do 20 laps to build picture of what is considered 'normal', not one of them would choose the line Barcia...
If you asked 100 riders to do 20 laps to build picture of what is considered 'normal', not one of them would choose the line Barcia has chosen there.

Barcia knew what he was doing to cut Jason off.

You say Jason could've kept his head up to see in advance- lets say he done that and diverted LEFT- Barcia would've simply also stayed on the same trajectory and the same thing would've happened. Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more, Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more- It was a no win situation for Jason with Barcia in that 'park him' mindset.
early wrote:
Tell that to Cameron Mcadoo who took the inside line when he knew he had Lawrence on his ass. Barcia and Anderson should watch last night's...
Tell that to Cameron Mcadoo who took the inside line when he knew he had Lawrence on his ass. Barcia and Anderson should watch last night's 250 main to learn some racecraft.


Which is exactly what Jason should have done rather than leave the barn door wide open for a guy nicknamed BAM BAM lol.
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fellow addict 3/20/2022 11:01am
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OMG! They’re not all taking the same line!
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fellow addict 3/20/2022 11:03am
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OMG! They touched! Penalty!
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fellow addict 3/20/2022 11:12am
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Had less room and avoided the same damn thing. What got Barcia on probation was justified, this penalty and fine was NOT.










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BigBoreFan58 wrote:
That was all on Anderson, Anderson turned down too early, Drove right into BamBam. BamBam is lucky he stayed up.
Huh?

I think you might want to go watch that...again...
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olds cool 3/20/2022 11:43am
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Falta vs Moisseev (and the whole CCCP) should be the debarkation line for penalties and fines. Anything less should be considered just hard racing.

If you think you have to penalize everybody for every questionable pass, then make it to where you can only pass on the straights. Makes it easy to enforce and ruins the sport at the same time...Angry
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olds cool wrote:
Falta vs Moisseev (and the whole CCCP) should be the debarkation line for penalties and fines. Anything less should be considered just hard racing. If you...
Falta vs Moisseev (and the whole CCCP) should be the debarkation line for penalties and fines. Anything less should be considered just hard racing.

If you think you have to penalize everybody for every questionable pass, then make it to where you can only pass on the straights. Makes it easy to enforce and ruins the sport at the same time...Angry
Push to pass button?
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Ozy 3/20/2022 2:13pm
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Had a thought and wonder what you guys say - entering the turn where they collided, Jason was going full race speed and using the berm to maintain race speed. Justin chose to slow way down to cut the corner (Justin probably going 2-3 MPH when they collided) IF Jason had managed to avoid contact with Justin, how many seconds would Justin have lost to Jason - I'm guessing 3 or 4 seconds minimum

Cutting a corner and basically stopping in front of a rider is technically not a block pass.
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flarider 3/20/2022 2:27pm
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He was within the space of the track.

No rule on apex of a corner use that I'm aware of
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str8line 3/20/2022 2:34pm
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fellow addict wrote:
Yo Jason, have you seen him yet?[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/20/539092/s1200_6A323686_4CD7_4761_953B_DAFDBE2E1567.jpg[/img]
Yo Jason, have you seen him yet?
mxpro252 wrote:
If I’m on the outside and a guy is that far away on the way inside and taking my line away, at some point it it...
If I’m on the outside and a guy is that far away on the way inside and taking my line away, at some point it it becomes more of my fault if we make contact. That way inside line was used this same way countless times last night without riders going down.
Yeah and you would come out of that turn at a snails pace compared to Anderson. If Barcia wants to throw himself in front of or into a rider there isn't much they can do.
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str8line 3/20/2022 2:47pm
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Watch from 10 seconds.

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flarider wrote:
He was within the space of the track.

No rule on apex of a corner use that I'm aware of
Tell that to the dudes who say Malcolm ‘turned down’.
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Wiff3 3/20/2022 3:01pm
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Finally got to watch the race.

Was it a nice thing for Barcia to do? No, but they aren't there to be nice to each other.

Was it a blatant dirty move? No, he had the inside line and Anderson should have checked up or went inside.

Did it suck for Anderson? Yes, but he's done the same and worse to anyone and everyone in front of him, so he shouldn't be upset about it.

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What's the purpose of a motorcycle race? I believe the original intent and spirit of motocross/supercross racing was for the fastest and most skilled rider to be rewarded and named champion. The word "Racecraft" is a relatively new term and some feel is misused in attempts to justify poor sportsmanship?

Where did the term good sportsmanship come from? We have all heard past champions praise good clean racing and mention they feel safe racing against "X" because they never do anything to endanger them

IF motocross/supercross is devolving into win at any cost then what's to stop Jason Anderson from lifting his front wheel and pinning the throttle the next time Justin attempts a "Block Pass?" Some fans would love this but most would tune out and the series would end up losing it's sponsors.

The guys who run the series and race teams do check in here once in a while to take the pulse of the fans, but they also know that Motoboards have very extreme opinions and don't give us that much weight

How many premiere class championships does Justin Have?
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