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There are a ton of sharp people on here that I know of,but on the other hand I have to remind myself that it IS a Moto board, not a MENSA discussion board.”
I didn’t say any of the things that you are attempting to attribute to me.
You are more than free to believe the things that you do, I’m not making fun of you for it in any way but your defensiveness is obviously troubling.
The things that you’ve read and heard reach your bar of proof it sounds like. They don’t meet mine. Not sure why that sets you off enough to try to insert straw man arguments about my views.
But it does frustrate me (not defensive at all) when people that watch an hour of "searching for Aliens" on the Travel channel , feel that they have become experts in the subject. Obviously I'm exaggerating, but it takes more than a book or two and watching a controlled TV show to learn about most of the actual facts and evidence that have been uncovered the past 50 years or so. There is so much that its mind boggling.
I'm not trying to change anyone's belief of anything---all I'm trying to do is convince some of you to do the research (if you're truly interested ) on your own and come to your own conclusions. That's why I mention some the people that I did. Its a great starting point. Where you go from there is all up to you
I was very keen on the “Navy sightings” that came out over the last few years and dug in deep. Reading through the details, There were fishing vessels in the area that had advanced drone capabilities and drones that were able to fly in “formation.” Those fisherman (documented foreigners) said they didn’t fly them, so the investigation believed them and moved on? What the hell were they doing on a fishing boat?
Well that seems like a more logical explanation than aliens were playing with us.
I want to believe Lazar, but damned give me something other than your testimony.
I hope in these days of high end iPhones and cameras recording everywhere we get something more concrete. It would be an amazing step for mankind to interact with beings not from this planet. Our tech and understanding would increase exponentially, hopefully resolving many of the issues that have plagued mankind on this planet.
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But Navy pilots aren’t very good at identifying flying objects in our skies. Probably was the old weather balloon or ball lightning, those things fake those guys out all the time!!!
The Pentagon already admitted in their June press release that the phenomenon is real. Now it’s time to find out who,what ,why and where they come from.
If it’s one of our adversaries ( China, Russia,N Korea) that’s almost as terrifying as if it’s non-terrestrial. Although,they pretty much ruled that out since they haven’t used it against us yet.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/military/story/2021-05-29/navy-ufo-videos-skeptics?_amp=true
I’m in agreement they are out there, I just think when and if they come and make themselves known it will be under different circumstances than we have seen thus far.
This subject is almost as polarizing as religion, politics, and Covid, It may be soon that the ET/UAP subject will be banned from discussion too !!!
btw, did you ever get a new bike ?
But your obsession is becoming more and more flattering all the time!
Come back to me when you are able to read and comprehend all the reports that I have, and talked DIRECTLY to people that are in this a lot deeper than we are.
I'm not even sure why there's even a debate at this point--- even the Pentagon (in their milque-toast report) admitted that these things are real and possibly pose a threat. What part of that are you missing ??
Elizondo summed it up this way-- there are three options of what these UAP's are-- 1) Our own Black Ops (hardly possible due to how long they've been reported) 2) Foreign Militaries (BIG trouble if so--but again highly unlikely due to the fact that if they had this capability, they would be using it against us by now. and 3.) coming from somewhere else---
The big and only question that needs answered is what is the who/what/why/how of # 3
Thats not my opinion--thats a fact stated by the Pentagon. They are taking this so seriously that the Gillibrand amendment was just signed into law ( with Bi-partisan approval) enabling the new dept ASRO (Anomaly Surveillance Research Office) to become a reality and work hand in hand with the DoD and all other intelligence depts to get answers to what these things are (like they don't know already,lol)
Btw--Gillibrand is an Attorney who has been a US Senator from New York for over 10 years
I’m not sure why you are having such a difficult time being civil, I’ve certainly not said anything disparaging about you or what you believe. However, for someone who has claimed to not be interested in changing people’s minds you do seem to get easily upset when people don’t share your beliefs.
Again, you are free to form your beliefs based upon the evidence that you’ve encountered, same as everyone else. The evidence that I’ve encountered isn’t solid enough for me to be certain of alien encounters, though.
I truly don’t understand why this would be so upsetting to you.
Have a better day!
Also --- frankly it DOES "ruffle" me a bit when people have the "i won't believe until they land on the White House lawn " attitude -- so yeah, you may have me there --only because they just aren't looking for any other evidence other than in the event that an Alien rang their door bell and pissed on their shoe. (thats from an old Lewis Black bit---funny MF'er)
And again-- to make my position even clearer--- These things may NOT be flesh and blood biological entities from another planet, the other possibilities are even crazier (imo) , portals opening from another dimension, parallel universes, time slips, time travelers ,etc . I'll be first to admit that I'm not sharp enough to understand how those other possibilities ARE even possibilities. Thats for the guys that have a shitload of initals prior to ,or after their name to figure out
Don’t feed the trolls, you’ll lose your mind !
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Yeah ,I realize that I get a little worked up with boneheads that have their heads stuck in the sand —- but thanks for reminding me lol.
Good luck with your projects —. If ever looking for any parts that are eluding you, feel free to shoot me a text
1. This is the same crap that I saw back in the 70s
2. The gov is doing this as an excuse for more money
3. I've never seen anything odd in the sky, but the mass sightings (like the Phoenix lights) have credibility with me
My personal theory- ufos exist, but are either man made, or are left over higher tech from a previous epoch kept only in the hands of the elite
You love to argue with everyone on everything.
Why did you ignore these simple questions?
"Which is a true statement I do know one thing and let's see if you can argue about this and prove me wrong that there is not one person on here that has argued with more people about more subjects than you.
You clearly are in the number 1 spot in this category do you agree with that yes or no?
I also asked you if you saw the documentary yes or no would be a good response."
Your questions are not worth answering, they aren’t even adult in nature.
I will, however, say that I did watch the ‘documentary’ and found it to be entertaining, but lacking in proof of anything. Especially the alleged Zimbabwe school incident.
So here’s a question, why would you claim that the children were questioned individually the very next day when every documentation of the alleged incident contradicts that? It is very well established that about 2 months elapsed between the alleged incident and the children being questioned individually, which is a huge amount of time to align things.
When you can’t get even the most basic facts of a story correct, it really hurts the probability of people believing in what you are preaching…..
But just in case you missed it ,the Pentagon admitted back in June that the phenomenon is real and they have 2 new departments to study the where/what and who.
First and foremost, this is a MOTOCROSS/MOTORCYCLE forum and that is why 95% of us came here in the first place—our LOVE of Motorcycles and the stories/pictures we share from the Past or Current.
I don’t think I would be going out on a limb by saying we did not come on here to share a story or a BELIEF/OPINION (M/C related or not) only to be told “You are wrong” in a long-winded diatribe talked down to in a condescending way.
Are you like this with your friends if you have any that you are always correcting?
You are an admitted “Fat and Out-of-Shape” dude (Your words) and I cannot remember in the 20 or so years I have known you to share a personal riding story let alone a picture.
You get your excitement from attempting to prove people wrong every chance you get. I find that rather odd and like I’ve said many times you belong on a DEBATE FORUM (not a MOTOCROSS forum) where you can ARGUE with other NERDS like yourself till the Cows come home over stupid BS that nobody cares about.
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