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And as moto kiwi suggested, they may be here constantly without us even recognizing that they are a life form.
This shit can get deep real quick, and most questions aren’t answered definitively and just lead to more questions.
All that being said, everything that I’m being led to believe from the people that I feel certain HAVE some of the answers is that we will have nearly full disclosure in the next 5-10 years. The Press release from the Pentagon this past June was a bit disappointing, but also was somewhat expected. But that was just step 1 of this supposed “Full Disclosure “plan.
I suppose we’ll see how it pans out.
Over the years I’ve been lucky enough to be able to sit down with several of the well known researchers/ authors/ former military experiencers. A lot of these guys that I’m going to mention may be known to some of you that have been interested in this subject. I’ll give you a list of the people first and then explain how/what/when.
Dr Stanton Friedman- CanadIan born Nuclear physicist
Nick Pope- former UK Ministry of Defence official
Richard Dolan - reknowned Author
Colonel Charles Halt— former USAF Colonel involved with the Rendlesham Forest incident
Sgt Jim Pennington —- former USAF Sgt involve with Halt and the Rendlesham case
Travis Walton— well known abductee
And several other not as well known researchers.
The 6 I’ve listed all have been interviewed a hundred times,and what they discuss openly is amazing enough, but when it’s “off the record “ in a very casual dinner and drinks atmosphere is when the info gets a good deal more detailed . Each one of those guys have told me that the TV producers definitely restrict how much info they will release in any given episode.
Each one of these people I’ve had personal,semi private dinners (3,4 sometimes 5 people) on multiple occasions. It’s actually easier than it sounds. Each of these gentlemen attend seminars/lectures to speak at and typically stay at the hotel they’re speaking at or nearby. After the lecture,there’s sometimes a VIP “meet and greet”. Obviously I buy my way in and during conversation I invite the subject to dinner and drinks after they wrap signing autographs etc.More often than not they’re cool with it. Keep in mind,that I’m very good at my chosen profession and can be very convincing in a very non-threatening and likable manner. Also at times these seminars have actual after lecture dinners for a few bucks extra. In those cases ,I’ll do the dinner thing and do the invite to the hotel bar for after dinner drinks. I’ve been about 75% successful. The easy part is after the first time, the guy will remember you and the next time you see him it’s a given. Believe me that when you spend 2-3-4 hours bullshitting with a guy over drinks, you can get a LOT more info then what you see in televised interviews, you become friends and exchange emails etc.
I can give a little info ,but I won’t say which one stated it- but I was told 2 and half years ago about the plan for the Pentagon to release select files and info this past June . I was told that by one guy in late 2018 and another confirmed it mid 2019. There are a TON more videos than the ones that were “ leaked” . I truly believe that this Covid pandemic somewhat derailed this disclosure movement
Richard Dolan and Dr Friedman are both brilliant dudes, and are actually really nice guys too. Unfortunately Dr Friedman passed away in the spring of 2019 just a few months after I had last talked to him. He was lecturing worldwide even though he was in his mid 80’s. Actually died in the Toronto airport heading home from a conference. One odd thing about Stanton was that he didn’t like Bob Lazar at all and felt he was completely full of shit. Not really sure why he felt that way. I believe Lazar ,so we definitely differed on that. Nick pope is a small spindly guy,soft spoken, still seems to be guarded in his comments (even off the record). Probably from his high level government training.
Halt and Penniston I spoke to several years apart, but their details of the incident were exactly the same. Halt was cool but a little guarded as well, Penniston was loose and cool.
Travis Walton is definitely a trip. Even though this guy has spoken thousands of times about his experience, you can really tell in a private setting that whatever happened to him was real and has had an incredible effect on his life— as you might expect.
There’s more, but I’m getting yapped at because “ we need to get going” to our daughters house…..even though it’s 1,100 feet away,lol.
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Why would the TV producers restrict the information they put out? That makes no sense to me. If you can get an exclusive with someone and they start divulging new information, that would be great for the TV station's ratings.
Unless of course it's the higher ups at the Pentagon controlling things. Not much you can do if they say it's a no go.
Would be cool to see more videos and get information as to what they really are.
And remember 1996’s film INDEPENDENCE DAY? It’s well known that the US military offered to assist the Producers and supply official vehicles and equipment until they read the script and it referred to Area51. When Emmerich refused to eliminate all references to Area 51 , they pulled out entirely. Back in 96, the US Govt still hadn’t confirmed that there WAS an Area 51 . There’s definitely interference when trying to disseminate info on Classified subjects, and UFO’s, UAP’s , Aliens, non-terrestrials,etc etc definitely fall into that category.
Surely you’ve heard of Travis Walton. He was the logger from Arizona that was abducted/disappeared directly in front of 5 of his co workers back in the mid 70’s. Many books have been written on his story and even a mainstream film “ Fire in the Sky” documented his story.
I've also been a believer of Travis Walton and his abduction in the Arizona White Mountains in Show Low.
Fire in the Sky is a great movie for those who have never watched it and are curious about UFO'S and abductions.
I've watched quite a few interviews with him and just like Lazar coming forward and telling their stories did NOTHING to upgrade their lives--if anything it jacked them up and gave them no privacy as people mocked them but the story NEVER changed.
Feel bad for the guy.
You do know every year they have UFO/Abduction conference's?
Pro he’s a stand up dude so
This weighs heavy with me. Merry Christmas vital
At around the 111 minute mark this guy describes his UFO sighting exactly to the one Jan and I witnessed in broad daylight.
https://youtu.be/sm6AL5lA4Zc
In this one they talk about the Phoenix Lights and all the witnesses including Governor Fife Symingnton and he admitted what he saw.
His political career was in jeopardy and then he backpedaled on it in a press conference as he was about to go on trial for loan fraud in the millions and my belief and others is he made a deal.
https://youtu.be/64s8ujoydRM
Maybe this entire UAP/ET subject has been a huge False Flag operation perpetrated by the Govt the past 50 years for something even bigger coming ,lol?? Richard Dolan explored that theory and others in one of his books.
However, based on the knowledge that I've had the opportunity to obtain from those guys I mentioned above ,I'm really feel (and hoping) that it keeps progressing
One other thing-- I watched "Don't Look Up" on Netflix over the Holidays, and I couldn't help but believe that full disclosure might be addressed in the same manner that the comet was in the movie,lol. The general publics attention span and mainstream Media's coverage and reputation may make it just another Ho-Hum news week , lmao
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And again--This is important----it may NOT be "alien beings" as in flesh and blood biological creatures, it may be an advanced form of AI. "They" also may not even be from another planet---they could be interdimensional beings ,etc etc.
But to have this much evidence that dates as far back as recorded history allows, certainly should be enough to convince you that ,in some form or another , we are not alone.
The people who quote the ridiculous old line of " I won't believe until they land on the Whitehouse lawn" is so sad that it doesn't even make me laugh anymore. Even if that DID happen ,those same people would accuse it of being special effects hologram or some shit ,LMAO.
A very wise old friend of mine (RIP Joe D) would state the following phrase describing people that would refuse to have an open mind and follow the facts. " They know not, that they know not"
I'm not here to teach you ,Grasshopper-- do the reading and research that I have and we can discuss this once you garner the info that I have. Its not hard to find some compelling evidence
Anyway, I can not and will not try to change the mind of a skeptic in 5 minutes worth of dialogue on a Moto board. I have years and years and years of my own research . That included reading (a lot) watching, learning and a tremendous amount of DIRECT talk with some of the best minds on the subject. But even with being said ,and myself being a very influential type of personality, I realize that I'm not going to convince you that what I know to be true ,is actually true. That will be 100% up to you .
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what my opinion or your opinion is of the subject. But at least I know that mine is based on more than just a handful of books and a half dozen Documentaries on the History channel.
I'm sure you're a good guy , and possibly even a smart dude, and everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but if you are truly interested in the subject, I really implore you to do what I did and get immersed in all the information that is available. That is all......carry on
I think that the vast majority of us have seen things that we can’t identify or doesn’t make sense to us. That’s not really controversial, I don’t think. Nor is it surprising, as these two planes were first flown less than 80 years apart. That’s not much different than a single lifetime.
But then identifying/explaining it as alien without proof is a completely different issue altogether. And it generally hurts our chances of believing most ‘explanations’ that people have, especially those without demonstrable, tangible evidence.
Again, I ‘feel’ that there is almost certainly other life somewhere out there in our vast universe. I also believe that there is at least a possibility of one or more of those life forms visiting our own planet either currently or in the past. But I’ve never seen conclusive evidence of it actually occurring, despite my willingness to believe if the evidence I’m presented with being strong and unimpeachable.
Growing up on a farm, there were plenty of times that we were up all night either doing frost control, spraying to avoid the heat, etc. I used to love listening to the Coast to Coast stuff with Art Bell and those types of shows, but it was apparent at a young age that he was peddling bullshit and was merely entertaining for anyone who remotely put the claims made up to any discernment.
Again, no disagreement that people believe that they’ve seen something that they can’t explain. No disagreement that some of those people then DO try to explain it as alien, non-human, etc. No disagreement that they are convinced that there explanations/identifications are 100% correct.
But also haven’t seen any tangible, verifiable evidence of any of these being alien craft or aliens. That’s why getting the details of things like the alleged Zimbabwe school event are important. Putting out disinformation about it, like the notion that all the children were individually questioned the very next day and that they all said the exact same thing, makes it harder to believe other claims without overwhelming evidence.
Not sure if people in this thread saw the above news article about NASA engaging theologians to comment on how humans would react to been told of alien life?
Apparently not enough because you and others have been looking into things for your entire lives and still have not come up with any scientific evidence at all . Zero . Nada . Zip . Sweet fuck all …
Belief without evidence is blind faith … which is fine … but don’t try to bullshit me that you have anything more than that …. Grasshopper .
Apl--- Are you serious that you think that this phenomenon is JUST about lights and unknowns in the sky that non-eductaed rednecks are seeing in the sky after a bender ??? Honestly, some of you are SO far behind in what's going on that its truly baffling.
There are a ton of sharp people on here that I know of,but on the other hand I have to remind myself that it IS a Moto board, not a MENSA discussion board.
Theres just SO much legitimate information/evidence available that its impossible to display it here.
If you're interested in learning more, start with those guys I've mentioned. It'll take you to multiple heads-of-state that have come forward, more and more retired military officials are talking, the list goes on and on and on. Its all very fascinating....time consuming, but fascinating .
If you're not interested well then that's your perogative as well.
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