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I read this stuff too often when I can't actually get away with listening to audio on my phone, dammit!
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I dont believe there has...
also count me in on the "we are not alone" talk. i don't doubt it for one second that there is other life out there.
if you've ever read Graham Hancock, you'll have an idea where my ideas lie.
It is interesting that he released his last film, "Eyes Wide Shut," on the anniversary of the moon launch. He never saw his final movie go public because he died in his sleep a few days later after a private showing. There are also theories that he put hints into "The Shining" like the rocket on Danny's shirt. It's fascinating stuff, for sure. He was known for fanatical details in his sets etc. down to the time shown on clocks. The theory is that "Eyes Wide Shut" is a coded story of the secret global elite.
I remain on the fence though with this stuff.
I have no clue if he's being truthful or being taken for a ride like Paul Bennewitz was.
The possibilities are endless.
Tom's story is interesting.
He claims one piece of information relayed/told to him was we found another life form during the cold war.
He claims Roswell was the Germans operating out of Argentina.
https://youtu.be/5n_3mnJfHzY
One of the old interviews he refers to in that interview above is this one here in mp3 format.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ltspth5lxlbbcbx/AAAnqLdfW5IpIExodClPlujHa?dl…
Lot's of other stuff on youtube he's done in regards to interviews.
Space may be the final frontier
But it's made in a Hollywood basement
Cobain can you hear the spheres
Singing songs off station to station
And Alderaan's not far away
It's Californication
The moon was a show of power by the US. We won the race. You don't do continue to do laps around the track for the hell of it. Public support of the program declined. Estimates in today's dollars put the total Apollo program investment around $130 BILLION dollars!
In 1967 NASA's budget was the highest it's ever been as a percentage of the Federal Budget - 4.41%. It went down hill after that significantly. Within 10 years it was down to 0.98%. Not a lot to continue to build moon bases with.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA)
Someone already linked the the NDT versus Joe Rogan episode where it was discussed - too many people were involved for a hoax to have gone on as long as it did. People are going to think what they want though.
Regarding Aliens - anything is possible. But we also spend $600 Billion + on defense YEARLY. They had the SR-71 in the 60's! What does another 50 years of tech ramp up result in? You're telling me you don't think the best scientists with almost unlimited backing can come up with some shit that seems 'other worldly'??
The above, coupled with the staggering distances that are space, leaves me thinking the likelier explanation is something closer to home.
That said, would it be cool?? Yes.
Maybe the recent progress made by the commercial space industry and other upcoming world superpowers focus on space means it's short time before we begin seeing UFO's regularly and the gov is leeching out info now to try and get ahead of this. I'd love to be proven wrong about it not being a vessel from another planet.
All of our technology, you'd think by now it would be like the Bubba Scrub. Everyone's doing it.
The only thing I believe is the Space Shuttle, because coincidentally, I saw one blow to bits on takeoff, and saw one breaking apart into pieces streaking across the sky with my Own eyes when they said people could see it coming in that morning.
Whether anyone is actually on those things? I dunno.
People think Area 51 has UFOs. LOL. Anything in the air you dont know what it is is a UFO.
They just fly stuff around at night and hope no one gets a good view. Unfortunately with the lenses people have now, and good telescopes, Nobody out there looking down on Area 51 has ever seen anything really.
The moon is 200,000 miles past that! That's a long ass way.
I don't know that we cant.
However,I don't know what the benefit would be to return to the moon(if we did indeed really go). Other than a look at me sorta ordeal,like they claim the Apollo missions were.
These days they seem to be spending money on sending unmanned stuff to explore 33.9 million miles away.
Mars Exploration Rover Mission is what I'm referring to. That was 6 billion dollars and who really knows if its real?
I guess looking for life or habitat to support life is more important in this day & age to the people involved in coming up with the projects.
I also do know numbers have been kicked around about a cost to send a manned craft to Mars.
Around $160 billion for an 18 month mission. 30 billion I believe just to get them there alive.
So that would tell me that the idea is being kicked around by someone possibly... if they've got accurate numbers.
But who knows...probably could be faked easily - just as people say the moon visit was.
The S4 installation (15 miles from Area 51) was supposedly where they had recovered craft that they wanted back engineered.
Supposedly the coordinates of Area S4 are N 37° 01' 40", W 115° 46' 35" .
The latest facility is supposedly in Dugway Utah,it's being called Area 52 by researchers.
White Sands was another facility being put out there as being up to some strange things regarding UFO's.
I just don't see how anything flies out of Patterson, because it's in the middle of a city, in the middle of the US. It is interesting if you look on a map and see how Plant 42, Edwards, 51 and Dugway are lined up. It makes me think that our secret testing is done somewhere along that line of bases. Another clue is the number of sonic booms heard on the coast near LA/OC where, I assume, the planes are accelerating/decelerating over the ocean along their test loop.
Pit Row
Also, if you know where the low level training routes are, you can see a few hundred passes per day. Some days None. Hundred of people go out daily, and lots of photogs with big lenses, you can look right down into the cockpits when they go past in the canyons.
The real treat is when you see some CAG planes come through all fancy looking.
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