Is this really a thing??? (mandatory COVID vax for pro racers)

9/2/2021 4:18am
Nobody is talking about a government enforced mandate. You have the right to get vaccinated or not. No one is questioning that currently. Your employer also has a right to continue paying you or to replace you with someone they feel can perform the same job and not risk spreading illness to other employees and customers or increasing their company provided health care costs. If a venue requires a vaccination to enter and you are afraid of the vaccination, you have the freedom to go somewhere else.

If someone doesn’t like the rules in their workplace, it is their right to start a business and run it how they see fit. The USA is a great place. GL came from Africa and made millions racing motorcycles and has rolled that money into a successful business so he is able to do what he wants. He’s living the American dream.

Unfortunately I’m not a multi-millionaire, so I’m still bound by the rules of my employer. I might not love everything my company does, but I know that if I don’t tow the line, they have the right to replace me with someone who will. It’s a free country. Do what you feel is best for you and society as a whole as long as you are prepared to face the consequences of your actions. GL did, and I doubt he’s looking back.
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9/2/2021 4:22am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 4:23am
kawasa84 wrote:
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me...
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me that are vaccinated. The Pfizer vaccines I received last May are now FDA Approved. No different than taking an FDA approved prescription medicine from your doctor, which I know 100% of everyone on here has in there lifetime.
I choose to work 3rd shift because there is about 80% less people in the plant while I'm at work.
On my shift, there are only 10 of us in my department (including myself), and in a general proximity to me. I am the only one who chose to get vaccinated. Since August 1st, 3 of the of my coworkers have contracted Covid. One of my coworkers was hospitalized 9 days and died of Covid on August 22nd. He was 60 years old, with 4 grandchildren, a wonderful wife, (who also got Covid but survived) and 2 adult children. He was otherwise healthy, and had no underlying conditions. I have another coworker on my shift who has been hospitalized in ICU since August 14th, and is on a ventilator. His prognosis is day to day currently.
The 3rd was very sick, but is recovering and should be back to work after the Labor Day holiday.
I also lost a 46 year old cousin to Covid less than 3 months ago. He was a very healthy strong man.
This all has affected me greatly.
I will NEVER understand the bullshit politics that have influenced so many and the other unjustified reasons for remaining unvaccinated.
A few years ago, folks would say they couldn't do a 6th graders math, yet today they believe they're smarter than scientists, and doctors??
Those who won't get the FDA approved vaccine, are basically ruining the party for the rest of us.
While its mostly now killing voters on one side than the other, its still a human life.
You make many great points.
3 large hospitals here just released their latest Covid numbers. Union Hospital, Regional Hospital and IU Health Hospital.

91% of those in the hospital for Covid were unvaccinated.
100% of patients in ICU or on a ventilator were unvaccinated.

The vaccine doesn't keep you from getting Covid, it keeps you from dying from it.
But like anything in life, it's not 100%. No vaccine or medicine is.

I know this couple. Their daughter works at my brother's dealership.

https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/local/2021/08/28/man-who-p…
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Everyone has the right to do what they think is right for their health. My partner is a nurse and she's seen some ugly stuff from...
Everyone has the right to do what they think is right for their health.

My partner is a nurse and she's seen some ugly stuff from people who got the cure.
xrmark wrote:
My father just got the vaccine 2 weeks ago. His wife made him get it so she could “feel safe”. Come Saturday the guy is having...
My father just got the vaccine 2 weeks ago. His wife made him get it so she could “feel safe”. Come Saturday the guy is having seizures all night, has to be taken in an ambulance, on ventilator till today. Doctor said he got covid. His brother got it and was down for a month. I don’t blame a single person for not getting it.
FYI the antibodies take a few weeks to build up. Sorry about your dad
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kawasa84 wrote:
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me...
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me that are vaccinated. The Pfizer vaccines I received last May are now FDA Approved. No different than taking an FDA approved prescription medicine from your doctor, which I know 100% of everyone on here has in there lifetime.
I choose to work 3rd shift because there is about 80% less people in the plant while I'm at work.
On my shift, there are only 10 of us in my department (including myself), and in a general proximity to me. I am the only one who chose to get vaccinated. Since August 1st, 3 of the of my coworkers have contracted Covid. One of my coworkers was hospitalized 9 days and died of Covid on August 22nd. He was 60 years old, with 4 grandchildren, a wonderful wife, (who also got Covid but survived) and 2 adult children. He was otherwise healthy, and had no underlying conditions. I have another coworker on my shift who has been hospitalized in ICU since August 14th, and is on a ventilator. His prognosis is day to day currently.
The 3rd was very sick, but is recovering and should be back to work after the Labor Day holiday.
I also lost a 46 year old cousin to Covid less than 3 months ago. He was a very healthy strong man.
This all has affected me greatly.
I will NEVER understand the bullshit politics that have influenced so many and the other unjustified reasons for remaining unvaccinated.
A few years ago, folks would say they couldn't do a 6th graders math, yet today they believe they're smarter than scientists, and doctors??
Those who won't get the FDA approved vaccine, are basically ruining the party for the rest of us.
While its mostly now killing voters on one side than the other, its still a human life.
VRR7 wrote:
It is NOT FDA approved !
The FDA approved the the Pfizer vaccine Aug 23rd
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9/2/2021 4:54am
To the people calling others anti-vaxx because they don’t want this particular vaccine. I ask you this question, if someone who doesn’t like pork, does that make them vegetarian?
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9/2/2021 5:04am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 6:44am
JMX82 wrote:
Those bad side effects always tend to happens to friends neighbors relative living in distant place... Me, my parents, my brother, my coworkers and most of...
Those bad side effects always tend to happens to friends neighbors relative living in distant place...

Me, my parents, my brother, my coworkers and most of my friends have all been vaccinated twice without any permanent side effects. Only side effect they have encountered is mild fever. I myself had none.

Riding motocross is a lot bigger risk than taking couple of vaccine. Only complete p*ss* hasn't got courage to get vaccinated against COVID-19
Only a complete p#ssy would get it. I had covid. It was like a bad cold for me. I need to get vaccinated against a scary...
Only a complete p#ssy would get it. I had covid. It was like a bad cold for me. I need to get vaccinated against a scary cold? See how I can spin that the same way as you?
JMX82 wrote:
Good for you. Everyone is not that lucky including some VitalMX forum members who have passed due to COVID-19. My wife is pregnant and getting sick...
Good for you. Everyone is not that lucky including some VitalMX forum members who have passed due to COVID-19.

My wife is pregnant and getting sick with COVID-19 could cause serious damage to her and the baby. I'm not taking any chance infecting her...
I completely understand where you're coming from , but, your logic is a bit skewed.

Pretty evident that the covid vaccine will not prevent you from contracting or transmitting the Delta variant (and probably any new subsequent variant that comes to light). If you dont want to take any chances infecting her, you should avoid seeing her.

Its your choice and you can do as you see fit given your own situation
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9/2/2021 5:19am
What a bunch of privileged, self righteous whinging arseholes we’ve become. Society is becoming more pathetic by the day, our ancestors would be embarrassed.
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9/2/2021 5:23am
kawasa84 wrote:
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me...
I work in a large factory. (over 5000 people go through the gates everyday) Me being in TX, I'm in the minority of those around me that are vaccinated. The Pfizer vaccines I received last May are now FDA Approved. No different than taking an FDA approved prescription medicine from your doctor, which I know 100% of everyone on here has in there lifetime.
I choose to work 3rd shift because there is about 80% less people in the plant while I'm at work.
On my shift, there are only 10 of us in my department (including myself), and in a general proximity to me. I am the only one who chose to get vaccinated. Since August 1st, 3 of the of my coworkers have contracted Covid. One of my coworkers was hospitalized 9 days and died of Covid on August 22nd. He was 60 years old, with 4 grandchildren, a wonderful wife, (who also got Covid but survived) and 2 adult children. He was otherwise healthy, and had no underlying conditions. I have another coworker on my shift who has been hospitalized in ICU since August 14th, and is on a ventilator. His prognosis is day to day currently.
The 3rd was very sick, but is recovering and should be back to work after the Labor Day holiday.
I also lost a 46 year old cousin to Covid less than 3 months ago. He was a very healthy strong man.
This all has affected me greatly.
I will NEVER understand the bullshit politics that have influenced so many and the other unjustified reasons for remaining unvaccinated.
A few years ago, folks would say they couldn't do a 6th graders math, yet today they believe they're smarter than scientists, and doctors??
Those who won't get the FDA approved vaccine, are basically ruining the party for the rest of us.
While its mostly now killing voters on one side than the other, its still a human life.
FDA approval doesn't mean "guaranteed to not cause problems"


https://www.mdlinx.com/article/10-dangerous-drugs-recalled-by-the-fda/lfc-4008
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9/2/2021 5:26am
Can you guys take this shit to Facebook where it fucking belongs
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9/2/2021 5:27am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 5:33am
Mcflurry98 wrote:
85 years ago our grandfathers left to fight wars in the Pacific and in Europe while the women stayed here building tanks, planes, and bombs so...
85 years ago our grandfathers left to fight wars in the Pacific and in Europe while the women stayed here building tanks, planes, and bombs so that we could preserve our way of life here in the U.S, stop the spread of tyranny, and stop genocide. I'm sure that many of them didn't want to do it, but they felt a civic responsiblity to do so. Especially after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Fast forward 85 years and we are arguing over how we stop this virus and preserve our way of life. We all have a civic responsibility in this. Some don't feel comfortable with the vaccine and that's understandable. Maybe the contribution that those people make is just wearing a mask indoors and social distancing. That's fine.

None the less, we all have a responsibility to contribute in SOME sort of way. Nobody liked doing a group project in school when half of the group contributed nothing because it was inconvenient for them, but then still reaped the benefits of what the contributing group members did.
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it
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9/2/2021 5:28am
Curious how the top riders in the championship have been approaching this? I.E. Ferrandis, Roczen, Cooper, Lawrence. With a championship on the line, I'd either get the jab or be living in a bubble!
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9/2/2021 5:31am
Thats fine you wanted it you got it.

No one should be forced to do anything they don't want especially when it comes to health.
As a general principal living in a high functioning society means that sometimes you will have to do things for the greater good that may be...
As a general principal living in a high functioning society means that sometimes you will have to do things for the greater good that may be slightly inconvenient.
It's increasingly obvious that vaxx is very helpful, practically harmless though not magic and over time- years- the vast majority of people will get vaccinated and have the booster shots.
This is about a lot more than a “slight inconvenience.” If you can’t see the Pandora’s Box that is opened the second we allow government to force its citizens to take an injection, medication, etc in order to be free to travel, engage in commerce, and the like, I can’t help you.

I am dumbfounded by the number of people who are willing to discard civil liberty like yesterday’s trash, because it suits their beliefs. What happens when the regime opposes your beliefs and uses these things to force things upon you that you DON’T agree with?

For the record, I’ve been vaccinated. My choice for my reasons. But I also support anyone who doesn’t want to-their choice. I’m not sure why folks keep associating a belief against mandates with being against the vaccine itself. Two separate issues.
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Everyone has the right to do what they think is right for their health. My partner is a nurse and she's seen some ugly stuff from...
Everyone has the right to do what they think is right for their health.

My partner is a nurse and she's seen some ugly stuff from people who got the cure.
xrmark wrote:
My father just got the vaccine 2 weeks ago. His wife made him get it so she could “feel safe”. Come Saturday the guy is having...
My father just got the vaccine 2 weeks ago. His wife made him get it so she could “feel safe”. Come Saturday the guy is having seizures all night, has to be taken in an ambulance, on ventilator till today. Doctor said he got covid. His brother got it and was down for a month. I don’t blame a single person for not getting it.
jambalaya wrote:
FYI the antibodies take a few weeks to build up. Sorry about your dad
Right, he might've got COVID after getting the shot but he didn't get COVID from the shot
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Only a complete p#ssy would get it. I had covid. It was like a bad cold for me. I need to get vaccinated against a scary...
Only a complete p#ssy would get it. I had covid. It was like a bad cold for me. I need to get vaccinated against a scary cold? See how I can spin that the same way as you?
JMX82 wrote:
Good for you. Everyone is not that lucky including some VitalMX forum members who have passed due to COVID-19. My wife is pregnant and getting sick...
Good for you. Everyone is not that lucky including some VitalMX forum members who have passed due to COVID-19.

My wife is pregnant and getting sick with COVID-19 could cause serious damage to her and the baby. I'm not taking any chance infecting her...
dmm698 wrote:
I completely understand where you're coming from , but, your logic is a bit skewed. Pretty evident that the covid vaccine will not prevent you from...
I completely understand where you're coming from , but, your logic is a bit skewed.

Pretty evident that the covid vaccine will not prevent you from contracting or transmitting the Delta variant (and probably any new subsequent variant that comes to light). If you dont want to take any chances infecting her, you should avoid seeing her.

Its your choice and you can do as you see fit given your own situation
You can't be serious about staying away from my soon to in labour wife.

Change of getting sick trough two vaccine's is a lot smaller and my wife has had her first vaccine also which makes it even more effective
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9/2/2021 5:34am
It'll become a thing when the energy drink companies and other team sponsors decide they want teams' riders vaxxed.
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wydopen wrote:
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your...
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it
Shut up!
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9/2/2021 5:43am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 5:46am
Bonanza69 wrote:
Shut up!
Feel free to keep your head in the sand..when everything I said comes true over the next 5 years I’ll bump this thread for you if I’m still allowed to access the Internet.
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9/2/2021 5:43am
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You make many great points. 3 large hospitals here just released their latest Covid numbers. Union Hospital, Regional Hospital and IU Health Hospital. 91% of those...
You make many great points.
3 large hospitals here just released their latest Covid numbers. Union Hospital, Regional Hospital and IU Health Hospital.

91% of those in the hospital for Covid were unvaccinated.
100% of patients in ICU or on a ventilator were unvaccinated.

The vaccine doesn't keep you from getting Covid, it keeps you from dying from it.
But like anything in life, it's not 100%. No vaccine or medicine is.

I know this couple. Their daughter works at my brother's dealership.

https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/local/2021/08/28/man-who-p…
With J-mart?
9/2/2021 5:47am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 5:49am
I have a question for the Americans on here about insurances (im in Canada so this doesnt really apply to our ER and hospital services) If you deny the shot and are hospitalized later due to covid, will the insurance company still cover your stay? I've read about some folks being denied because the insurance company deemed the hospitalization preventable. Honest question, no ill intent. Just curious how many have looked into that.
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9/2/2021 5:51am
Another Covid thread waiting to be flushed🤦‍♂️
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9/2/2021 6:10am
Kawi15 wrote:
It is hard for me to realize that there are people in this world want to control others and their choices. Whatever happened to my body...
It is hard for me to realize that there are people in this world want to control others and their choices. Whatever happened to my body, my life, my choice? Freedom and Liberty? There is enough bullying, peer pressure, and even threats of job loss these days to drive a person mad. If anybody wants to inject an experimental substance into their body in which the producers and administrators have zero liability, neither use their product themselves go right on ahead. As for me, I make my own choices and I have the right to do so. Not to mention that what they approved is not what they are injecting into peoples bodies at the moment. They blew through many regulations to give it the rubber stamp. They do not approve normal vaccines this way. Such deceit and immorality these days. So many tyrants about. Don't look.... Don't ask just sign it...After all it's safe and effective.....
The same people saying it should be a choice are the same people trying to ban abortion. So everyone’s a hypocrite
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9/2/2021 6:12am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2021 6:13am
We need a "COVID" tab in the forum now. I swear that's all some of you guys want to argue about. Get the vaccine or don't, but shut the fuck up about it. You're a not changing anyone's mind with your opinion/choice on the matter.
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wydopen wrote:
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your...
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it
Holy shit that was a wild ride.
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9/2/2021 6:16am
Rushton597 wrote:
I have a question for the Americans on here about insurances (im in Canada so this doesnt really apply to our ER and hospital services) If...
I have a question for the Americans on here about insurances (im in Canada so this doesnt really apply to our ER and hospital services) If you deny the shot and are hospitalized later due to covid, will the insurance company still cover your stay? I've read about some folks being denied because the insurance company deemed the hospitalization preventable. Honest question, no ill intent. Just curious how many have looked into that.
I don’t know of any clauses that require Covid vaccinations. Doubt that there will be any, as I don’t think that any of my insurance policies have ever had any clause that denied coverage for any disease that you didn’t get vaccinated for.

Could be interesting if an insurance company tried it.
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9/2/2021 6:17am
How many of the “ my body my choice” people on here are all for limiting women’s access health? Ironic that when it comes to your body you want a choice, but someone else’s especially women you want to decide for them.
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9/2/2021 6:23am
soggy wrote:
Holy shit that was a wild ride.
He's vitals resident tin foil aficionado.
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9/2/2021 6:24am
Mcflurry98 wrote:
85 years ago our grandfathers left to fight wars in the Pacific and in Europe while the women stayed here building tanks, planes, and bombs so...
85 years ago our grandfathers left to fight wars in the Pacific and in Europe while the women stayed here building tanks, planes, and bombs so that we could preserve our way of life here in the U.S, stop the spread of tyranny, and stop genocide. I'm sure that many of them didn't want to do it, but they felt a civic responsiblity to do so. Especially after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Fast forward 85 years and we are arguing over how we stop this virus and preserve our way of life. We all have a civic responsibility in this. Some don't feel comfortable with the vaccine and that's understandable. Maybe the contribution that those people make is just wearing a mask indoors and social distancing. That's fine.

None the less, we all have a responsibility to contribute in SOME sort of way. Nobody liked doing a group project in school when half of the group contributed nothing because it was inconvenient for them, but then still reaped the benefits of what the contributing group members did.
wydopen wrote:
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your...
Really don’t want to keep commenting on vaccine threads but I honestly can’t believe how few people are understanding what’s happening here. This ISNT about your health or a virus, this is about the mega banks working with our captured governments to reshape society and the financial system into a corporate controlled “stakeholder capitalism” aka circular economy where you are granted a universal basic income that you can only spend at said corporations and your biometric ID is connected to your digital wallet so you can be tracked and monitored everywhere you go.. They are literally telling you what they are doing..It is so blatantly obvious If you look at the timeline and their own admissions but I guess people can’t break free of the spell the tv put them under. Look at the death data in the US last year. If they had not done widespread testing with a test not testing for the virus, not standardized so it admittedly has a high false positive rate and not done the media hype we would have said we had a bad flu season and moved on..this is a manufactured crisis, a permanent emergency so the people who created it can pose as the saviors. Read head of WEF klaus schwabs book, Covid-19 and the Great Reset and look at their propaganda materials. They literally say by 2030 you will “own nothing, have no privacy and be happy” you will also eat insects, weeds and drink sewage..literally. This is not a joke..

Here’s a simple timeline so you can wrap your head around this:

Early 1900’s Rockefeller’s monopolize medicine through the creation of the AMA and financial influence in American research institutions.

1949 Rockefeller’s and the OSS setup Mao in China to build the model of what they want to bring to the west, Authoritarian surveillance state.

1970’s. Chase Manhattan bank aka Rockefeller’s “opens up China to the west” creating the economic engine to begin undermining the United States. USA is taken off the gold standard so the banksters can create unlimited wealth and loan it interest free to their cronies

1990’s Chinese generals write paper on asymmetric 5th generation warfare where bio weapons and propaganda are used to weaken their enemies.

2000-2010 Rockefeller foundation in association with John’s Hopkins and the WEF write white papers and run several pandemic scenarios predicting a “more authoritarian style of government after pandemic subsides” among other things like a cyber attack on the financial system which is most likely coming next. At the same time Fauci was funding gain of function research on bat corona virus at UNC chapel hill. In 2013 after being pressured to halt said risky research fauci funded eco health alliance to move said research to Wuhan institute of virology.

John’s Hopkins releases Spars 2025-2028 a pandemic scenario in which there is a rush to vaccinate the public only to find out that it causes mass neurological disorders, blame is shifted to politicians and public health officials. Read it, it’s an exact model of what’s happened here. We are in 2026 of the scenario.

Sept 2019: Kerry Mullis inventor or PCR test and major critic of fauci and how he uses said test dies conveniently.

October 2019: John’s Hopkins, B&M Gates foundation and WEF put on Event 201 and corona virus pandemic scenario that mimics the initial response the governments and media take a few short months later.

Mystery virus appears in Wuhan China. Initial reports show people dying in the street (obviously fake), authorities welding people inside their homes etc etc causing extreme panic in the west leading to where we are now.

The vaccines were already developed and waiting. Personally do I think they are going to kill everyone who takes them? No..do I think they are a way to normalize the government mandating you genetically modify yourself under the liability protection of a “vaccine”? Most likely. These people have been writing books for a hundred years on how they want to play god and control the gene pool of all living things on earth. Not to mention the vaccines will drive the variants prolonging the emergency further transferring wealth and power to the mega corps and big banks. This is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. You don’t think these people know you can’t just keep printing $ forever? They need an excuse to cover up the fact they’ve been artificially propping up the dollar for the last 30years and need a bigger crime to cover up the first. They are buying up all the real estate, farmland and bankrupting small business to consolidate power. Just look at the patents from the last few years..digital wallet hooked to your biometric ID. Subdermal implants that constantly monitor your symptoms etc etc.

What’s coming next? They will milk this emergency for as long as possible. More lockdowns this winter..when the public’s fear begins to wane they will say we need climate lockdowns since emissions were reduced so much over the last few years. Then they will release a cyber attack on the financial system. They are running the scenario now “Cyber Polygon” from the WEF which will usher in the digital world currency and allow everything you do to be tracked and traced. It will be linked to a Chinese style social credit score where your digital wallet can be turned on or off based on your behavior and internet history. They already wrote the white papers on it. This is WW4 and the majority of people don’t even know they are in it
I love this bonkers conspiracy theory stuff - too bad it's so serious and proliferating it is probably going to kill some riders grandparent.

People often say the culture war that's become so mainstream has really "woken them up" to the startling and shocking" beliefs of their neighbors. That's not really the case for me.

My big disappointment is I've just become aware of how functionally illiterate people are. Read one thing, internalize another.
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9/2/2021 6:26am
Now I know why Vital is sometimes slow to open. It's redirecting me to Qanon. WTF is up with this place?
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9/2/2021 6:29am
Now I know why Vital is sometimes slow to open. It's redirecting me to Qanon. WTF is up with this place?
People have become addicted to arguing their opinion on the vaccine. Always the same people and same back and forth in every thread.
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