If you want an Austrian bike in 22

dcg141
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Edited Date/Time 5/27/2021 11:38am
You probably need to be on a list somewhere. The demand for bikes is not slowing down. If anything it seems to be gaining and its quickly overcoming supply. We got allocations for white and orange bikes last week and it took us a day to get the list sorted out and everyone called. 50's, 65's and 85's are sold thru and a lot of the big bikes are very close to being sold thru. I'm hoping red bikes can make up some of the slack when that allocation get released. I'm also going to order way more Beta's this year as that brand is gaining steam also. Not sure what is going on with Asian brands but I can't imagine its much better. Used bike prices are still way up there as well. I'm in a part of the country where frankly none of this should be happening. Markets like Texas, Florida and CA are mostly likely far busier. KTM has promised more bikes but cannot give dates and quantities.
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Asian brands are the same, or worse.
Put your deposit down now, they will be sold immediately .

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My local bike, and car dealers, are nearly empty.... local houses are hard to buy, even at 25k over list... prices are insane, while most people's pay is the same... not good...
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dcg141
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I have heard that the Asian brands are concentrating on side by side production because the demand there is even greater. I'm not sure of that but its going around the industry. Don't be shocked if the KTM group pulls ahead of Kawasaki and Yamaha in US total motorcycle sales in 22. It already happened in the 1st quarter with one and was very close to the other. KTM at this point has pulled even with those brands in the US. The growth in the US motorcycle business right now is off-road, adventure and small street bikes. If KTM decided to get into the CRF, TTR, KLX style bike then they would possibly catch Honda in US sales.
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dcg141
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Also if you want a lawn mower this summer you better go buy one..like next week. Usually I would still have well over a 100 units still in stock and I have 10.
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Don’t buy anything this year unless you have to! Stack your cash this year and you will win next year!
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lostboy819
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dcg141 wrote:
Also if you want a lawn mower this summer you better go buy one..like next week. Usually I would still have well over a 100 units...
Also if you want a lawn mower this summer you better go buy one..like next week. Usually I would still have well over a 100 units still in stock and I have 10.
Already got mine.Smile Cool




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5/23/2021 12:03pm
Kawboy14! wrote:
Don’t buy anything this year unless you have to! Stack your cash this year and you will win next year!
I’m wondering if saving cash is even a good option right now due to the accelerating inflation rate. How to hedge against inflation is something we should all be trying to figure out and I certainly don’t have a good answer. Maybe an MX forum isn’t the best place to ask about this but I’d love to hear some thoughts haha.
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speed_racer
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This motorcycle boom reminds me of 1970.
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Kawboy14! wrote:
Don’t buy anything this year unless you have to! Stack your cash this year and you will win next year!
I’m wondering if saving cash is even a good option right now due to the accelerating inflation rate. How to hedge against inflation is something we...
I’m wondering if saving cash is even a good option right now due to the accelerating inflation rate. How to hedge against inflation is something we should all be trying to figure out and I certainly don’t have a good answer. Maybe an MX forum isn’t the best place to ask about this but I’d love to hear some thoughts haha.
Simple answer.

Figure out what people need,
Start your own company and work 24/7 until it is successful.

Get someone you trust to run it and then ride dirt bikes 4 days a week, and don’t worry if a bike or a part cost another couple bucks.

You’re welcome.
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5/23/2021 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2021 4:43pm
As mentioned earlier, I think if you want any bike good luck. And you will pay for it. Picked up a 19 Yz250f in January with 3 hours on it for $6k. It was owned by a chick. She was scared of it. The bike is in like new condition. It has been just sitting in my garage. I saved myself $3k.
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sparker245
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5/23/2021 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2021 12:24pm
dcg141 wrote:
Also if you want a lawn mower this summer you better go buy one..like next week. Usually I would still have well over a 100 units...
Also if you want a lawn mower this summer you better go buy one..like next week. Usually I would still have well over a 100 units still in stock and I have 10.
Just put a deposit down at Home Depot on one of these bad boys. Sure home I can get a California Green Sticker so I can use it year round. Fingers crossed.
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5/23/2021 12:57pm
Kawboy14! wrote:
Don’t buy anything this year unless you have to! Stack your cash this year and you will win next year!
And this.
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Its not even the money thats sent out. Its the 0.07% fed funds rate while they buy $130 billion in bonds a month. Money is cheap right now, hell, it has been since early 2009.

Sure, if you have 4 kids and your household income is 60k, youve probably received a couple months income free. Hopefully those people didnt spend it on financing a works edition honda 450.
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agn5008
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I put a deposit down on a 22 KTM 300 XC last week. The dealer told me he didn’t accept deposits til they were told a round about date they’d start receiving bikes. My deposit was put in within 24 hours of him finding out. He had 9 others before me within that 24 hours. If you want a new KTM or Husky this year you better hurry up. The popular models such as the 300s and 350s may already be dried up.

I had a few KTM dealers tell me that their allotted number of bikes was cut by 30%. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that? The dealer I ultimately purchased from didn’t say that. But it seemed like the more shady dealers who were charging ridiculous prices were the ones saying it. So I didn’t know if it is true or not.
5/23/2021 6:30pm
agn5008 wrote:
I put a deposit down on a 22 KTM 300 XC last week. The dealer told me he didn’t accept deposits til they were told a...
I put a deposit down on a 22 KTM 300 XC last week. The dealer told me he didn’t accept deposits til they were told a round about date they’d start receiving bikes. My deposit was put in within 24 hours of him finding out. He had 9 others before me within that 24 hours. If you want a new KTM or Husky this year you better hurry up. The popular models such as the 300s and 350s may already be dried up.

I had a few KTM dealers tell me that their allotted number of bikes was cut by 30%. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that? The dealer I ultimately purchased from didn’t say that. But it seemed like the more shady dealers who were charging ridiculous prices were the ones saying it. So I didn’t know if it is true or not.
Dealers that told you their bikes were cut by 30% are going to be very disappointed. The KTM dealership I ride for sold 315 KTM's last year, they ordered more than that in 2022's. They are getting 113 units. Local Husky dealer is seeing similar number of 2022 cuts.
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agn5008 wrote:
I put a deposit down on a 22 KTM 300 XC last week. The dealer told me he didn’t accept deposits til they were told a...
I put a deposit down on a 22 KTM 300 XC last week. The dealer told me he didn’t accept deposits til they were told a round about date they’d start receiving bikes. My deposit was put in within 24 hours of him finding out. He had 9 others before me within that 24 hours. If you want a new KTM or Husky this year you better hurry up. The popular models such as the 300s and 350s may already be dried up.

I had a few KTM dealers tell me that their allotted number of bikes was cut by 30%. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that? The dealer I ultimately purchased from didn’t say that. But it seemed like the more shady dealers who were charging ridiculous prices were the ones saying it. So I didn’t know if it is true or not.
XC706 wrote:
Dealers that told you their bikes were cut by 30% are going to be very disappointed. The KTM dealership I ride for sold 315 KTM's last...
Dealers that told you their bikes were cut by 30% are going to be very disappointed. The KTM dealership I ride for sold 315 KTM's last year, they ordered more than that in 2022's. They are getting 113 units. Local Husky dealer is seeing similar number of 2022 cuts.
Damn so they weren’t lying. They told me June for my bike. Hopefully that’s true.
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I'm seeing these bike dealerships act more like car dealerships lately. I priced a KTM 690 last week. They quoted me $550 for setup and $400 shipping, so $950 total.The OTD selling price they quoted me was retail plus $400 shipping/setup,and tax and title of course. They claimed they were giving me a deal and knocking $400 off of the $550 setup. They told me KTM charged $550 for setup. I thought the dealer does setup? How can KTM charge for the dealers labor? Anyway, these guys just flat out lie and then they can't even get the math right that they just lied to you about. My "discount" would have been $550, not $400. I know math is hard but not basic math. Adding and subtracting is pretty easy there days.

The dealer and I are basically $400 apart. They email me daily and ask what it 's going take to put me on that new 690. Fucking priceless.

I love motorcycles but I'm really stating to hate the process of buying a new one and I'm really starting to hate motorcycle dealerships.
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I was at a KTM dealership here in TX a few days ago and overheard management saying they had 230 bikes coming in and every single one of them are already allocated. They aren’t going to have any new bikes to put out on the showroom floor. Crazy times.
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5/24/2021 9:45am
This frenzy is crazy. Enjoy it while it lasts. I can't imagine how good some of the deals will be on these "like new" bikes in a couple years when this all crumbles and the Great American toy sale begins...
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agn5008
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Tak_ryan wrote:
I was at a KTM dealership here in TX a few days ago and overheard management saying they had 230 bikes coming in and every single...
I was at a KTM dealership here in TX a few days ago and overheard management saying they had 230 bikes coming in and every single one of them are already allocated. They aren’t going to have any new bikes to put out on the showroom floor. Crazy times.
That is what I was told as well.
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5/24/2021 9:53am Edited Date/Time 5/24/2021 9:53am
Kawboy14! wrote:
Don’t buy anything this year unless you have to! Stack your cash this year and you will win next year!
I’m wondering if saving cash is even a good option right now due to the accelerating inflation rate. How to hedge against inflation is something we...
I’m wondering if saving cash is even a good option right now due to the accelerating inflation rate. How to hedge against inflation is something we should all be trying to figure out and I certainly don’t have a good answer. Maybe an MX forum isn’t the best place to ask about this but I’d love to hear some thoughts haha.
Well, I'm sure his is working, but pretty hard to call a new dirt bike a hedge against inflation.
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5/24/2021 10:00am
So it's May 2021 and we are complaining about not being able to get MY22 bikes for a few more months???

The OEMs are pretty good at forecasting demand. They build to the orders being submitted by the dealers/territory managers.

Times have changed....dealers can't afford to just SWAG their yearly bike orders, because if they don't sell, they are sitting on $10k+ assets EACH.

Dealers are playing with razor thin product volumes because they can't afford to stock like they did in the 80s/90s/early 2000s.

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5/24/2021 10:04am
dcg141 wrote:
Also if you want a lawn mower this summer you better go buy one..like next week. Usually I would still have well over a 100 units...
Also if you want a lawn mower this summer you better go buy one..like next week. Usually I would still have well over a 100 units still in stock and I have 10.
lostboy819 wrote:
Already got mine.:) B) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/05/23/494439/s1200_20201015_111857.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/05/23/494441/s1200_11802696_1200766993273159_5240626333775002782_o.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/05/23/494443/s1200_11221966_1200767089939816_99093463976115598_o.jpg[/img]
Already got mine.Smile Cool




Man why you flexin on us like that? Shiiit you need to join our Dad groups on FB, you just posted a factory edition and a solid practice bike...
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stone881
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5/24/2021 10:18am
Kawboy14! wrote:
Don’t buy anything this year unless you have to! Stack your cash this year and you will win next year!
I’m wondering if saving cash is even a good option right now due to the accelerating inflation rate. How to hedge against inflation is something we...
I’m wondering if saving cash is even a good option right now due to the accelerating inflation rate. How to hedge against inflation is something we should all be trying to figure out and I certainly don’t have a good answer. Maybe an MX forum isn’t the best place to ask about this but I’d love to hear some thoughts haha.
Simple....gold/silver/bitcoin
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Tried to buy a jet ski over the weekend .. 7 month wait.
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agn5008
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We were looking into having an in ground pool put in.... 3 year wait. I told my wife I don’t even know if we’ll still be married in 3 years (it was a joke obviously) Laughing
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MPJC
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Buy a TM. It’ll cost you and there will be a wait but they’ll build it just for you!
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5/24/2021 11:32am
Bikes and toys are going to be really expensive for a year or two. Then they will be really cheap. Mark my words.
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