Biggest surprise of outdoor nationals?

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The best thing is all the unknown before a series starts, everyone is fast and ready.

The biggest surprise for me will be if Tomac regains his beast form...
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5/10/2021 4:05pm
I am scared paul dominates. I hope barcia is the surprise with multiple wins.
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5/10/2021 4:20pm
I think Webb will surprise some people. I know it’s fun for some right now to hate on him for beating the sports darling but he’s a 250 outdoor champion and has proven he can get it done. Obviously doing it on a 450 is different but I think he can do it.
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Here are my possible "surprises" for outdoors:

I think AC has the speed to be a title contender if he can keep it on two wheels. He's been prepping for MX longer than almost anyone else too.

Tomac is an unknown, I don't believe for a second he has lost his beast mode. We saw during supercross that the few times he really cared about it (like the record at Daytona) he turned it on and smoked the pack. Last year he didn't even get a shot at the title given his DNF's and the shortened schedule, so he probably wasn't willing to risk riding on the edge. I give it at least a 50% chance that he turns up and lays down the law.

Roczen gets written off a lot due to his fitness/health and the demanding outdoors schedule, but he looked to be in a much better place this year. Outdoors suits his sprint early style and I think we could see some dominating performances. Webb certainly isn't in his head when it comes to MX.

And just for fun, Marv. It's do or die for him now, maybe we'll see a last ditch effort where he throws everything at it and surprises everyone with a long awaited title?

Wildcard: El Chupacabra appears out of nowhere and keeps everyone honest.
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c0ncEpT wrote:
It won't exactly be a surprise but I think J-Mart is going to be dominant. Winning at least 10 motos.
I really don’t see j mart hanging it out with all these young bucks this year. My biggest surprise will be Vohland getting multiple top 3 moto finishes
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5/10/2021 5:34pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Not sure if that would be a huge surprise but if I had to bet on someone I'd pick Adam for the title
Sorry to say, but I pick Adam to be first on the ground, closely followed by Forkner.
Those two are so fast but either careless or draw bad luck.
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Interested to see what version of Roczen shows up. I personally believe his status is a bigger mystery than Tomac to be honest. Sneaky suspicion he could still be under a health cloud with the way his SX season finished - multiple examples of fading/capitulating in the last 10 mins, ala 2020.
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soggy wrote:
I really don’t see j mart hanging it out with all these young bucks this year. My biggest surprise will be Vohland getting multiple top 3...
I really don’t see j mart hanging it out with all these young bucks this year. My biggest surprise will be Vohland getting multiple top 3 moto finishes
I was wondering if anyone was gonna show Vohland some love. I too think he is going to make the box a few times, and maybe even top step. Hoping for Hangtown since he's a local boy and we will be there!

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Hunter Lawrence's fitness he showed with late charges and lap times in SX makes me believe we are going to see the Hunter who battled and beat AC.

but i hope we see this season start how it last left off! lesgooo Jett!
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No one see's Barcia being "in it" outdoors? Anderson doesn't get goin', again? Marvin...? Kenny...?

Oh. Ok.
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5/10/2021 7:41pm
TeamGreen wrote:
No one see's Barcia being "in it" outdoors? Anderson doesn't get goin', again? Marvin...? Kenny...?

Oh. Ok.
I believe Marvin will be consistent and pull some late season charges to show people he still has it.
Barcia, will be spectacular fast first few rounds then back to 5-10 rest of season.
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Barcia winning some mud races !!
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TeamGreen wrote:
No one see's Barcia being "in it" outdoors? Anderson doesn't get goin', again? Marvin...? Kenny...?

Oh. Ok.
Those wouldn't surprise anyone.
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Fair enough, Aldon Baker addressed just that on a Motospy or similar episode a while back.

I understand there are a finite amount of tracks up to their standard and they have 'pro day' or fast friday or whichever is applicable to whichever track.

However, you'd assume pro day would be reserved for pro level dudes (not just factory guys obviously, but there has to be a standard for safety given the inherent speed differential) and you still have to think that private hire of the track (even collectively by multiple teams, theres no competitive advantage as they see each other ride on these days and many competing teams riders train together anyway now).

I dont know, I totally get the above point by bigk218 especially when some poor kid on a 65 ends up getting steam rolled by a 450 going mach 2.
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5/11/2021 2:52am
I wonder if Lupino could even be a surprise,pretty good showing in Italy at the weekend and he can often get a start...Ferrandis over the season though for me to trouble the big players,can't wait to see how he goes
5/11/2021 3:25am
Ryan Hughes will enter and race average and than take off his neck brace and knee braces and win everything...
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Southwick happens!
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Marvin has the red plate at one point of the season
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Anstie having red plate after round 2.

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I am curious to see what Marv does; does he carry momentum from the last few weeks of supercross into a strong outdoors run? We seem to forget he only lost the title by 16 points in 18, and never finished worse than 5th in a moto the entire summer. Does his consistency come back?

Seems we always have a privateer every year that crushes it. Curious to see if the "summer of rodbell" continues.
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5/11/2021 8:09am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2021 8:11am
Deegan shows up at a couple rounds on the 1-2-5 and scores some points Cool
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5/11/2021 10:41am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2021 10:43am
I think Webb will surprise some people. I know it’s fun for some right now to hate on him for beating the sports darling but he’s...
I think Webb will surprise some people. I know it’s fun for some right now to hate on him for beating the sports darling but he’s a 250 outdoor champion and has proven he can get it done. Obviously doing it on a 450 is different but I think he can do it.
Webb has won a single 450 moto; Tomac 25.

Webb will roll in 30 seconds behind as he usually does in 5-8.

Lawrence bros will be the main attraction in the 250's.
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I think Webb will surprise some people. I know it’s fun for some right now to hate on him for beating the sports darling but he’s...
I think Webb will surprise some people. I know it’s fun for some right now to hate on him for beating the sports darling but he’s a 250 outdoor champion and has proven he can get it done. Obviously doing it on a 450 is different but I think he can do it.
Webb has won a single 450 moto; Tomac 25. Webb will roll in 30 seconds behind as he usually does in 5-8. Lawrence bros will be...
Webb has won a single 450 moto; Tomac 25.

Webb will roll in 30 seconds behind as he usually does in 5-8.

Lawrence bros will be the main attraction in the 250's.
This. I get Webb is fast in SX, but he has been way off the pace in the 450's. He even said he doesn't like "high speed" tracks. He will be busy counting his SX bonus money. No shame in that.
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Webb has won a single 450 moto; Tomac 25. Webb will roll in 30 seconds behind as he usually does in 5-8. Lawrence bros will be...
Webb has won a single 450 moto; Tomac 25.

Webb will roll in 30 seconds behind as he usually does in 5-8.

Lawrence bros will be the main attraction in the 250's.
Webb went 1-1 at Millville 2019.
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Webb went 1-1 at Millville 2019.
He was probably thinking 1 overall win.
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