Bell Moto 10 who got one?

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xrmark 5/5/2021 8:31am
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One ugly helmet for 1k
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msp332 5/5/2021 8:33am
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nascarnate326 wrote:
Just think if we could have helmet shootouts with actual data like we do bike shootouts. Show the consumer why your helmet is better than some...
Just think if we could have helmet shootouts with actual data like we do bike shootouts.

Show the consumer why your helmet is better than some other brands.

The consumer get shafted in this area it seems.
All we need to see is the impact certifications. The other safety information is nice, but ultimately marketing without the test data and medical direction behind the test data.

Unfortunately the paid reviews don't even ask the question. We're not getting objective reviews, just advertising.
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msp332 5/5/2021 8:35am
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JoeyS wrote:
My ECE version is 1450gr (medium). Keep in mind they are built to pass ECE 22.06 standard as well, you’ll find a lot of the super...
My ECE version is 1450gr (medium). Keep in mind they are built to pass ECE 22.06 standard as well, you’ll find a lot of the super light helmets on the market will be getting heavier as the new standard is phased in.

Rode with it on Sunday, the ventilation is incredible! Sizing is true to the Flex, but the new helmet is more comfortable on my head.

I’m sure it won’t be for everyone, but I’m very impressed with it.
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Does your Moto 10 have the ECE 22.06 sticker? I haven't seen anything in any paid reviews or anything on Bell's website about it being certified...
Does your Moto 10 have the ECE 22.06 sticker?
I haven't seen anything in any paid reviews or anything on Bell's website about it being certified to 22.06. Stating ECE certification will be legal in the EU until 2024 (with 22.05).

You would think the most important question would be how safe is it and which impact standards does it meet but nobody is even asking.
JBecker 72 wrote:
If you buy one in the USA it’s gonna be Snell certified.
FYI not just USA - once a helmet is Snell certified it's for the model worldwide.
Easily checked on the Snell list: https://smf.org/certlist/std_M2020D.php
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JBecker 72 5/5/2021 9:09am
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msp332 wrote:
Does your Moto 10 have the ECE 22.06 sticker? I haven't seen anything in any paid reviews or anything on Bell's website about it being certified...
Does your Moto 10 have the ECE 22.06 sticker?
I haven't seen anything in any paid reviews or anything on Bell's website about it being certified to 22.06. Stating ECE certification will be legal in the EU until 2024 (with 22.05).

You would think the most important question would be how safe is it and which impact standards does it meet but nobody is even asking.
JBecker 72 wrote:
If you buy one in the USA it’s gonna be Snell certified.
msp332 wrote:
FYI not just USA - once a helmet is Snell certified it's for the model worldwide.
Easily checked on the Snell list: https://smf.org/certlist/std_M2020D.php
I was under the impression that the European market helmets were different.

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msp332 5/5/2021 11:02am
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JBecker 72 wrote:
I was under the impression that the European market helmets were different.
They would be a different model. Snell pulls random helmets from the manufacturer to test.
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Motofinne 5/7/2021 1:44am
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JBecker 72 wrote:
I was under the impression that the European market helmets were different.
msp332 wrote:
They would be a different model. Snell pulls random helmets from the manufacturer to test.
The European Moto 10 is definitely different model, it weighs around 200g less that the SNELL rated US model.

Shoei has a completely different model name for their European helmet. VFX-EVO for the US SNELL helmet and VFX-WR for the European version.
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msp332 5/7/2021 10:39am
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The European Moto 10 is definitely different model, it weighs around 200g less that the SNELL rated US model. Shoei has a completely different model name...
The European Moto 10 is definitely different model, it weighs around 200g less that the SNELL rated US model.

Shoei has a completely different model name for their European helmet. VFX-EVO for the US SNELL helmet and VFX-WR for the European version.
There can be multiple variations that are all Snell certified.

I can't explain the weight difference between euro and US models (DOT vs ECE? Difference in how weight is reported with sizing?) but Snell certified models cannot change. If they do, there is an explicit notice posted on the Snell page stating that not all models are Snell certified (for example, not all Bell Moto 9's are Snell certified). Snell tracks this and updates the list daily.

From Snell: https://smf.org/certtrack
"Once a helmet model is certified, the manufacturer cannot make any design change. Any structural modification automatically invalidates existing certification, because it could affect the performance quality of the helmet. Snell keeps a helmet archive of every certified helmet model for future inspection and verification."
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49weasel 5/8/2021 6:53am
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My son put a pretty good gash in his Flex last weekend and Motorsport had 1 small Moto 10 left.
The shape is kinda bowling ball’ish. Not sure on the fit yet, he’s 7 so as long as it looks cool he doesn’t care.




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mirramaxx wrote:
$850 !!! Holy moly!
Wait for the Flex pricing!
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mx510 5/8/2021 9:40am
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$850 for a helmet and the biggest improvement they made was ventilation? Did I miss something from the presser?
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mx510 wrote:
$850 for a helmet and the biggest improvement they made was ventilation? Did I miss something from the presser?
Inner lining moves on ball joints. Pretty cool tech.
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TD248 5/9/2021 8:17pm
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I got one and all I can say is wow.... so incredibly comfortable, light, and insane ventilation... And I’m coming off of using 6Ds My only squak is the rubber nose piece likes to pop out and I will say that’s slightly annoying. But otherwise it is an absolutely incredible work of art.
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Myke 5/10/2021 6:15pm
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I ended up with one as well. Haven't tried it yet.
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Myke wrote:
I ended up with one as well. Haven't tried it yet. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/492180/s1200_20210503_210901.jpg[/img]
I ended up with one as well. Haven't tried it yet.
No offense, but that visor angle is reminiscent of the time RC looped out at the Pontiac SX (if memory serves me correctly).
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Myke wrote:
I ended up with one as well. Haven't tried it yet. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/05/10/492180/s1200_20210503_210901.jpg[/img]
I ended up with one as well. Haven't tried it yet.
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No offense, but that visor angle is reminiscent of the time RC looped out at the Pontiac SX (if memory serves me correctly).
Oops...looks like my memory is not so great...just watched that Pontiac race again...RC's visor never flipped upward, as it was dangling off one side the entire way after his crash. Sorry to hijack the thread! Nice helmet, anyway!
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aeffertz 5/13/2021 7:34pm
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I'll likely never have one of these in my hands but I made a 3D version of it! Laughing

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dancolvin633 5/13/2021 10:56pm
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I got 132 of 1000. Haven’t worn it yet. Seems to fit tight around my cheeks. Hopefully it breaks in. Been wearing 6d but but head get hot in them. Hopefully this moto 10 cents good
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JBecker 72 wrote:
I was under the impression that the European market helmets were different.
msp332 wrote:
They would be a different model. Snell pulls random helmets from the manufacturer to test.
Motofinne wrote:
The European Moto 10 is definitely different model, it weighs around 200g less that the SNELL rated US model. Shoei has a completely different model name...
The European Moto 10 is definitely different model, it weighs around 200g less that the SNELL rated US model.

Shoei has a completely different model name for their European helmet. VFX-EVO for the US SNELL helmet and VFX-WR for the European version.
You can't even order a Shoei VFX-WR to North America from Europe. At least I couldn't when I was looking at buying one.
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Just logged in to say that I contacted their customer support for smaller cheek pads, they got back to me and said that, yes, replacement cheek pads are now available! So I scooped up some smaller ones. Same price as moto-9 cheeks I think. Even though the moto-10 cheeks are tighter than the 9s, I have pretty much always had to get smaller cheek pads.
Also-- the helmet is sick. I had a 9 flex, and the first thing I said with the 10 was "wow it's lighter". I don't have a scale but it seems 150-200g lighter. DOT /Snell version. Feels great. The rubber around the eye port is also more rounded and more durable. I loved my 9, but that rubber strip was sharp, and sometimes would snag my jersey or other stuff. It's all a great leap from my old moto 5, which had polar fleece inside and rubber stripping that would peel off if you looked at it wrong :D

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sandtrack315 6/26/2021 8:26am
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Anyone know when they are restocking a wider range of colors?
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KGAspeed wrote:
I highly doubt that is true. The world isn’t one big conspiracy. I’m sure there IS a factor of “setting the pricing bar” higher which then...
I highly doubt that is true. The world isn’t one big conspiracy.

I’m sure there IS a factor of “setting the pricing bar” higher which then opens the door for others to follow snd reach for that bar as well.

But Bell has the resources and likely the desire to try to make a better, safer product in what is now a premium price point around $800.

Not everything is a con. I don’t understand that mentality.

Also consider - there are 3 levels of pricing to reach the consumer. Manufacturing cost, distributor cost and retail. Everyone has to make money to keep the wheel turning. Bell sells to a distributor who then sells to your dealer.

But yes the LE launch is a strategy to build hype and likely due to a lack of ability to go into full production. This helmet was supposed to come out last year. That part is somewhat valid.
No conspiracy...just the wonderful world of Marketing. Look at how many bikes have been sold over the years, with higher prices than the year model before with essentially nothing any more changed that the graphics. And if you hype a new product with the tag like "Limited Edition", and hold the production down to a few hundred (at least initially) then you can command a higher price because it's not only a "Limited Edition" but "rare" as well.

Nothing crazy...this has gone on for decades, in every industry.

Watch Bell introduce the same helmet next year for $300-or so less, with none of this years hype attatched to it.
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Bell is after a different type of customer, one that will spend more for the latest and greatest knowing they will sell fewer helmets but get more for each one.
I like the Airoh helmets, they look good, fit good, priced right and are pretty damn light.
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Received my order for a size smaller cheekpads. They're black which I like. Bell helmets have always fit me the best, but I do like going down a size in the cheeks. My cheeks were a bit squished in the Moto 9, and even more in the Moto 10. So, smaller cheekpads. One thing that is probably common, but might be accentuated in the Moto 10 design, is that the cheekpad size seems to affect the cheekbone/temple area as much if not more than your grinning cheeks. So, my cheeks are more comfy, yes, but there's more room up top now too-- so the helmet moves a bit more on my dome. Something to note. If I had to do it over again? I'd probably wait to see if the stock cheeks broke in more, before ordering.
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dancolvin633 6/27/2021 10:07am
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bikefilms wrote:
Received my order for a size smaller cheekpads. They're black which I like. Bell helmets have always fit me the best, but I do like going...
Received my order for a size smaller cheekpads. They're black which I like. Bell helmets have always fit me the best, but I do like going down a size in the cheeks. My cheeks were a bit squished in the Moto 9, and even more in the Moto 10. So, smaller cheekpads. One thing that is probably common, but might be accentuated in the Moto 10 design, is that the cheekpad size seems to affect the cheekbone/temple area as much if not more than your grinning cheeks. So, my cheeks are more comfy, yes, but there's more room up top now too-- so the helmet moves a bit more on my dome. Something to note. If I had to do it over again? I'd probably wait to see if the stock cheeks broke in more, before ordering.
I had the same issue with the cheek pads being too tight. One ride and they broke in and fit nicely now.

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