Will Roczen ever win a SX Championship?

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Here's to hoping he can squeeze out one more season...Blush
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Prior to Tomac winning his first 450SX title last year, nobody had ever won their first big bike title later than their 7th year in the class. 2022 will be Roczen's 9th season in the 450 class. The odds are heavily stacked against him winning a 450SX title.

It is going to take an injury or mechanical DNF from Cooper for Roczen to win it this year.
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You guys create Roczen threads like children write wish lists to Santa. He's 99% not going to win it this year.
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Shows up to the press conference all hot shit in a suit, destroys career 3 weeks later. Karma
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Kenny should of stayed with aldon baker n maybe he would not fade late in races.
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Fonzarelli wrote:
If he's the fastest how does Webb keep catching up to him?
duckdog77 wrote:
Raw speed wise I don’t think any one will argue Kenny has Cooper covered. Coopers late in the race come backs come from a couple things...
Raw speed wise I don’t think any one will argue Kenny has Cooper covered.

Coopers late in the race come backs come from a couple things. Mental fortitude, and bike set up. His bike comes to him late in races. He sets it up this way. For when the track goes away. Which is why sometimes his fast laps come late in a race. While others bikes are starting to go away from them. Sexton talks about this a little on this weeks Pulp episode and how he’s starting to learn that process.
I would argue that what Webb displays in his late race charges might just be classified as "raw speed" Wink
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skeef wrote:
You guys create Roczen threads like children write wish lists to Santa. He's 99% not going to win it this year.
Just check the title thread. We are not talking about this year.
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Will Webb ever win a MX Championship?
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4/21/2021 3:19pm
Kasims wrote:
Will Webb ever win a MX Championship?
The odds are better for Cooper to win an MX title in the coming years than SX for roczen.

and yes it's totally possible for Roczen to still win this one but it's going to be hard and if he doesn't next year may be even harder IMHO...

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Cooper and Andersen were never going to win, until they did.
Eli was never going to win, despite coming so close several times, until he did.
So Roczen is never going to win, until he does.
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mike_v812 wrote:
Shows up to the press conference all hot shit in a suit, destroys career 3 weeks later. Karma
I have read some pretty shitty things on this board over the years, but this takes it.
Back in your hole Moran!
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Kasims wrote:
Will Webb ever win a MX Championship?
Pakoyz250f wrote:
The odds are better for Cooper to win an MX title in the coming years than SX for roczen. and yes it's totally possible for Roczen...
The odds are better for Cooper to win an MX title in the coming years than SX for roczen.

and yes it's totally possible for Roczen to still win this one but it's going to be hard and if he doesn't next year may be even harder IMHO...

Based on what?
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I have read some pretty shitty things on this board over the years, but this takes it.
Back in your hole Moran!
I have to agree. You see a lot of dumb shit on this board....but wow. That was HOF tard....
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He's taking it to CW...may not be enough currently to win this year, but who knows about next year? Don't write anybody off...just enjoy the show
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Kasims wrote:
Will Webb ever win a MX Championship?
Pakoyz250f wrote:
The odds are better for Cooper to win an MX title in the coming years than SX for roczen. and yes it's totally possible for Roczen...
The odds are better for Cooper to win an MX title in the coming years than SX for roczen.

and yes it's totally possible for Roczen to still win this one but it's going to be hard and if he doesn't next year may be even harder IMHO...

Park Boys wrote:
Based on what?
Based on next year will be Roczen's 9th year in the 450 class, and Webb's 6th.
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mike_v812 wrote:
Shows up to the press conference all hot shit in a suit, destroys career 3 weeks later. Karma
Insert facepalm and timeout here.
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mike_v812 wrote:
Shows up to the press conference all hot shit in a suit, destroys career 3 weeks later. Karma
I don't even know where to start....

Enjoy your timeout.
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gt80rider wrote:
His best years are behind him, and the old crew of Tomac, Marvin, El Hombre, Webb, ect won't be his biggest threat going forward, it will...
His best years are behind him, and the old crew of Tomac, Marvin, El Hombre, Webb, ect won't be his biggest threat going forward, it will be guys like AC, Sexton and Pless...... all of whom are sporting less physical damage, as well as less burn-out.... K-Roc was a beast no doubt, and one of the fastest to ever throw a leg over, but he let one guy mentally destroy him the later part of his 450 career....
You know Webbs less than a year Older than AC9 and AP7?
Webb went to the 450 class pretty young compared to a lot of rookies entering the class now. I dare say he will be pretty dominant for the next few years.
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bowl wrote:
Kenny should of stayed with aldon baker n maybe he would not fade late in races.
He would be burnt out and retired by now if he stayed with Aldon.
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Yeah no for sure
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gt80rider wrote:
His best years are behind him, and the old crew of Tomac, Marvin, El Hombre, Webb, ect won't be his biggest threat going forward, it will...
His best years are behind him, and the old crew of Tomac, Marvin, El Hombre, Webb, ect won't be his biggest threat going forward, it will be guys like AC, Sexton and Pless...... all of whom are sporting less physical damage, as well as less burn-out.... K-Roc was a beast no doubt, and one of the fastest to ever throw a leg over, but he let one guy mentally destroy him the later part of his 450 career....
decano51 wrote:
You know Webbs less than a year Older than AC9 and AP7? Webb went to the 450 class pretty young compared to a lot of rookies...
You know Webbs less than a year Older than AC9 and AP7?
Webb went to the 450 class pretty young compared to a lot of rookies entering the class now. I dare say he will be pretty dominant for the next few years.
I agree. The only thing that could derail the Webb wagon would be if Feld starts building tracks with real whoops again. I get it that Cooper hung it out in the whoops and made it happen last weekend, but historically big whoops aren’t his friend.
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This was his shot, when you get that chance you have to take it. I dont see a way he gets into a better situation than he had this year. If he couldnt do it now idk how he does it later. He had over a 10 point lead on 2nd and 30+ up on 3rd place which was Tomac. If he cant do it then when can he? Webb isnt going anywhere and neither is Tomac. On top of that better and better people are filling up the class every year. When you have a shot like he did you have to give it everything you have and not settle. He showed this year that hes ok with settling. The person who will not settle will be the one who wins the next one.
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4/22/2021 10:17am
mike_v812 wrote:
Shows up to the press conference all hot shit in a suit, destroys career 3 weeks later. Karma
This is his best 450sx season to date
4/22/2021 10:18am
bowl wrote:
Kenny should of stayed with aldon baker n maybe he would not fade late in races.
He would of been burn out an retired 3 years ago if he stayed there
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Simple no
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He is the most talented guy out there but I just don't see him as someone who would manage to grind it out if someone puts up a fight, there's mutliple guys out there that does it bettar than him.
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Since when does a series end 2 races before it's over?
My understanding, and I might be wrong, is that it ain't over until it's over.
A 16 point lead can disappear in a second, or another 16 points added.
I hope Roczen fights to the end, and expect he will. He might find himself riding with the #1 plate next year.

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What brand were the handle bars that bent and cost him the title?
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he dont need the money and has a family. young guys are always coming up. i say no, but i wanted him to make it happen this year.
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