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3/30/2021 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 3/30/2021 1:11pm
I spoke to the the guy who owned the track at an area qualifier we attended. He was very candid with me and said he loved practice days over race days. (He had some not so nice words about Mxpsorts, the area qualifier etc, but that is for another time) Practice weekends he would bring in between $3500/4000. He went on to point out the $15,000 in high output LED's he just put in to run a Friday night race series in the summer on a smallish, supercross style track. He also told me he bought 150 acres of woods next to his track to incorporate a woods loop so he could run some GP's. This old boy new what the hell he was doing and I damn well believe he was smart enough to be making money running his facility.
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3/30/2021 3:09pm
aj35 wrote:
Thanks I saw it was for sale maybe ill call just to poke around. That would be my wife's choice she has family in TN I...
Thanks I saw it was for sale maybe ill call just to poke around. That would be my wife's choice she has family in TN I would rather be where I never see snow ever again.
So about that Racetown/Sunrise track...
3/30/2021 3:15pm
What ever happened to Bremen 2.0? Is that land still available? North Georgia (Atlanta / Athens areas) are hurting for tracks. We have a decent one in Scrubin Dirt, but we need more
3/30/2021 3:24pm
crusher773 wrote:
Income producing MX track, this guy, what a jokester. Oh boy that's a good one I got a chuckle.
aj35 wrote:
So do you think all tracks are in the red ? If thats the case there would be no place to ride. You know people told...
So do you think all tracks are in the red ? If thats the case there would be no place to ride. You know people told me when I started my current business I wouldn't make any money well here I am a guy looking to buy a non income producing track with money from another non income producing business all so people on this forum and my son can continue to enjoy a sport that I have done my whole life. Thank God we are not relying on you to keep this sport going .
Don't pay any attention to that fatboy crusher, he shits on everything in vital and is all talk. There are people who get things done and people who bitch about everything,guess which one he is Cool Wink
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3/30/2021 5:17pm
crusher773 wrote:
Income producing MX track, this guy, what a jokester. Oh boy that's a good one I got a chuckle.
aj35 wrote:
So do you think all tracks are in the red ? If thats the case there would be no place to ride. You know people told...
So do you think all tracks are in the red ? If thats the case there would be no place to ride. You know people told me when I started my current business I wouldn't make any money well here I am a guy looking to buy a non income producing track with money from another non income producing business all so people on this forum and my son can continue to enjoy a sport that I have done my whole life. Thank God we are not relying on you to keep this sport going .
lostboy819 wrote:
Don't pay any attention to that fatboy crusher, he shits on everything in vital and is all talk. There are people who get things done and...
Don't pay any attention to that fatboy crusher, he shits on everything in vital and is all talk. There are people who get things done and people who bitch about everything,guess which one he is Cool Wink
Someone miserable with their real life
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3/30/2021 6:32pm Edited Date/Time 3/30/2021 6:38pm
crusher773 wrote:
Income producing MX track, this guy, what a jokester. Oh boy that's a good one I got a chuckle.
aj35 wrote:
So do you think all tracks are in the red ? If thats the case there would be no place to ride. You know people told...
So do you think all tracks are in the red ? If thats the case there would be no place to ride. You know people told me when I started my current business I wouldn't make any money well here I am a guy looking to buy a non income producing track with money from another non income producing business all so people on this forum and my son can continue to enjoy a sport that I have done my whole life. Thank God we are not relying on you to keep this sport going .
lostboy819 wrote:
Don't pay any attention to that fatboy crusher, he shits on everything in vital and is all talk. There are people who get things done and...
Don't pay any attention to that fatboy crusher, he shits on everything in vital and is all talk. There are people who get things done and people who bitch about everything,guess which one he is Cool Wink
No problem with my life boys and I don't shit on everything that's total BS. I was just saying it's a tough business you'll find a lot more guys that don't turn a profit than do.
What exactly do I bitch about? I'm no worse than the rest of you nimrods.
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3/30/2021 6:36pm
Please for the love of god hit up the fortune family and try to get iron city. One of my favorite tracks and they only run it probably twice a year it’s a shame. Fantastic location of 85 exit 102 in sc, great parking, great elevation changes, great for spectators. Pisses me off every time I think about how they just let it sit and rot.
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3/30/2021 6:53pm
Motodave15 wrote:
This thread got me thinking.... You could go buy like 4 or 5 acres of (Unrestricted land) underneath 30k.... and just put a fence around it...
This thread got me thinking.... You could go buy like 4 or 5 acres of (Unrestricted land) underneath 30k.... and just put a fence around it and start riding.

Then eventually, you could open it up to the public if you wanted to.. This is my gameplan for my 40s lol. going to buy some land and ride it for a few years and determine if i want a public track or just keep it for the family to ride on forever.


https://www.landwatch.com/california-land-for-sale/recreational-property/price-under-49999/acres-under-10
4 or 5 acres is not nearly enough land for a public Mx track. I built a 2:30 pro lap time track on my property and it took up at least 25 of the 40 acres. Granted, there were not many lanes that could’ve came together if a rider got out of shape, but a descent layout will use up at least 10-15 acres, IMHO
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3/30/2021 6:57pm
bh wrote:
Please for the love of god hit up the fortune family and try to get iron city. One of my favorite tracks and they only run...
Please for the love of god hit up the fortune family and try to get iron city. One of my favorite tracks and they only run it probably twice a year it’s a shame. Fantastic location of 85 exit 102 in sc, great parking, great elevation changes, great for spectators. Pisses me off every time I think about how they just let it sit and rot.
That is a pretty sick track
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bh wrote:
Please for the love of god hit up the fortune family and try to get iron city. One of my favorite tracks and they only run...
Please for the love of god hit up the fortune family and try to get iron city. One of my favorite tracks and they only run it probably twice a year it’s a shame. Fantastic location of 85 exit 102 in sc, great parking, great elevation changes, great for spectators. Pisses me off every time I think about how they just let it sit and rot.
aj35 wrote:
That is a pretty sick track
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone number listed is the guy who owns it.
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3/31/2021 5:26am
Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy the facility and we’re busting on him..
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bh wrote:
Please for the love of god hit up the fortune family and try to get iron city. One of my favorite tracks and they only run...
Please for the love of god hit up the fortune family and try to get iron city. One of my favorite tracks and they only run it probably twice a year it’s a shame. Fantastic location of 85 exit 102 in sc, great parking, great elevation changes, great for spectators. Pisses me off every time I think about how they just let it sit and rot.
aj35 wrote:
That is a pretty sick track
bh wrote:
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone...
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone number listed is the guy who owns it.
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see what they say. Thanks for the lead
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3/31/2021 5:38am
aj35 wrote:
That is a pretty sick track
bh wrote:
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone...
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone number listed is the guy who owns it.
aj35 wrote:
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see...
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see what they say. Thanks for the lead
np I just want to see someone take it and really take it to its full potential. not in my riding career, but in the past i knew they used have Loretta's qualifiers and big turnouts. now they just run an outlaw race or 2 per year.
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Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy...
Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy the facility and we’re busting on him..
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love it because even though you compete on the track everyone is usually helpful off the track. Once in a while you meet a douche which even on this forum most people have been more than helpful. There is always that one guy who needs to say something just to feel important.
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bh wrote:
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone...
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone number listed is the guy who owns it.
aj35 wrote:
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see...
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see what they say. Thanks for the lead
bh wrote:
np I just want to see someone take it and really take it to its full potential. not in my riding career, but in the past...
np I just want to see someone take it and really take it to its full potential. not in my riding career, but in the past i knew they used have Loretta's qualifiers and big turnouts. now they just run an outlaw race or 2 per year.
I looked it up looks pretty beat not much happening there coming from owning a construction company im pretty sure I can turn most places around for the better.
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3/31/2021 5:46am
Call Matt Walker and see if he is interested in selling Echeconnee near Macon, Ga.
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aj35 wrote:
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see...
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see what they say. Thanks for the lead
bh wrote:
np I just want to see someone take it and really take it to its full potential. not in my riding career, but in the past...
np I just want to see someone take it and really take it to its full potential. not in my riding career, but in the past i knew they used have Loretta's qualifiers and big turnouts. now they just run an outlaw race or 2 per year.
aj35 wrote:
I looked it up looks pretty beat not much happening there coming from owning a construction company im pretty sure I can turn most places around...
I looked it up looks pretty beat not much happening there coming from owning a construction company im pretty sure I can turn most places around for the better.
yea they used to run it more but since they started 221mx (their third track) which is down the road from Cathey's creek (their main track). I would hope now that they have 2 tracks they run that are just down the street from each other that he would let the third go. his only concern would probably be still letting his race series go there.
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3/31/2021 6:08am
aj35 wrote:
That is a pretty sick track
bh wrote:
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone...
if you want to look into it go to the Cathey's creek mx fb page or the big oak mx website and i believe the phone number listed is the guy who owns it.
aj35 wrote:
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see...
I'll give them a ring . Some of these other tracks I tried calling and noone answered or they were sold. Ill try them tomorrow see what they say. Thanks for the lead
Sent you a PM.
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3/31/2021 8:59am
IMO, it's a difficult business to be in if you have to mortgage the land, buy equipment, and then invest significant money in developing the track and facility. If you are starting from scratch, it has to be built up slowly over several years or else the debt burden is going to be so high that you would be operating on razor thin margins.

If you buy a turn key operation that is more or less "ready to race," I would HOPE that the profit being generated would at lease cover the monthly expenses.

There are several "club" owned tracks in my area that have been around for decades. They own the land free and clear, have modest equipment to keep the track groomed, and rely heavily on club member support to work the track and help with race days. For an average district race, they would typically profit around $3k to $8k which includes gate fees, entry fees, concession sales, and sponsorship fees. Race day insurance, food supplies for concession, and onsite EMS were always the biggest expenses for each race. I can recall several races where the weather was really shitty the day of the race and very poor rider turnouts resulted in barely any profits made at all.

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3/31/2021 9:25am
Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy...
Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy the facility and we’re busting on him..
aj35 wrote:
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love...
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love it because even though you compete on the track everyone is usually helpful off the track. Once in a while you meet a douche which even on this forum most people have been more than helpful. There is always that one guy who needs to say something just to feel important.
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and it is the dream of most riders. I have been involved in running a club track (free land, donated machine hours and man hours) and it did well on race day, but wouldn't support a family.

Having gone to school for ski resort management and been in/out/around the moto industry all of my adult life, I can tell you that these types of businesses hope to break even on the riding aspect and make their money on food/beverage/real estate. Unless you are near a major mx community, SoCal being the top, it is hard to do I wouldn't consider a track in the boonies if you are planning to live off of the income, has to be near a city. You may also consider the land value for down the road, if/when you decide to sell. That might be the only way you end up in the black on the deal.

Have you thought about a moto community? Something akin to a ski resort, or golf club? Imo that model is long overdue and would work in the right location. I am not talking about training facility model, but something a step above.

Regardless, best of luck and enjoy the experience, nothing better than pushing dirt around to make a track!

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3/31/2021 9:42am
stone881 wrote:
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and...
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and it is the dream of most riders. I have been involved in running a club track (free land, donated machine hours and man hours) and it did well on race day, but wouldn't support a family.

Having gone to school for ski resort management and been in/out/around the moto industry all of my adult life, I can tell you that these types of businesses hope to break even on the riding aspect and make their money on food/beverage/real estate. Unless you are near a major mx community, SoCal being the top, it is hard to do I wouldn't consider a track in the boonies if you are planning to live off of the income, has to be near a city. You may also consider the land value for down the road, if/when you decide to sell. That might be the only way you end up in the black on the deal.

Have you thought about a moto community? Something akin to a ski resort, or golf club? Imo that model is long overdue and would work in the right location. I am not talking about training facility model, but something a step above.

Regardless, best of luck and enjoy the experience, nothing better than pushing dirt around to make a track!

Not to hijack the thread...But this is what Js63 track that was supposed to open out here..should've done.
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3/31/2021 9:56am
MX421 in Yadkinville NC just switched ownership to Weston and Stewart's old mechanic!
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3/31/2021 11:28am Edited Date/Time 3/31/2021 11:29am
Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy...
Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy the facility and we’re busting on him..
aj35 wrote:
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love...
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love it because even though you compete on the track everyone is usually helpful off the track. Once in a while you meet a douche which even on this forum most people have been more than helpful. There is always that one guy who needs to say something just to feel important.
stone881 wrote:
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and...
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and it is the dream of most riders. I have been involved in running a club track (free land, donated machine hours and man hours) and it did well on race day, but wouldn't support a family.

Having gone to school for ski resort management and been in/out/around the moto industry all of my adult life, I can tell you that these types of businesses hope to break even on the riding aspect and make their money on food/beverage/real estate. Unless you are near a major mx community, SoCal being the top, it is hard to do I wouldn't consider a track in the boonies if you are planning to live off of the income, has to be near a city. You may also consider the land value for down the road, if/when you decide to sell. That might be the only way you end up in the black on the deal.

Have you thought about a moto community? Something akin to a ski resort, or golf club? Imo that model is long overdue and would work in the right location. I am not talking about training facility model, but something a step above.

Regardless, best of luck and enjoy the experience, nothing better than pushing dirt around to make a track!

Didn't you try to do the moto resort thing before? How did that work out for you?
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3/31/2021 12:28pm
aj35 wrote:
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love...
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love it because even though you compete on the track everyone is usually helpful off the track. Once in a while you meet a douche which even on this forum most people have been more than helpful. There is always that one guy who needs to say something just to feel important.
stone881 wrote:
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and...
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and it is the dream of most riders. I have been involved in running a club track (free land, donated machine hours and man hours) and it did well on race day, but wouldn't support a family.

Having gone to school for ski resort management and been in/out/around the moto industry all of my adult life, I can tell you that these types of businesses hope to break even on the riding aspect and make their money on food/beverage/real estate. Unless you are near a major mx community, SoCal being the top, it is hard to do I wouldn't consider a track in the boonies if you are planning to live off of the income, has to be near a city. You may also consider the land value for down the road, if/when you decide to sell. That might be the only way you end up in the black on the deal.

Have you thought about a moto community? Something akin to a ski resort, or golf club? Imo that model is long overdue and would work in the right location. I am not talking about training facility model, but something a step above.

Regardless, best of luck and enjoy the experience, nothing better than pushing dirt around to make a track!

dkurtd wrote:
Didn't you try to do the moto resort thing before? How did that work out for you?
Yeah, I was never able to make a deal for the land. I haven't given up on the idea, but its a tricky deal to pull off. Really surprised that nobody else has done it, I would buy a lot in a heart beat.
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Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy...
Wait..this is an MX forum and we’re busting on a guy wanting to buy a track for the public?? He clearly has the cash to buy the facility and we’re busting on him..
aj35 wrote:
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love...
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love it because even though you compete on the track everyone is usually helpful off the track. Once in a while you meet a douche which even on this forum most people have been more than helpful. There is always that one guy who needs to say something just to feel important.
stone881 wrote:
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and...
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and it is the dream of most riders. I have been involved in running a club track (free land, donated machine hours and man hours) and it did well on race day, but wouldn't support a family.

Having gone to school for ski resort management and been in/out/around the moto industry all of my adult life, I can tell you that these types of businesses hope to break even on the riding aspect and make their money on food/beverage/real estate. Unless you are near a major mx community, SoCal being the top, it is hard to do I wouldn't consider a track in the boonies if you are planning to live off of the income, has to be near a city. You may also consider the land value for down the road, if/when you decide to sell. That might be the only way you end up in the black on the deal.

Have you thought about a moto community? Something akin to a ski resort, or golf club? Imo that model is long overdue and would work in the right location. I am not talking about training facility model, but something a step above.

Regardless, best of luck and enjoy the experience, nothing better than pushing dirt around to make a track!

We had a similar idea about 10 years ago. Bought 300 acres. Started the track layout and neighbors broke in, got our diesel tank unlocked and burned every oiece of equipment to the ground. $300k in heavy machines. Our plan was to build onsite storage facilities, a wash paddock, laundry room and a mechanics area with 10 bays. $200 a month, store your bike and gear in the facility, wrench on it, buy your gas, everything onsite.
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aj35 wrote:
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love...
Crazy isn't it . Oh well . For the most part mx is a tight community growing up racing in the northeast I grew to love it because even though you compete on the track everyone is usually helpful off the track. Once in a while you meet a douche which even on this forum most people have been more than helpful. There is always that one guy who needs to say something just to feel important.
stone881 wrote:
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and...
In defense of that post, he is right that most tracks won't make a profit. Not trying to discourage you, we certainly need more tracks and it is the dream of most riders. I have been involved in running a club track (free land, donated machine hours and man hours) and it did well on race day, but wouldn't support a family.

Having gone to school for ski resort management and been in/out/around the moto industry all of my adult life, I can tell you that these types of businesses hope to break even on the riding aspect and make their money on food/beverage/real estate. Unless you are near a major mx community, SoCal being the top, it is hard to do I wouldn't consider a track in the boonies if you are planning to live off of the income, has to be near a city. You may also consider the land value for down the road, if/when you decide to sell. That might be the only way you end up in the black on the deal.

Have you thought about a moto community? Something akin to a ski resort, or golf club? Imo that model is long overdue and would work in the right location. I am not talking about training facility model, but something a step above.

Regardless, best of luck and enjoy the experience, nothing better than pushing dirt around to make a track!

mister2dt wrote:
We had a similar idea about 10 years ago. Bought 300 acres. Started the track layout and neighbors broke in, got our diesel tank unlocked and...
We had a similar idea about 10 years ago. Bought 300 acres. Started the track layout and neighbors broke in, got our diesel tank unlocked and burned every oiece of equipment to the ground. $300k in heavy machines. Our plan was to build onsite storage facilities, a wash paddock, laundry room and a mechanics area with 10 bays. $200 a month, store your bike and gear in the facility, wrench on it, buy your gas, everything onsite.
That's a heartbreaking story M2D, sorry to hear that. They never caught the culprits? "woke" fasicst liberals if I had to venture a guess.

Seems like between all of the like minded folks on here that a moto country club should be possible. If we could get say 20 people to buy in at $ xxx,xxx it could happen. I personally like your concept, but would like to see it taken the next step so that I could live track side.
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I applaud ANYONE with the moxy to consider purchasing a track in today's environmental and political climate.
I guess I've gotten too old but having thought about things like this in the past (when environmental and political climates were not nearly as intrusive) it is refreshing to hear of ambitious young guys who still willing to take a chance to push the sport forward.
Consider the ever-increasing cost of insurance, required onsite medical personnel, weather concerns, future considerations about combustion engines, etc.
You really need to spend some time thinking about ALL costs to include dirt moving equipment, insurance to cover the equipment, google current DIESEL fuel costs, crazy municipalities, and zoning issues.
The list goes on.
Let's face it, moto is an inherently dangerous sport, with an exceptionally high cost of entry (bikes, gear, maintenance).
The future of moto as I see it.....WILL change. The question is....can we live with AND embrace these changes.
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4/1/2021 1:44pm
BonglorD wrote:
I applaud ANYONE with the moxy to consider purchasing a track in today's environmental and political climate. I guess I've gotten too old but having thought...
I applaud ANYONE with the moxy to consider purchasing a track in today's environmental and political climate.
I guess I've gotten too old but having thought about things like this in the past (when environmental and political climates were not nearly as intrusive) it is refreshing to hear of ambitious young guys who still willing to take a chance to push the sport forward.
Consider the ever-increasing cost of insurance, required onsite medical personnel, weather concerns, future considerations about combustion engines, etc.
You really need to spend some time thinking about ALL costs to include dirt moving equipment, insurance to cover the equipment, google current DIESEL fuel costs, crazy municipalities, and zoning issues.
The list goes on.
Let's face it, moto is an inherently dangerous sport, with an exceptionally high cost of entry (bikes, gear, maintenance).
The future of moto as I see it.....WILL change. The question is....can we live with AND embrace these changes.
Adapt and overcome. Some of the bs is to a lesser extent down south thats where we are focusing. I know a couple tracks where I am from that do pretty good considering they are only open 8-9 months out of the year.
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4/1/2021 1:45pm
BonglorD wrote:
I applaud ANYONE with the moxy to consider purchasing a track in today's environmental and political climate. I guess I've gotten too old but having thought...
I applaud ANYONE with the moxy to consider purchasing a track in today's environmental and political climate.
I guess I've gotten too old but having thought about things like this in the past (when environmental and political climates were not nearly as intrusive) it is refreshing to hear of ambitious young guys who still willing to take a chance to push the sport forward.
Consider the ever-increasing cost of insurance, required onsite medical personnel, weather concerns, future considerations about combustion engines, etc.
You really need to spend some time thinking about ALL costs to include dirt moving equipment, insurance to cover the equipment, google current DIESEL fuel costs, crazy municipalities, and zoning issues.
The list goes on.
Let's face it, moto is an inherently dangerous sport, with an exceptionally high cost of entry (bikes, gear, maintenance).
The future of moto as I see it.....WILL change. The question is....can we live with AND embrace these changes.
BTW thank you

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