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I will say this tho... I do find it ironic that the two dudes who literally manage to bounce off of and/or hit just about every thing and everyone on the track during a race managed to find each other for the first time. I can’t recall a time where barcia and Friese found each other on the track..
He got the blue flag multiple times and was already lapped by 2 other riders. There was a battle happening around him but he wasn't in it. Move over and let the fast guys go through then continue on. Tickle did it, 7 other riders before him did it, he didn't. Not for the first time, not even for the first time this week.
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It was one of three potentially race ending big mistakes he made. Hitting Roczen on lap 1 in a last lap style lunge🤡, running off the track when Webb zapped,🤣 and failing to execute on Vince.💩
So, during the main event, we watched from our seats near the finish line, and of course paid close attention when the Four Oh went rolling past.
I saw Friese look at a blue flag, swivel his head around, make eye contact with Roczen/Webb/Barcia, and promptly get on the gas in the racing line on MULTIPLE occasions. I bet you can see it on the TV coverage. They went 4 wide across the finish line at one point.
He knows exactly what he’s doing. Or not doing I should say. Yes, the rule book does explicitly state a lapped rider shown the blue flag is to get out of the racing line.
Watching the race in person gives a much better perspective than does watching on TV.
Friese is choosing to race the race leaders when he’s being lapped. There’s no place for that.
Ask yourself.
Have the AMA ever fined, black flagged or otherwise sanctioned Vince.?
Is it a motocross race?
Barcia Liberaced Vince.
Friese should be pissed. He did have a good long look as he came around :-) :-)
wish i sucked as bad as some of you guys make him out to be!
Back when MCR was Vince and Alessi that was one helluva pairing of guys who love to race the leaders when getting lapped. Vegas 2016 in the mud, I remember both of this guys jacking with the leaders that night. Ridiculous.
There's little time life, he's hauling to better his race position and has tomac right on him, barcia will go the race line no matter what in that situation, it's up to the lapper to move the fuck away.
Yes, VF should've vacated the racing line. But he didn't. Did JB make the correct decision by jumping anyway? Clearly not.
Vince- get out of the way man!
Justin, for your own benefit, take more time and care around lappers!
At H3, Kenny didn't just ride in to Dean, did he?
Oh noes, Justins a coming wiv Eli in hot pursuit'.
"So what?" Vince is thinking.
Barcia has probably cleaned out #40 more than a couple of times and Vince owes him no particular favours.
Rule book doesn't specify that the rider "must" move or anything similar.
Rulebook basically says "If and when it's convenient," it doesn't say "must."
Yes, Vince should have moved, but he is also racing. How is he to know the guy in front of him is 1 lap or 20 laps down? The other guy is on the track and he's "going fast, I guess I need to beat him."
Now I don't know about y'all, and as mentioned elsewhere, I was taught to race everyone in front of me, no matter what place they're in.
It was a 90-degree turn on a jump. It was goat trailed into a single line, cutting across, straightening the 90º out....that was the line, there was no other line, other than cutting the track or stopping altogether.
Barcia just needed to check up for just a half second until after the turn. He chose to press it, going to the outside, running into Vince as he ran out of room. Video supports that.
As for Vince not knowing who was behind him; he knew exactly who it was, just as Wilson did. These guys are pros, even club riders track their position by glancing into the other lanes when entering and exiting corners and on straights.
Luckily it’s not long until the next round and we can move onto some other poor bastard.
But I'm just being picky, I def. don't disagree. I hear what you are saying and agree that everyone had some decisions that could've been better.
That means "do anything" because it's wildly subjective.
"Conditions didn't allow, I was racing the guy in front of me for position."
"He's a lap down from you."
"How do I know that?"
That really will be the conversation. If you want to blame the rulebook, I'll be right there with you in agreement. But "When conditions allow" might as well as say "when convenient."
And yes, Vince should have moved, and his reply will be "I was racing, conditions didn't allow it."
Any lapper can say that.
Blame the rulebook
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The conditions allowed him to stay inside on that corner, out of the racing line, just as the rule book states. Friese choose not to do that.
And that is the problem, riders know they can ignore those rules without any reaction from the AMA.
I'm with you, should have moved. But by the rules, he could just say he was racing and it didn't allow.
Also, "That corner didn't allow, I planned to move after that single line turn, I didn't want to be trapped, I was racing 722"
"722 was a lap down from you"
"I didn't know that at the time"
You can't climb into a rider's brain. When you make it subjective, then it's just a matter of how others see it.
It is not a clear "Must move over within 3 turns" or something like that. Plus, how do you write that rule? I have no clue at the moment. Within 200 yards?
It's a rulebook issue
Least, in my opinion
Carry on...
He slowed right down and corrected and ended up in the center lane about 2 bike widths from his original line..
No one with Frieze's experience and ability is going to deliberately cause a mid air collision.
It's probably lucky for Vince that he appears to have touched down when Barcia hit him.
I've been lapped a few times in World Superbike racing, if you try and get out of the way you take more riders out, hold your line, much faster riders know where you're going to be and can easily get around you.
Wankers without experience always blame lapped riders.
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