Langston Vs Matthes

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UpTiTe wrote:
So, this is like the third thread about something a motocrosser said that pissed someone off, stupid. In case the majority of you easily offended softies...
So, this is like the third thread about something a motocrosser said that pissed someone off, stupid.

In case the majority of you easily offended softies don’t know this, factory riders are not robots, they have feelings, emotions, and opinions and are entitled to speak up about it.

I hate to break most of your soft hearts, but the majority of factory riders are conservative and dislike the way lefties think, while the majority of the people who report on the sport are lefties who dislike Trump. Let’s be honest, GL wasn’t far off telling Tapia he’s an idiot for not having insurance and let’s be even more honest, if he was an average Joe, you’d all think he was stupid for not having insurance. But you won’t admit it because the majority of you are to busy gargling on Mathes and his crews balls.

Here’s a thought, until you grow some thicker skin and are able to just shake your head at someone’s stupidity, unfollow them instead of acting like a scorned teenaged girl. Or should I say teenage boy, because they all seem to be weaker and softer than most teenaged girls.
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Hes honost and he knows what he's talking about.
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I met GL at the airport last year making my way back to the east coast. He was on his way to WW and took the time to chat with me and shoot the crap when he didn't have to. Seemed like a nice guy to me.

The dude said it how it is. Maybe he's a little brash and "insensitive" in his approach, but he says it how it is, nonetheless.

I read a couple of comments on this thread stating that the US is the only first world country where health insurance isn't considered a right. That may be true and the legitimacy of whether or not it should be is up for debate. All of us on opposite ends of the political spectrum should be able to discuss that in a mature and respectful manner.

Having said that, not a single person that rides dirt bikes in America is unaware that you have to pay for your own health insurance. If you want to rock and roll, then you have to pay the toll.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
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numbers wrote:
Hes honost and he knows what he's talking about.
I'm sure he is honest.
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Ever since GL gave that interview where he talks about “smashing pussy” and it became sound drops seems like he’s been salty at Pulp. Tony Alessi...
Ever since GL gave that interview where he talks about “smashing pussy” and it became sound drops seems like he’s been salty at Pulp.


Tony Alessi got over it.
When you drink 40 Red Bull vodkas and puke in Keefer's truck..
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if a pro cant afford all of his expenses incluiding taxes and insurance he shouldnt be doing it, just like any other job.

regarding Matthes and GL. both put cool shows and i listen both of them.
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Haven't read the whole thread but below video was referenced in some of the twitter chats. Go to roughly 3:34.00 and listen for a jab at Steve. Oddly it actually starts with Dehoop and the jab is very fair.

https://youtu.be/_5HtWQDJ1ZA

Anyways, me personally I couldn't care less what these guys say or think of each other or how their opinions differ from mine.
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Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and...
Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and surgeons when it comes to serious injury’s you would be fucked!
An absolute resounding yes to your question. As for your unintelligible follow-up sentence, which I think I get the gist of...but don't agree with. I just don't see any future doctors saying, "The profession I want to follow is fucked up, but I'm going to get into it anyway, and when I'm not happy with anything about it, I'll just ignore my hippocratic oath and do shitty surgical work...and I'm not worried about being terminated or losing business because nobody cares if I'm a "shit doctor".
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UpTiTe wrote:
So, this is like the third thread about something a motocrosser said that pissed someone off, stupid. In case the majority of you easily offended softies...
So, this is like the third thread about something a motocrosser said that pissed someone off, stupid.

In case the majority of you easily offended softies don’t know this, factory riders are not robots, they have feelings, emotions, and opinions and are entitled to speak up about it.

I hate to break most of your soft hearts, but the majority of factory riders are conservative and dislike the way lefties think, while the majority of the people who report on the sport are lefties who dislike Trump. Let’s be honest, GL wasn’t far off telling Tapia he’s an idiot for not having insurance and let’s be even more honest, if he was an average Joe, you’d all think he was stupid for not having insurance. But you won’t admit it because the majority of you are to busy gargling on Mathes and his crews balls.

Here’s a thought, until you grow some thicker skin and are able to just shake your head at someone’s stupidity, unfollow them instead of acting like a scorned teenaged girl. Or should I say teenage boy, because they all seem to be weaker and softer than most teenaged girls.
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numbers wrote:
Hes honost and he knows what he's talking about.
he also sounds like a easily offended, scorned, teenage girl....
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Hmmm - Couple Aussies mouthing off about Saffa's on Vital. This offseason is short, but still too long apparently. There there, maybe you lot will lift...
Hmmm - Couple Aussies mouthing off about Saffa's on Vital. This offseason is short, but still too long apparently. There there, maybe you lot will lift the Webb Ellis in 2023 Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
As long as you guys turn up that time ,
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Love that GL is taking a shot at Matthes for talking about politics, when GL's whole Instagram page is full of ridiculous misogynistic shots at Pelosi and Kamala.

Also, what the hell does Tapia having insurance have to do with the argument? Tapia said he doesn't agree with Steve's politics but thinks he's a good guy. Insurance has nothing to do with whether Steve is a good guy for raising the money.

I know GL grew up in a time where his government was turning a blind eye and letting townships burn themselves to the ground, but maybe he can pull his head out of his ass for a minute and analyze how he looks here. I love his announcing in the nationals, but it's getting really hard to like him for anything else.
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numbers wrote:
Hes honost and he knows what he's talking about.
Motoxdoc wrote:
he also sounds like a easily offended, scorned, teenage girl....
If you knew uptite you'd think differently. Sure looks as if your panties got twisted.
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Motoxdoc wrote:
I like em both, but IMO, Matthes is king of moto media, fair and balanced, "reasonable and nice"...and, in fact, 80,000,000 people think he's on the...
I like em both, but IMO, Matthes is king of moto media, fair and balanced, "reasonable and nice"...and, in fact, 80,000,000 people think he's on the correct side of political history. I'm just sayin......
Go ahead, stir it up in here why don’t you... Woohoo Pinch Dry
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11/26/2020 8:59am Edited Date/Time 11/26/2020 9:01am
GL wasn't wrong. Riders should carry insurance. However, Tapia was just extending some gratitude towards Matthes for helping out. Plus, Tapia is currently going through some pretty tough rehabilitation, so I think GL's comments were inconsiderate and not well timed.

It's too bad some here have taken that and made disparaging comments about entire classes of people, and have also decided to shit on individuals along the way.

Hoping for the best for Tapia as he continues to recover.
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Americans watching a good AUS/SA/CAN Battle Royale on Vital.

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I think GL deleted most of his posts. Twitter and alcohol ammirite? Nobody's perfect. Can we just get back to talking about winning races and crushing pussy now?

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#434 wrote:
Sure, there are countries. Here in Germany e.g. you can get hurt doing whatever and your health insurance will pay. Call me dumb or a commie...
Sure, there are countries. Here in Germany e.g. you can get hurt doing whatever and your health insurance will pay.
Call me dumb or a commie, but some form of basic national health insurance is a human right.
To be honest, racing without any insurance is dumb and irresponsible towards your loved ones. So I agree with GL, but his timing was bad, no question. And hats off to Steve for raising the money.
I wish Tapia all the best for his recovery!
Francis377 wrote:
Health insurance in Germany is not a right but an obligation. Meaning, anyone that has a monthly income of more than 450€ or is older than...
Health insurance in Germany is not a right but an obligation. Meaning, anyone that has a monthly income of more than 450€ or is older than 25 has to pay for it. If you’re unemployed it will come off the top of your benefits. Not to get too far off topic but if you do ride motocross in Germany I would suggest you buy accident insurance because the health insurance will only the cover the absolute minimum for rescue and initially putting you back together. Nothing for any income you may lose after the accident because your unable to continue work in your learned profession.
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I didn't say it's a right in Germany. It's my opinion that basic health insurance is a human right. If your unemployed the german state covers...
I didn't say it's a right in Germany. It's my opinion that basic health insurance is a human right.

If your unemployed the german state covers your health insurance. In general the accident insurance pays if you crash riding, it only doesn't pay if you crash racing (and it's not too expensive to upgrade that it pays there as well). At least mine does.
So...do you consider a mandatory payment a right? With this mentality, no wonder rights and freedoms are quickly evaporating in Germany.
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GL wasn't wrong. Riders should carry insurance. However, Tapia was just extending some gratitude towards Matthes for helping out. Plus, Tapia is currently going through some...
GL wasn't wrong. Riders should carry insurance. However, Tapia was just extending some gratitude towards Matthes for helping out. Plus, Tapia is currently going through some pretty tough rehabilitation, so I think GL's comments were inconsiderate and not well timed.

It's too bad some here have taken that and made disparaging comments about entire classes of people, and have also decided to shit on individuals along the way.

Hoping for the best for Tapia as he continues to recover.
He was wrong according to tapia on him having insurance

On the general point , he was right. In the USA or any other country I was in . I would never ride with our insurance that had mx covered , I’m glad we have a national accident insurance here
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Do you guys know what hypocrite means. Your actions ripping Grant is no different than what you say he did.
No one should race or ride a street, dirt or dual sport without a helmet, safety gear or mainly insurance.
I have dealt first hand with hurt riders and want no help because of insurance and 6 months later they are still jacked up trying to ride.
I have known Grant for over 10 years and have raced against him the last couple years and dealt with him business wise for Glen Helen and he is first class business and personally and the B S flows and no ego.
I can bet the majority of you go off what you read or hear. Try getting to know people before judging them. I thought I did not like Matthes but in time I understand him way better but he is who he is and he has an amazing kind side.
Enjoy Thanksgiving and respect people for their opinions right or wrong because none of us are perfect.
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Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and...
Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and surgeons when it comes to serious injury’s you would be fucked!
Motoxdoc wrote:
An absolute resounding yes to your question. As for your unintelligible follow-up sentence, which I think I get the gist of...but don't agree with. I just...
An absolute resounding yes to your question. As for your unintelligible follow-up sentence, which I think I get the gist of...but don't agree with. I just don't see any future doctors saying, "The profession I want to follow is fucked up, but I'm going to get into it anyway, and when I'm not happy with anything about it, I'll just ignore my hippocratic oath and do shitty surgical work...and I'm not worried about being terminated or losing business because nobody cares if I'm a "shit doctor".
You obviously never lived under a socialized medicine regime. Ignorance is bliss, I guess!
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Americans watching a good AUS/SA/CAN Battle Royale on Vital. [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/93/fa/ce93fa7c2318af944aad3a9ce97dca33.gif[/img]
Americans watching a good AUS/SA/CAN Battle Royale on Vital.

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11/26/2020 9:26am Edited Date/Time 11/26/2020 9:31am
UpTiTe wrote:
So, this is like the third thread about something a motocrosser said that pissed someone off, stupid. In case the majority of you easily offended softies...
So, this is like the third thread about something a motocrosser said that pissed someone off, stupid.

In case the majority of you easily offended softies don’t know this, factory riders are not robots, they have feelings, emotions, and opinions and are entitled to speak up about it.

I hate to break most of your soft hearts, but the majority of factory riders are conservative and dislike the way lefties think, while the majority of the people who report on the sport are lefties who dislike Trump. Let’s be honest, GL wasn’t far off telling Tapia he’s an idiot for not having insurance and let’s be even more honest, if he was an average Joe, you’d all think he was stupid for not having insurance. But you won’t admit it because the majority of you are to busy gargling on Mathes and his crews balls.

Here’s a thought, until you grow some thicker skin and are able to just shake your head at someone’s stupidity, unfollow them instead of acting like a scorned teenaged girl. Or should I say teenage boy, because they all seem to be weaker and softer than most teenaged girls.
Well said. Tevin was irresponsible not having insurance and sounds like it wasn't the first time he wasn't covered properly. Is it sad and do I feel terrible for the injuries he sustained? Yes. Is it awesome seeing him fight through it and working hard to get better? Absolutely. Was GL's timing and platform good? No. Does that change that he should have had insurance? Nope. Personal responsibility is the key. If he couldn't afford it, time to stop riding moto and find a job that provides it or allows him to afford it..

This is the definition of the issues we have in business, social media, and now almost every situation. If you don't dance around the truth and pat everyone on the head you are deemed insensitive, racist, or whatever the flavor of the day is.
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Mr. Info wrote:
Do you guys know what hypocrite means. Your actions ripping Grant is no different than what you say he did. No one should race or ride...
Do you guys know what hypocrite means. Your actions ripping Grant is no different than what you say he did.
No one should race or ride a street, dirt or dual sport without a helmet, safety gear or mainly insurance.
I have dealt first hand with hurt riders and want no help because of insurance and 6 months later they are still jacked up trying to ride.
I have known Grant for over 10 years and have raced against him the last couple years and dealt with him business wise for Glen Helen and he is first class business and personally and the B S flows and no ego.
I can bet the majority of you go off what you read or hear. Try getting to know people before judging them. I thought I did not like Matthes but in time I understand him way better but he is who he is and he has an amazing kind side.
Enjoy Thanksgiving and respect people for their opinions right or wrong because none of us are perfect.
So we need to respect people for their opinions but yet can't express our own opinion on it?
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Did you guys all forget that Ping used to talk mad shit about vital almost daily? On his old racer x videos before he got canned, and even during his early WT podcasts.. he stopped up until guyb gave him the job here at vital. ( does anyone even bother to read his ask ping segment?)

Seems kinda lame to talk mad shit on a community for years then somehow gets hired working for the forum and depends on our views and clicks to pay the bills.

Ping got canned from Racer X so I’m sure that doesn’t help his little man syndrome and having to be cordial with PulpMX since Steve is obviously involved over there.

What could have been if that frame didn’t snap...
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Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and...
Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and surgeons when it comes to serious injury’s you would be fucked!
Motoxdoc wrote:
An absolute resounding yes to your question. As for your unintelligible follow-up sentence, which I think I get the gist of...but don't agree with. I just...
An absolute resounding yes to your question. As for your unintelligible follow-up sentence, which I think I get the gist of...but don't agree with. I just don't see any future doctors saying, "The profession I want to follow is fucked up, but I'm going to get into it anyway, and when I'm not happy with anything about it, I'll just ignore my hippocratic oath and do shitty surgical work...and I'm not worried about being terminated or losing business because nobody cares if I'm a "shit doctor".
Do you know the special name they have for the person who graduates last in medical school?
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I just wanna hear the motocross stuff.
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Did you guys all forget that Ping used to talk mad shit about vital almost daily? On his old racer x videos before he got canned...
Did you guys all forget that Ping used to talk mad shit about vital almost daily? On his old racer x videos before he got canned, and even during his early WT podcasts.. he stopped up until guyb gave him the job here at vital. ( does anyone even bother to read his ask ping segment?)

Seems kinda lame to talk mad shit on a community for years then somehow gets hired working for the forum and depends on our views and clicks to pay the bills.

Ping got canned from Racer X so I’m sure that doesn’t help his little man syndrome and having to be cordial with PulpMX since Steve is obviously involved over there.

What could have been if that frame didn’t snap...
To be fair, I don't think he's wrong about this forum. It's a bit of a mess most of the time, but it's entertainment and we all enjoy it.

Some guys don't understand how this place works. You have to have a thick skin, and it takes A LOT of reading between the lines. When guys like Ping or Larryb show up, it usually ends with a lot of hurt feelings lol, but it's fun non the less!

Ping is unique. I enjoy almost all of what he puts out. His career in "moto media" literally started with him talking shit, so it shouldn't be a huge surprise when he says the stuff he says. He's good entertainment to me, as is Steve and GL.
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Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and...
Do you think someone who is serious about racing motocross wants to go to some socialized government run hospital? That will probably have shit doctors and surgeons when it comes to serious injury’s you would be fucked!
Motoxdoc wrote:
An absolute resounding yes to your question. As for your unintelligible follow-up sentence, which I think I get the gist of...but don't agree with. I just...
An absolute resounding yes to your question. As for your unintelligible follow-up sentence, which I think I get the gist of...but don't agree with. I just don't see any future doctors saying, "The profession I want to follow is fucked up, but I'm going to get into it anyway, and when I'm not happy with anything about it, I'll just ignore my hippocratic oath and do shitty surgical work...and I'm not worried about being terminated or losing business because nobody cares if I'm a "shit doctor".
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Do you know the special name they have for the person who graduates last in medical school?
A Doctor.
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Meh......I’m still good with both shows. Whiskey Throttle is great content. I love it. I also love all things Matthes. The amount of content available makes us the winners in this whole deal. It’s freaking amazing compared to when I was a kid and the only MOTO content was the magazines. I think there was a phone number that you could call for results at some point (it cost money to make the call). Matthes is a Howard Stern guy (sounds like he listens to Stern and holds him in high regard). That style of show lends itself for going after the competition and controversy amongst the media.

The insurance situation in our country is off. I personally saw the system fail when I had insurance, got hurt, then had to fight to get them to pay because the insurance company was working a loophole. Anything we are willing to do to help Tapia is a good thing and what makes our motocross community awesome. We look out for our own as much as possible. There is some shady shit going on with insurance that I hope you all don’t have to see. Sometimes the system just fails....it’s never going to be perfect
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Americans watching a good AUS/SA/CAN Battle Royale on Vital. [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/93/fa/ce93fa7c2318af944aad3a9ce97dca33.gif[/img]
Americans watching a good AUS/SA/CAN Battle Royale on Vital.

The colonials arguing is funny. I thought that it was common knowledge that the British are the biggest arseholes in the world.
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