Cooper Webb doesn't care about your feelings Bubba

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Are all of the #IStandWithBubba people gonna keep standing with someone who #IWon’tBeAManAndStandForTheTruth?

I forgot about the race Monday with the rain delay so I looked for results yesterday and of course there was more coverage of Bubba than the race itself. I hadn’t heard about what was going on until then, so I clicked on the video of the drivers and teams pushing the 43 to the front of the field idown pit road. That was great to see...until the real truth came out. By not apologizing, Bubba has taken a genuine heartfelt gesture from the NASCAR community and cheapened it to the point of making them look like tools. MLK preached to judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. We now know Bubba’s character. He took NASCAR for a ride along over the shark. I heard a black man on TV last night pose the question that “If America is so racist, then why did Jessie Smolett (sp?) have to hire two foreigners to enact a hate crime on himself?” Makes you go hmmm...
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TbonesPop wrote:
This whole situation spiraled out of control in the last 24 hours to the point where 15 FBI agents investigated it - that's how it looks...
This whole situation spiraled out of control in the last 24 hours to the point where 15 FBI agents investigated it - that's how it looks like the Smollett deal. You're telling me the race team didn't know the difference between a rope that was used to open a garage door and an actual noose? This situation got spun up in the media, and a fair amount by Bubba. Ya, the more info that comes out, the more suspicious it looks.

Point being, situations like this take away from legitimate issues to resolve.
I agree....Bubba took full advantage of an opportunity to say poor me. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
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But it is only nascar

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I don't get it? Does this mean Cooper is a racist or not?
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bayodome wrote:
The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
How is it racism to ask that someone look at current facts and revise their take on a matter?
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6/24/2020 7:00am
bayodome wrote:
The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
Please point to the racism. Not agreeing with someone does not automatically suggest racism. Problem with today's world, you cannot disagree or try to use facts without being called a name. Are we perfect as a society no, but are we pretty great yes. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to sit here and have a forum on a professional sport. Some people in this world live in a country where they only dream of such luxuries, they are just trying to stay alive and eat.
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burn1986 wrote:
But it is only nascar
"Only Nascar"

You do realize even in it's current state Nascar is 100 times more followed than motocross of any kind and does have it's foot in the door with the MSM.
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It was an actual noose. The garage door rope was tied in a hangman's knot. It was just done years ago and not targeted at the...
It was an actual noose. The garage door rope was tied in a hangman's knot. It was just done years ago and not targeted at the current occupant of the stall.
I have use both Noose Knots and Hangman’s Knots and Gallows Knots (three different knots) as utility knots my whole life. They're very strong and useful. Hope no one happens to run across one of them and gets triggered.
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Bubba needs to own up to his "mistake" and quit playing victim. Bubba is the joke of the internet now.
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Why is standing against racism such a problem?
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Why is standing against racism such a problem?
Who said standing against racism is such a problem?
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I personally have tied that particular knot probably 100 times in the past two weeks.
I wonder if the bass I just fried think I’m racist because I tied that super juicy green pumpkin 297 sinko on with that knot?
This whole nascar thing is now turned into Kneeling Nfl, times 1000. How crappy of a world are we living in man.
I’ll bet without social media and newsgroups telling you how to feel and how to hate we would be a little happier every day.
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6/24/2020 7:51am
mx317 wrote:
Bubba needs to own up to his "mistake" and quit playing victim. Bubba is the joke of the internet now.
The interesting development is as of last night, people in Bubba's camp were covering for him by saying that Bubba had not actually seen the noose, just heard about it and he based his follow up actions/responses from what he was told - not what he had seen. That had given him a pseudo out from his actions after the FBI investigation shined light on what the noose actually was. Now, this morning Bubba has doubled down that he saw pictures of "the noose" and he still believes in how he responded - despite video and photographic evidence along with 15 FBI agents showing up and investigating the incident.

Again, the whole situation has turned into a Jerry Springer show. Again, point being is it detracts from legitimate issues when they happen. The dude should just own it and go back to racing cars professionally.

The response from Nascar and fellow drivers has been the bright spot in this incident IMO.
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6/24/2020 7:57am
Reason number 453821012 of why i dont like Webb
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bayodome wrote:
The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
I don't keep up with Nascar literally at all so I never heard of Bubba Wallace or the noose incident at Talladega. I read up on what happened, and after reading all the replies here...I'm with you 100%. How can anyone be so blatantly ignorant and be so proud of it...Including Webb. Maybe they're not being indiscriminately racist here, but their ignorance is making them take up stances that impede the fight against racism. It's an absolute joke and embarrassment of character to be demanding a public apology from someone who thought they were defending themselves.

Point is, if it WAS a racist act, Bubba would have been 200% in the right to post what he did. Are we pretending like racism in Nascar or everywhere else in the world hasn't ever existed or still does? Really, you take one misunderstanding from someone and try to spin it like hes a disgraceful human being for speaking out against something as trivial as equal rights. Who faults anyone for that? Blows my mind.
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6/24/2020 8:05am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2020 8:06am
bayodome wrote:
The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
cpyz300 wrote:
I don't keep up with Nascar literally at all so I never heard of Bubba Wallace or the noose incident at Talladega. I read up on...
I don't keep up with Nascar literally at all so I never heard of Bubba Wallace or the noose incident at Talladega. I read up on what happened, and after reading all the replies here...I'm with you 100%. How can anyone be so blatantly ignorant and be so proud of it...Including Webb. Maybe they're not being indiscriminately racist here, but their ignorance is making them take up stances that impede the fight against racism. It's an absolute joke and embarrassment of character to be demanding a public apology from someone who thought they were defending themselves.

Point is, if it WAS a racist act, Bubba would have been 200% in the right to post what he did. Are we pretending like racism in Nascar or everywhere else in the world hasn't ever existed or still does? Really, you take one misunderstanding from someone and try to spin it like hes a disgraceful human being for speaking out against something as trivial as equal rights. Who faults anyone for that? Blows my mind.
Point is, it WAS NOT a racist act. It was a damn garage door pull down rope that had been there at least since 2019.
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bayodome wrote:
The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
cpyz300 wrote:
I don't keep up with Nascar literally at all so I never heard of Bubba Wallace or the noose incident at Talladega. I read up on...
I don't keep up with Nascar literally at all so I never heard of Bubba Wallace or the noose incident at Talladega. I read up on what happened, and after reading all the replies here...I'm with you 100%. How can anyone be so blatantly ignorant and be so proud of it...Including Webb. Maybe they're not being indiscriminately racist here, but their ignorance is making them take up stances that impede the fight against racism. It's an absolute joke and embarrassment of character to be demanding a public apology from someone who thought they were defending themselves.

Point is, if it WAS a racist act, Bubba would have been 200% in the right to post what he did. Are we pretending like racism in Nascar or everywhere else in the world hasn't ever existed or still does? Really, you take one misunderstanding from someone and try to spin it like hes a disgraceful human being for speaking out against something as trivial as equal rights. Who faults anyone for that? Blows my mind.
mx317 wrote:
Point is, it WAS NOT a racist act. It was a damn garage door pull down rope that had been there at least since 2019.
Yes I read the story and am aware. Did you read anything else? Who does Bubba owe an apology to??? White people?
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bayodome wrote:
The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
cpyz300 wrote:
I don't keep up with Nascar literally at all so I never heard of Bubba Wallace or the noose incident at Talladega. I read up on...
I don't keep up with Nascar literally at all so I never heard of Bubba Wallace or the noose incident at Talladega. I read up on what happened, and after reading all the replies here...I'm with you 100%. How can anyone be so blatantly ignorant and be so proud of it...Including Webb. Maybe they're not being indiscriminately racist here, but their ignorance is making them take up stances that impede the fight against racism. It's an absolute joke and embarrassment of character to be demanding a public apology from someone who thought they were defending themselves.

Point is, if it WAS a racist act, Bubba would have been 200% in the right to post what he did. Are we pretending like racism in Nascar or everywhere else in the world hasn't ever existed or still does? Really, you take one misunderstanding from someone and try to spin it like hes a disgraceful human being for speaking out against something as trivial as equal rights. Who faults anyone for that? Blows my mind.
mx317 wrote:
Point is, it WAS NOT a racist act. It was a damn garage door pull down rope that had been there at least since 2019.
So therefore Wallace hasn’t experienced racism?

And it’s a negative to stand against it?
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6/24/2020 8:12am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2020 8:14am
You guys have whipped yourselves into a right proper frenzy here.

Keep posting. This dumpster fire helps make moderating members easy.
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GuyB wrote:
You guys have whipped yourselves into a right proper frenzy here.

Keep posting. This dumpster fire helps make moderating members easy.
It’s clearly a real issue.

People don’t trust the media and this didn’t help and racisms existence aren’t mutually exclusive.

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People who have literally nothing to do with anything are demanding an apology...
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GuyB wrote:
You guys have whipped yourselves into a right proper frenzy here.

Keep posting. This dumpster fire helps make moderating members easy.
isnt this non moto?
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If it was a stationary knot, then it was an overreaction, obviously.

If it slipped, like a noose, then it at least deserved to be looked into. I have a loop in my garage door rope, but it doesn't slip like a noose because I want to pull the door down, not tighten the rope around my hand.

If it was a solid knot, I'm glad. It'd be terrible if someone did actually make a true "noose" in that situation.
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GuyB wrote:
You guys have whipped yourselves into a right proper frenzy here.

Keep posting. This dumpster fire helps make moderating members easy.
I know I've gotten caught up in the fervor and what is going on in the world makes it hard to think straight sometimes. In hindsight it seems this thread should have been shot out of a cannon into the dumbgeon from the get go.
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Reputation is TRARNSHED
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Why aren’t people just glad this seems to be a mistake? Why the hostility towards Wallace? Do folks think he doesn’t have to deal with racism continually? Where’s the hostility towards the other divers, industry people, who also spoke out and denounced the incident? Do they need to apologize too?
Why would anyone feel they need an apology?
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bayodome wrote:
The level of unabashed racism on this forum no longer surprises me yet always upsets and disappoints me.
You see what you want to see. Not being able to comment on actions of another human being for fear of having the racist card thrown at them is no better than an actual person making a racist comment. The least racist people I know are usually the ones not afraid to call bullshit when it's there, irregardless of race. Truth is, Bubba Wallace is in NASCAR and living a life he did not legitimately earn because of the color of his skin. NASCAR made a marketing move with their Drive for Diversity program and it has bitten them in the butt. I have no problem with what they did, too bad they didn't do something to help Wendell Scott, a driver who legitimately had the talent to be a champion 50 plus years ago. I did not vote for him but was not disappointed when Barrack Obama was elected because I thought it would finally put the last nail in the "America is Racist" movement, a battle cry that had grown weaker and weaker during my lifetime. I was happy that friends of mine would have something to point to that said "things have gotten better during my lifetime, my children and grandchildren have something to look at to see that they can achieve anything". But it wasn't to be, he was not proof the American dream was attainable to everyone no matter the color of their skin. He was simply a tool of the far left which has been trying to tear this country apart for 100 years. Barrack Obama said in 2008 that he was going to fundamentally change America, I didn't realize how successful he had been in doing that until the last few months. I don't know that change is a good word but he certainly turned back the clock 50 years, that's what upsets and disappoints me. Stepping off soapbox, sorry GuyB for starting this, but SX is over and it shouldn't have been a surprise. Out.
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6/24/2020 9:24am
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Sometimes it's just best to keep your mouth shut. Looking at you, Mr. Webb.
disagree.

there was an attempt at race baiting and everyone fell for it. there should be an apology, but there won't be.

good on Webb, a well known sports figure, for calling it out.
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