Suzuki, Suzuki, Suzuki

Edited Date/Time 11/9/2022 8:51pm
Looking for some actual, intelligent insight. I think it would be absolutely horrible for the sport to lose a bike brand and the number of Suzuki riders at the pro ranks is dismal. Interesting enough it seems as though in the amateur setting there is a pretty decent number of yellow machines. Is it simply rider results, or lack there of, that is leading to such a bad rep? Is it the bikes with the lack of e-start and oversprung stock suspension? Poor factory support? No big brand energy drink sponsorship? Looking back, Suzuki has a large list of riders finding lots of success on their bikes. What happened?
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Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125 a 250 or 500 lightweight sport bike and some UTVs those things sell like hot cakes

I think Kawasaki will be bigger than Honda soon I've been super happy with my ninja and kx and they have some cool bikes right now
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Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
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spimx wrote:
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125...
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125 a 250 or 500 lightweight sport bike and some UTVs those things sell like hot cakes

I think Kawasaki will be bigger than Honda soon I've been super happy with my ninja and kx and they have some cool bikes right now
Wink Several people conspired and stole a bunch of money from them. Those peeps are going to jail!


And I agree; they need a better Entry-level sportbike (the GSX250R needs 50 more CCs and they also need a 500). And for God's sake, build a side by side!
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Falcon wrote:
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where...
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
It will be a sad day for the sport if Suzuki pulls the plug.

...and yet, there are those "fans" who are dancing around the death watch. Mind boggling.

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Falcon wrote:
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where...
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
They've been spending a lot in MotoGP and having some decent success. Seems maybe the priority for corporate has shifted.
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Their participation in professional racing comes down to budgets. Riders get contingency for riding certain motorcycles, and Suzuki is not paying anyone other than the teams they directly support. Would be terrible for our sport to loose any brand. They are struggling with new product development and that new Katana is not going to drive revenue for them. There only hope a this point would be to double down in the Side by Side world and make a vehicle worthy of that market.
6/16/2020 9:26am
Falcon wrote:
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where...
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
Okay, follow up question. Do you think if they did quit racing SX/MX, that they would continue to build an off road dirt bike? Just leave it unchanged for years and years but keep producing? Or do you think it would be no more producing dirt bikes period and pour the money into a different segment.
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RR61114 wrote:
Their participation in professional racing comes down to budgets. Riders get contingency for riding certain motorcycles, and Suzuki is not paying anyone other than the teams...
Their participation in professional racing comes down to budgets. Riders get contingency for riding certain motorcycles, and Suzuki is not paying anyone other than the teams they directly support. Would be terrible for our sport to loose any brand. They are struggling with new product development and that new Katana is not going to drive revenue for them. There only hope a this point would be to double down in the Side by Side world and make a vehicle worthy of that market.
Suzuki has the best contingency of all mfg's.
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spimx wrote:
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125...
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125 a 250 or 500 lightweight sport bike and some UTVs those things sell like hot cakes

I think Kawasaki will be bigger than Honda soon I've been super happy with my ninja and kx and they have some cool bikes right now
Kawi is large, but nowhere compared to Honda. Suzuki is doing well overall with the automobiles in Europe. They decided to budget a specific route. They are not going anywhere hopefully In Mx and here’s to hoping they jump back in with a great new bike in the future
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Suzuki's marketing strategy is unique in that they get great television exposure during the LCQ with 3 to 4 riders vying for the transfer spots. Think about about how much yellow you see during that LCQ as opposed to the main event.
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Brands disappearing has happened many times in motocross. CZ, Maico, Husqvarna, Penton, Puch, DKW, Monarch, Sachs, ETC. Suzuki doesn't see a return on the cost of SX and MX racing or an impact on overall number of gross sales. Times change and so do consumer demands. If people were lining up to buy RMZ models Suzuki would invest in racing and development. Off road and motocross models represent the majority portion of total sales to KTM. Comparatively they represent very little to Suzuki. Honda sells a considerable amount of off road related models. There is also cross over to ATV sales from the promotion of SX and MX racing. Look at road racing in the US. It died out and barely survives today. Honda spends absolutely zero dollars on road racing in the US as it evidently has little effect on thier total USA Sales. Kawasaki pulled out. Yamaha and Suzuki spend almost nothing nothing on American road racing. Racing doesn't drive automotive and motorcycle sales significantly any longer.
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World wide the market for off-road bikes is not growing along with other markets , I would not be surprised if Suzuki pulls out of it completely
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Falcon wrote:
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where...
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
Okay, follow up question. Do you think if they did quit racing SX/MX, that they would continue to build an off road dirt bike? Just leave...
Okay, follow up question. Do you think if they did quit racing SX/MX, that they would continue to build an off road dirt bike? Just leave it unchanged for years and years but keep producing? Or do you think it would be no more producing dirt bikes period and pour the money into a different segment.
They would probably continue building and selling the existing models as long as it was profitable. That is, if they sold a thousand or so units per year. Much below that and I bet they would stop producing.
Another thing to note is that the US pro mx scene is only a fraction of the buying market for RM-Z models. They might contine to sell the existing machine to desert, woods, and play riders for a long time. Pulling out of pro racing might not matter that much with regard to production and sales.
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scott_nz wrote:
World wide the market for off-road bikes is not growing along with other markets , I would not be surprised if Suzuki pulls out of it...
World wide the market for off-road bikes is not growing along with other markets , I would not be surprised if Suzuki pulls out of it completely
Actually, off-road has absolutely exploded in the last 2-3 months. Kids' bikes especially. That's good news if the buyers keep riding, because they are almost all "new" purchasers.
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6/16/2020 12:48pm
Falcon wrote:
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where...
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
LumpDog841 wrote:
They've been spending a lot in MotoGP and having some decent success. Seems maybe the priority for corporate has shifted.
Seems like they were that way in the early 90’s before Roger D came on board, too. Decent 125 effort but 250 effort was lacking. Meanwhile their GSXR’s were mopping the floor with everyone in road racing.
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scott_nz wrote:
World wide the market for off-road bikes is not growing along with other markets , I would not be surprised if Suzuki pulls out of it...
World wide the market for off-road bikes is not growing along with other markets , I would not be surprised if Suzuki pulls out of it completely
Falcon wrote:
Actually, off-road has absolutely exploded in the last 2-3 months. Kids' bikes especially. That's good news if the buyers keep riding, because they are almost all...
Actually, off-road has absolutely exploded in the last 2-3 months. Kids' bikes especially. That's good news if the buyers keep riding, because they are almost all "new" purchasers.
I am sure if this is a long term shift Suzuki will start spending money on development again, and you will see more tracks opening up.

Other than fixing the valving and spring rate on the 250 and the rear shock on the 450 is there anything they really need to do that will make the average rider faster on a Suzuki than they would be on a Honda/Kawi/YZ, etc? They could probably put electric start on the 450 right now (RMX450 had it) but it might add 8 lbs to the heaviest bike on the market. To add it and control weight is expensive and they might not feel the investment is worth it. Suzuki even had RMZ250s for sale in Australia with the GET wifi ECU on it. That is something they should have done in the US market yesterday and they already developed it.
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6/16/2020 1:02pm
scott_nz wrote:
World wide the market for off-road bikes is not growing along with other markets , I would not be surprised if Suzuki pulls out of it...
World wide the market for off-road bikes is not growing along with other markets , I would not be surprised if Suzuki pulls out of it completely
Falcon wrote:
Actually, off-road has absolutely exploded in the last 2-3 months. Kids' bikes especially. That's good news if the buyers keep riding, because they are almost all...
Actually, off-road has absolutely exploded in the last 2-3 months. Kids' bikes especially. That's good news if the buyers keep riding, because they are almost all "new" purchasers.
wrc777 wrote:
I am sure if this is a long term shift Suzuki will start spending money on development again, and you will see more tracks opening up...
I am sure if this is a long term shift Suzuki will start spending money on development again, and you will see more tracks opening up.

Other than fixing the valving and spring rate on the 250 and the rear shock on the 450 is there anything they really need to do that will make the average rider faster on a Suzuki than they would be on a Honda/Kawi/YZ, etc? They could probably put electric start on the 450 right now (RMX450 had it) but it might add 8 lbs to the heaviest bike on the market. To add it and control weight is expensive and they might not feel the investment is worth it. Suzuki even had RMZ250s for sale in Australia with the GET wifi ECU on it. That is something they should have done in the US market yesterday and they already developed it.
I mean how much faster can someone really be with a stock bike that comes with a couple extra horsepowers?

And don’t give me the pro bullshit because we all know pros are going to build the engine, and if you’re building the engine, then you can get the horsepower you need out of this engine, like you can the other ones.

So aside from suspension, what is there to change? Keep the Kickstarter to cut costs and offer a “different” bike; start a new marketing agenda, and I know this is very wishful, but make a 125 2 stroke, market it towards beginners, and boom, you’ve rebuilt the brand.
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Falcon wrote:
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where...
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
LOL... seriously? Do you think mx/sx is the biggest motorcycle racing sport? They have an extremely competitive bike in Motogp, the biggest and most prestigious form of motorcycle racing. They beat honda/ducati/yamaha/ktm straight up last year. Just because you don't see the bike winning in SX "oh the suzuki is trash" Have you ridden the new yellow machine? Probably not..
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As ridiculous as this may sound, but could someone or company potentially 'buyout' the company to get it going again? Yes I am aware that would quite a bit of $$$ to do so. But if a 'buyer' can re-develop the brand and make that commitment, we could see a resurgence.
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6/16/2020 1:23pm
Well if they pull out the 7 guys on Suzuki's in the 450 LCQ every week will need to find new bikes
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MXATC wrote:
As ridiculous as this may sound, but could someone or company potentially 'buyout' the company to get it going again? Yes I am aware that would...
As ridiculous as this may sound, but could someone or company potentially 'buyout' the company to get it going again? Yes I am aware that would quite a bit of $$$ to do so. But if a 'buyer' can re-develop the brand and make that commitment, we could see a resurgence.
There is nothing wrong with Suzuki. They are a very large profitable company with good sales world wide. Dirt bikes are meaningless to their continued sucess. KTM builds Dirtbikes and small streetbikes for sale in the third world. Thats the focus of thier endeavor at this point. Suzuki builds automobiles, street motorcycles, marine engines. Thier doing very well at it. KTM wants to get where Suzuki is at now. Markets change. Consumers change with the times. Economics change and dictate what a business must produce.
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Falcon wrote:
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where...
Suzuki has not decided to continue investing heavily in motorcycle racing in the US (and elsewhere). It is their prerogative to spend their marketing dollars where they feel it is best served, and why not? When you think about it, they make more money on their marine engines each year than they probably have on MX bikes in the last 40 years.

Because there is less support at the top, there are fewer pros pursuing careers on Suzukis. Simple economics. If you could ride for Smart Top and make more than you could on JGR, wouldn't you ride a Honda? (I'm not saying that's what is happening, but I would not be surprised to hear that Malcolm Stewart makes more than Broc Tickle.) For privateers, there are likely better platforms out there to earn money.

The state of the stock bike is another example of how SMC has prioritized other bikes over the MX models. They could certainly have built an electric start into the 2018s, but why? If it costs them an additional half million dollars but will only bring in $400,000, it isn't worth the expenditure.

I think it's possible that Suzuki will stop racing MX/SX, but I think it's just as possible that they will finally develop a world-beating machine and hire some top guns. All it takes is the right corporate structure, and they change those guys every 4 years or so.
skeef wrote:
LOL... seriously? Do you think mx/sx is the biggest motorcycle racing sport? They have an extremely competitive bike in Motogp, the biggest and most prestigious form...
LOL... seriously? Do you think mx/sx is the biggest motorcycle racing sport? They have an extremely competitive bike in Motogp, the biggest and most prestigious form of motorcycle racing. They beat honda/ducati/yamaha/ktm straight up last year. Just because you don't see the bike winning in SX "oh the suzuki is trash" Have you ridden the new yellow machine? Probably not..
I think you and I are making the same argument.
MX/SX is definitely not the largest racing segment, and I recently rode a new 2019 RM-Z450. It was a fine machine. Not my style (I hate 4-strokes,) but fine nonetheless.
My belief is that, for whatever reason, Suzuki has decided not to be competitive in MX for the moment. Like I said, they may pull out completely or they may decide to go all-in and start winning again. Much of that decision rests in the lap of the executives at SMC and SMAI, who may or may not care.
6/16/2020 1:40pm
If they made a 110, they would have sold a pile of them in the last couple months.
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I found it interesting at one of the Salt Lake rounds the had the Suzuki zip line cam or whatever it’s called, not much in the way of yellow bikes out there but obviously putting up some money to sponsor that feature.
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spimx wrote:
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125...
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125 a 250 or 500 lightweight sport bike and some UTVs those things sell like hot cakes

I think Kawasaki will be bigger than Honda soon I've been super happy with my ninja and kx and they have some cool bikes right now
Zycki11 wrote:
Kawi is large, but nowhere compared to Honda. Suzuki is doing well overall with the automobiles in Europe. They decided to budget a specific route. They...
Kawi is large, but nowhere compared to Honda. Suzuki is doing well overall with the automobiles in Europe. They decided to budget a specific route. They are not going anywhere hopefully In Mx and here’s to hoping they jump back in with a great new bike in the future
I'm pretty sure KHI is already quite a bit larger than Honda.
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spimx wrote:
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125...
Some lady stole a bunch of money from them and they lack progress in the 450 and 250 MX bikes, they should have made a 125 a 250 or 500 lightweight sport bike and some UTVs those things sell like hot cakes

I think Kawasaki will be bigger than Honda soon I've been super happy with my ninja and kx and they have some cool bikes right now
Zycki11 wrote:
Kawi is large, but nowhere compared to Honda. Suzuki is doing well overall with the automobiles in Europe. They decided to budget a specific route. They...
Kawi is large, but nowhere compared to Honda. Suzuki is doing well overall with the automobiles in Europe. They decided to budget a specific route. They are not going anywhere hopefully In Mx and here’s to hoping they jump back in with a great new bike in the future
mx216 wrote:
I'm pretty sure KHI is already quite a bit larger than Honda.
KHI builds the ships that bring the Hondas over from Japan, and the trains that bring Honda’s employees to work.
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KHI builds the ships that bring the Hondas over from Japan, and the trains that bring Honda’s employees to work.
And some of the engine that powers the planes that fly them round.
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Suzuki has lost their way. They haven't made a side by side, they don't have any new atvs and although they owned the sport bike market it has never come back like it was before 2009. Bonnie Mullions, Suzuki accounting department long time employee, allegedly embezzled millions of dollars and the last I saw had charges filed against her. It is really sad.

I think the fact that their car division did so poorly and the company filed bankruptcy in the US and did away with selling cars in the US was a big part of the problem.

Suzuki is a major player in other markets. One can only hope they can get back to their former glory.

Motogp does seem to be the bright spot with good results and good riders.
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I love the random made up facts,
Suzuki has made more money selling copper washers in Bolivia in the last ten minutes than they’ve made selling dirt bikes since the birth of Jesus 😂
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Zycki11 wrote:
Kawi is large, but nowhere compared to Honda. Suzuki is doing well overall with the automobiles in Europe. They decided to budget a specific route. They...
Kawi is large, but nowhere compared to Honda. Suzuki is doing well overall with the automobiles in Europe. They decided to budget a specific route. They are not going anywhere hopefully In Mx and here’s to hoping they jump back in with a great new bike in the future
mx216 wrote:
I'm pretty sure KHI is already quite a bit larger than Honda.
KHI builds the ships that bring the Hondas over from Japan, and the trains that bring Honda’s employees to work.
Exactly my point Smile

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