Roczen Observation

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Spudinki45 6/5/2020 8:49am
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Honestly feel bad for Kenny, looking at his early lap timrd he obviously isn't just making excuses. His immune system and body must be just shot after his injuries first his illness last year and now this asthma.
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Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
Kenny was very fast tonight, until he hit a wall. That's got to be so deflating knowing he had the setup and speed to battle for...
Kenny was very fast tonight, until he hit a wall. That's got to be so deflating knowing he had the setup and speed to battle for the win but couldn't get enough oxygen into the lungs.
You have insider info or what? Asthma it is...

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Bidirella 6/5/2020 9:19am
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Bummer he is and will be never the same again after everything what happend in the past.

Big respect to him for still pushing hard and going after championships. But honestly with everything coming up and unknown stuff for him I don’t see it happening honestly. Outdoors gonna be even tougher.

Sadly enough i don’t see this problem change in a few days for himSad
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Racer111 6/5/2020 9:19am
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kiwifan wrote:
I have no idea if the mapping would of made a difference, but you thought it was an 'excuse'
kpiper wrote:
Kenny tossed it out there as an excuse for why he did not win. He just got more tired than Eli and CW did. That is...
Kenny tossed it out there as an excuse for why he did not win. He just got more tired than Eli and CW did. That is what happened.

Plus, Eli is faster than Kenny on the majority of tracks. He has proven that many times. Kenny has a hard time saying that fact.

What I am interested in though is this next race. Will Kenny's almost big crash be in his head? What do you think?
kiwifan wrote:
He got asked a question, he gave a reply, you interpreted that as an excuse....let's be clear there What rider admits another rider is faster on...
He got asked a question, he gave a reply, you interpreted that as an excuse....let's be clear there

What rider admits another rider is faster on some tracks? Why would you expect him to say that, does Eli say Kenny is fast on tracks he is not fast on???

No idea, I doubt it though.
A lot of riders admit it at times. I’ve heard Ricky, Reed, Dungey........on the podium say so and so was just faster than I was today.....Where have you been?
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Racer111 6/5/2020 9:22am
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qontusolsson wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/06/05/431199/s1200_Screenshot_20200605_123421_2.jpg[/img]

I hope the night they made this baby that the mapping was right and no one got arm pump halfway through it.
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MotoMan12345 6/5/2020 9:33am
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Kenny’s still the man!! He’s definitely growing the sport for us with his media presence and attitude.
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MX304 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/06/05/431211/s1200_ken.jpg[/img]

He may have had COVID... we are still figuring out the permanent effects.
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brapgod69 6/5/2020 9:43am
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Every time he loses he has an excuse.. why didn’t he say something when he was winning?
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MX304 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/06/05/431211/s1200_ken.jpg[/img]

Tenacious P wrote:
He may have had COVID... we are still figuring out the permanent effects.
I can’t imagine he hasn’t gotten antibody tested. There are lots of viruses that can seriously mess you up if they manifest in just the right way. A friend of mine nearly died last year after a rhinovirus affected her heart and lungs. She now has permanent heart damage.
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ATKpilot99 6/5/2020 10:38am
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brapgod69 wrote:
Every time he loses he has an excuse.. why didn’t he say something when he was winning?
It's not hard to believe in this case . His lap times dropped off a cliff. He didn't just forget how to ride half way through the main so this explanation makes sense.
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rmaso20 6/5/2020 10:58am
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If he gets the hole shot and runs away Sunday I'll call B.S. But if he does have an issue these are the circumstances that would cause it to pop up.
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beamer 6/5/2020 11:18am
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Asthma and high altitude, double whammy
jorgechavez 6/5/2020 11:20am
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teamddr wrote:
Agreed, At last some logic applied to the myth. I am going to be very honest which entails being cruel. Kenny is damaged but let’s not...
Agreed, At last some logic applied to the myth. I am going to be very honest which entails being cruel. Kenny is damaged but let’s not hope beyond repair. He has had to adapt his riding to suit his wrist and maybe that is contributing more arm pump. He’s a shadow of the rider he was pre 17 and we might not see that guy again. We see glimpses but that’s it. It’s a pity because at some stage Tomac is gonna Tomac but KR just can’t get his mojo working for full motos so he can take advantage. My two cents
So much for your arm pump theory huh Silly
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kpiper 6/5/2020 12:50pm
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Kenny gets very cool weather this Sunday which will help him a lot.

I don't know why so many get upset at the idea he may not be in as good of shape as Eli, Cooper and even Zacko.

It is just the truth. I bet ET, CW and ZO work harder than he does to be in shape and it shows.

BB and Dean are clearly not in as good of race condition as Eli and Cooper either.
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dawidslaby767 6/5/2020 11:12pm
6/5/2020 11:12pm
It may very well have another disease that has asthma-like symptoms and is not at all. I am currently struggling with such a thing, the results are as if I had asthma but it is not asthma, doctors have neurological suspicions but I am waiting for further tests
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kiwifan 6/5/2020 11:42pm
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kpiper wrote:
Kenny tossed it out there as an excuse for why he did not win. He just got more tired than Eli and CW did. That is...
Kenny tossed it out there as an excuse for why he did not win. He just got more tired than Eli and CW did. That is what happened.

Plus, Eli is faster than Kenny on the majority of tracks. He has proven that many times. Kenny has a hard time saying that fact.

What I am interested in though is this next race. Will Kenny's almost big crash be in his head? What do you think?
kiwifan wrote:
He got asked a question, he gave a reply, you interpreted that as an excuse....let's be clear there What rider admits another rider is faster on...
He got asked a question, he gave a reply, you interpreted that as an excuse....let's be clear there

What rider admits another rider is faster on some tracks? Why would you expect him to say that, does Eli say Kenny is fast on tracks he is not fast on???

No idea, I doubt it though.
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A lot of riders admit it at times. I’ve heard Ricky, Reed, Dungey........on the podium say so and so was just faster than I was today.....Where...
A lot of riders admit it at times. I’ve heard Ricky, Reed, Dungey........on the podium say so and so was just faster than I was today.....Where have you been?
At times....and i am sure if i went through replays Kenny has as well...feel free to prove me wrong.

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kiwifan 6/5/2020 11:46pm
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kpiper wrote:
Kenny gets very cool weather this Sunday which will help him a lot. I don't know why so many get upset at the idea he may...
Kenny gets very cool weather this Sunday which will help him a lot.

I don't know why so many get upset at the idea he may not be in as good of shape as Eli, Cooper and even Zacko.

It is just the truth. I bet ET, CW and ZO work harder than he does to be in shape and it shows.

BB and Dean are clearly not in as good of race condition as Eli and Cooper either.
its the truth???????? how the fuck do you know if ET, CW and ZO work harder than he does, I certainly do not, please provide us with evidence of this to enlighten us all....thanks
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
It's not hard to believe in this case . His lap times dropped off a cliff. He didn't just forget how to ride half way through...
It's not hard to believe in this case . His lap times dropped off a cliff. He didn't just forget how to ride half way through the main so this explanation makes sense.
His lap times dropped off cliff at the same time his main rival for the championship blew past him. It also makes sense he had a mental meltdown at the realisation any chance of winning the championship was slipping further away from him.
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quadzrulebro 6/6/2020 5:39am
6/6/2020 5:39am
I’m a fan of Ken, but my money says it will be a long and miserable summer for him. I just don’t think his body is up to the task at this point. Paging Aldon...
Toofastbroo 6/7/2020 2:55am
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I was watching monster cup 2016 last night he clearly still has a problem that roczen would have wrapped this championship up by now he was a different level to all of these before his injury just go watch some races before you say anything diffrent because it's stupid if you think otherwise
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I’m a fan of Ken, but my money says it will be a long and miserable summer for him. I just don’t think his body is...
I’m a fan of Ken, but my money says it will be a long and miserable summer for him. I just don’t think his body is up to the task at this point. Paging Aldon...
What would that guy do besides make it worse?
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brapgod69 wrote:
Every time he loses he has an excuse.. why didn’t he say something when he was winning?
When he win it's always him. When he lose it's never him.
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