Did Jeremy Martin really go home and not racing anymore SX

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Edited Date/Time 6/7/2020 9:35am
Seen Matthes and others post he may be done so he does not point out.
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aeffertz 6/5/2020 12:54pm
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Well he was at the airport for the press conference so I’m assuming he’s done racing SX this year.
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MZ193 6/5/2020 1:04pm
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Jeremy martin has won two outdoor titles in the 250.
Why didn't he get a 450 ride?
The dude seemed badass to me, also a funny guy.
His brother must be a good dude also.
Did i miss something?
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MZ193 wrote:
Jeremy martin has won two outdoor titles in the 250. Why didn't he get a 450 ride? The dude seemed badass to me, also a funny...
Jeremy martin has won two outdoor titles in the 250.
Why didn't he get a 450 ride?
The dude seemed badass to me, also a funny guy.
His brother must be a good dude also.
Did i miss something?
Honda threw money at him to win a championship on the CRF250, promising a path to a 450 ride, then he got hurt. Then Sexton came along.
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2nd at Daytona on a 450 a few years back, he'll get a 450 ride.
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Time is not on his side in either class, but if that's what has to happen for him to keep a paying job, I'm all for it.

As long as he was off, it's amazing how far he has made it back.
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MZ193 6/5/2020 1:22pm
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How old is he?
EDIT omg he is 27 as tomac is.
Too late to become a multi 450 champion. Sad but that's my opinion
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scott_nz 6/5/2020 1:51pm
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If his team is allowing it , you would be stupid not to stay down and earn at least 4 x the salary and have more chances at win and podium bonuses ,
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GhostofGrapeApe 6/5/2020 2:10pm
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I thought he was going to RCH full time 450, and got screwed when they folded and had to take whatever was available. No?
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I don't know if it has anything to do with his back, but that was an incredible comeback no matter what happens going forward. I'm hoping he's still in for MX,
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Brad460 6/5/2020 2:18pm
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MZ193 wrote:
How old is he?
EDIT omg he is 27 as tomac is.
Too late to become a multi 450 champion. Sad but that's my opinion
Does that go for Osborne too? (Isn’t he 30?) Might as well quit?
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2nd at Daytona on a 450 a few years back, he'll get a 450 ride.
Unfortunately is MX/SX. You are only as good as your last race. The ship has sailed for a high paid 450 ride in my opinion. As others state if staying in the 250 class allow him having a longer career with good paid, great for him.
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To my understanding from previous interviews, when he initially signed with Geico Honda, his contract was through HRC racing, believe he said one more year in the lites class and then he would move over to the 450 factory team. Obviously injuries have halted that and Honda believes he can win titles but with the stack of riders the team has and Mumford coming on board soon, they will surely have to cut a few guys at the end of the season?
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Alex.434 6/5/2020 2:36pm
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Man that 'pointing out' rule is really working out well. Few years ago McElrath sat early so he didn't point out. Now Martin.

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Alex.434 wrote:
Man that 'pointing out' rule is really working out well. Few years ago McElrath sat early so he didn't point out. Now Martin.

Yes, such a stupid rule. Just let anyone who wants to ride a 250 ride a 250.
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KX500 6/5/2020 3:27pm
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FerCzD wrote:
Unfortunately is MX/SX. You are only as good as your last race. The ship has sailed for a high paid 450 ride in my opinion. As...
Unfortunately is MX/SX. You are only as good as your last race. The ship has sailed for a high paid 450 ride in my opinion. As others state if staying in the 250 class allow him having a longer career with good paid, great for him.
Agree entirely. I really like both Martins - and if they become/are 250 specialists, so what? If that makes them more money, more power to both of them for staying on a 250.

We've already seen that the Yamaha 250F riders are faster than the 450F riders, right?

I can't blame anybody for racing in whatever category makes them the most money.

Who wouldn't?
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The split coast idea, l thought, was to lighten the expense and allow guys to enter in and get some experience before going full time on the bigger bikes. That was then, l don't think it worked out all that well.

The switch to four strokes blew that shit out of the water because the expense of racing a 250f over a 125 ts is significant. 250 SX class should be full time, every rider, every round, with no restrictions on age.

125 split coast series with a strict limit on time in class to reinstigate the original intent of the initial idea as a lower cost, less travel intro into SX racing. Plus it would kill the some of the ridiculous gaps in racing time during the night show.
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lostboy819 6/5/2020 3:52pm
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kpiper wrote:
Yes, such a stupid rule. Just let anyone who wants to ride a 250 ride a 250.
Amen !!!!
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The split coast idea, l thought, was to lighten the expense and allow guys to enter in and get some experience before going full time on...
The split coast idea, l thought, was to lighten the expense and allow guys to enter in and get some experience before going full time on the bigger bikes. That was then, l don't think it worked out all that well.

The switch to four strokes blew that shit out of the water because the expense of racing a 250f over a 125 ts is significant. 250 SX class should be full time, every rider, every round, with no restrictions on age.

125 split coast series with a strict limit on time in class to reinstigate the original intent of the initial idea as a lower cost, less travel intro into SX racing. Plus it would kill the some of the ridiculous gaps in racing time during the night show.
Yes exactly!
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kpiper wrote:
Yes, such a stupid rule. Just let anyone who wants to ride a 250 ride a 250.
lostboy819 wrote:
Amen !!!!
Thats funny, few years ago folks on here bitching about martin Davalos being in the LT weight class for so long. Now that it's a rider everyone likes the tables have turned.
It's a tough subject but needs review for sure.
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Alex.434 wrote:
Man that 'pointing out' rule is really working out well. Few years ago McElrath sat early so he didn't point out. Now Martin.

I'm not disagreeing about the rule but let's atleast be a little more factual. It was just this last year that Shane sat out so he wouldn't point it.
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Alex.434 wrote:
Man that 'pointing out' rule is really working out well. Few years ago McElrath sat early so he didn't point out. Now Martin.

kpiper wrote:
Yes, such a stupid rule. Just let anyone who wants to ride a 250 ride a 250.
Agree. The lights class and pointing out has run its course. If teams are allowing sitting out as to not not point out, that tells a story. If you can work your way around it (Marty, Mcelrath now Martin) the rule is pretty much useless.
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mb60 6/5/2020 4:37pm
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How about a rule of no one over 26. That gives you about 8 years to earn that 450 ride. Not hating on these guys but come on man. You are paid to ride not load up and go home.
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He was in the airport at the start of the Zoom presser, said he was picking someone up, then looked to be in a car afterwards so he is likely still in Utah.

This does not mean he is not going to take a dive to retain eligibility.
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mb60 wrote:
How about a rule of no one over 26. That gives you about 8 years to earn that 450 ride. Not hating on these guys but...
How about a rule of no one over 26. That gives you about 8 years to earn that 450 ride. Not hating on these guys but come on man. You are paid to ride not load up and go home.
If your employer is paying you to go home and wait for the Nationals,you go home and train for the Nationals.
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Ghostrider145 6/5/2020 5:23pm
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kpiper wrote:
Yes, such a stupid rule. Just let anyone who wants to ride a 250 ride a 250.
lostboy819 wrote:
Amen !!!!
MasonMan wrote:
Thats funny, few years ago folks on here bitching about martin Davalos being in the LT weight class for so long. Now that it's a rider...
Thats funny, few years ago folks on here bitching about martin Davalos being in the LT weight class for so long. Now that it's a rider everyone likes the tables have turned.
It's a tough subject but needs review for sure.
MD will always be the people’s 250 champ....

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Frank Tuesday 6/5/2020 5:37pm
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Alex.434 wrote:
Man that 'pointing out' rule is really working out well. Few years ago McElrath sat early so he didn't point out. Now Martin.

kpiper wrote:
Yes, such a stupid rule. Just let anyone who wants to ride a 250 ride a 250.
We need guys like Martin and McElrath in the 250 class. Everyone knows they are good. And teams need a reference for the young kids. When your second year rider is beating a very good 10th year rider, you know the youngster is going to be ready to move up in another year.
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Frank Tuesday 6/5/2020 5:39pm
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mb60 wrote:
How about a rule of no one over 26. That gives you about 8 years to earn that 450 ride. Not hating on these guys but...
How about a rule of no one over 26. That gives you about 8 years to earn that 450 ride. Not hating on these guys but come on man. You are paid to ride not load up and go home.
I'd rather just see a fixed number of total career points. When you hit 700 points, you can finish the season in 250, but have to race 450 from then on.
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Can’t really be mad at the guy. He missed over a year of racing due to a serious injury. I think him being held back for one more year is fine. But next year, he should be out regardless.
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mb60 wrote:
How about a rule of no one over 26. That gives you about 8 years to earn that 450 ride. Not hating on these guys but...
How about a rule of no one over 26. That gives you about 8 years to earn that 450 ride. Not hating on these guys but come on man. You are paid to ride not load up and go home.
neverwas wrote:
If your employer is paying you to go home and wait for the Nationals,you go home and train for the Nationals.
Not hating on J Mart but it's a broken rule that needs changed.
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dimetime wrote:
The split coast idea, l thought, was to lighten the expense and allow guys to enter in and get some experience before going full time on...
The split coast idea, l thought, was to lighten the expense and allow guys to enter in and get some experience before going full time on the bigger bikes. That was then, l don't think it worked out all that well.

The switch to four strokes blew that shit out of the water because the expense of racing a 250f over a 125 ts is significant. 250 SX class should be full time, every rider, every round, with no restrictions on age.

125 split coast series with a strict limit on time in class to reinstigate the original intent of the initial idea as a lower cost, less travel intro into SX racing. Plus it would kill the some of the ridiculous gaps in racing time during the night show.
I can't disagree with your proposal, but I think the logistics of squeezing in 125 races during the night show would be a problem. I don't think there would be any time left to prep the track for the 250/450 mains, and I'd rather not see the 450 guys getting hurt at an even higher rate because the tracks are completely blown out by the time their gate drops.

But, the middle hour of the current 3 hour broadcast is a snoozefest that needs to addressed. What I'd like to see is the east-west 125 races you propose happening on Friday. They could replay the 125 heats during Race Day Live (might need a new name though) then play the 125 main event during the middle hour dead spot. They could do 5 minutes of highlights of the 125 heats during the night show broadcast then replay the full 125 main event.

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