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Indian_Dunes_4ever wrote:
I went thru the drive-thru at McDonalds instead of going in today..... I'm safe.

GuyB wrote:
Except that you ate at McDonald's.
Indian_Dunes_4ever wrote:
Doc says it's good for me.... 3 squares a day. Wink
Must be building up your tolerances to something.
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XR75_Flamethrower 3/2/2020 12:08am
3/2/2020 12:08am Edited Date/Time 3/2/2020 12:23am
Racerman967 wrote:
This is another variation of the flu, Most of the deaths are people, like the flu, who have respiratory issues or issues with their immune system.
Solid source of virus info (purely medical facts / unbiased info) can be found here https://www.youtube.com/user/MEDCRAMvideos/videos
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KTMmarkus 3/2/2020 12:37am
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GuyB wrote:
Except that you ate at McDonald's.
Indian_Dunes_4ever wrote:
Doc says it's good for me.... 3 squares a day. Wink
GuyB wrote:
Must be building up your tolerances to something.
Yes it does, long life.
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Motofinne 3/2/2020 3:56am
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Thailand is also postponed as of now.

The MotoGP, F1 and MXGP schedule in 2020 will have a lot of changes. Pretty much all international sporting events are in danger.
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JMX82 3/2/2020 4:59am
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It doesn't look too good in Northern Italy:

"Over 1,600 infections in Italy, 41 dead, 798 in isolation, 639 hospitalized, 140 in intensive care, 83 recovered"
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Bobby is joshing but the official govt line is: Fake news, nothing worse than a common cold, we are safe, keep working and buying stuff. Don't...
Bobby is joshing but the official govt line is: Fake news, nothing worse than a common cold, we are safe, keep working and buying stuff. Don't let this turn "political". IDGAF which brand is in office. Say you are doing everything possible and will utilize all assets to minimize impact to the nation. I deal in the truth...not bullshit.
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This "virus" pales in comparison to the Ebola outbreak of a couple years ago. Respect the issue at hand, be smart, wash your hands, but don't...
This "virus" pales in comparison to the Ebola outbreak of a couple years ago. Respect the issue at hand, be smart, wash your hands, but don't fear it. The fear mongering is over the top.
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly 100% of cases, while people can carry and transmit the Coronavirus without exhibiting any symptoms and 2) Ebola’s concentration in West Africa made containment a bit easier.

Still, 2.5% mortality is significant, considering this year’s flu season has resulted in approximately 15000 deaths out of 26M cases (0.05%).
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Did you see on the news tonight all the people at Costco lined up buying bulk over fears of mass quarantines? It was on the local...
Did you see on the news tonight all the people at Costco lined up buying bulk over fears of mass quarantines? It was on the local ABC station tonight.
I went to Costco Saturday night , not thinking anything about it, and it was the busiest I've ever seen it
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Racerman967 wrote:
This is another variation of the flu, Most of the deaths are people, like the flu, who have respiratory issues or issues with their immune system.
Is this supposed to be comforting? The Spanish Flu had a mortality rate around 2.5% and it killed more people than WW1.
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MPJC 3/2/2020 6:31am
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plowboy wrote:
Bobby is joshing but the official govt line is: Fake news, nothing worse than a common cold, we are safe, keep working and buying stuff. Don't...
Bobby is joshing but the official govt line is: Fake news, nothing worse than a common cold, we are safe, keep working and buying stuff. Don't let this turn "political". IDGAF which brand is in office. Say you are doing everything possible and will utilize all assets to minimize impact to the nation. I deal in the truth...not bullshit.
TbonesPop wrote:
This "virus" pales in comparison to the Ebola outbreak of a couple years ago. Respect the issue at hand, be smart, wash your hands, but don't...
This "virus" pales in comparison to the Ebola outbreak of a couple years ago. Respect the issue at hand, be smart, wash your hands, but don't fear it. The fear mongering is over the top.
LoudLove wrote:
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly...
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly 100% of cases, while people can carry and transmit the Coronavirus without exhibiting any symptoms and 2) Ebola’s concentration in West Africa made containment a bit easier.

Still, 2.5% mortality is significant, considering this year’s flu season has resulted in approximately 15000 deaths out of 26M cases (0.05%).
Yes, it pales in mortality rate compared to Ebola, but a virus with a lower mortality rate that spreads more easily can be more deadly overall as there will be more cases. The importance of containing the spread until treatments and eventually a vaccine can be developed cannot be overstated.
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Bruce372 3/2/2020 6:42am
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Does CBD oil work against this virus?
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scootch 3/2/2020 6:44am
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even more ignorance in this thread LOL

Vital: Where moto dorks think they are doctors
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Does CBD oil work against this virus?
Only if taken as a suppository
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TbonesPop 3/2/2020 7:39am
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This "virus" pales in comparison to the Ebola outbreak of a couple years ago. Respect the issue at hand, be smart, wash your hands, but don't...
This "virus" pales in comparison to the Ebola outbreak of a couple years ago. Respect the issue at hand, be smart, wash your hands, but don't fear it. The fear mongering is over the top.
LoudLove wrote:
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly...
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly 100% of cases, while people can carry and transmit the Coronavirus without exhibiting any symptoms and 2) Ebola’s concentration in West Africa made containment a bit easier.

Still, 2.5% mortality is significant, considering this year’s flu season has resulted in approximately 15000 deaths out of 26M cases (0.05%).
MPJC wrote:
Yes, it pales in mortality rate compared to Ebola, but a virus with a lower mortality rate that spreads more easily can be more deadly overall...
Yes, it pales in mortality rate compared to Ebola, but a virus with a lower mortality rate that spreads more easily can be more deadly overall as there will be more cases. The importance of containing the spread until treatments and eventually a vaccine can be developed cannot be overstated.
The P&I mortality rate is 6.9% (pneumonia and influenza). https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 Look just below the two maps of the US in the middle under P&I mortality. If dying from the flu is 0.05%, then the risk of dying for pneumonia is WAY higher and a much greater risk than Coronavirus.

Also of note:
"Among 2,172 hospitalized adults with information on underlying medical conditions, 92.1% had at least one reported underlying medical condition, the most commonly reported were cardiovascular disease, metabolic disorder, obesity, and chronic lung disease. Among 397 hospitalized children with information on underlying medical conditions, 48.6% had at least one underlying medical condition; the most commonly reported was asthma."

My 74 year old neighbor and friend passed away from pneumonia yesterday.

While the issue should be taken seriously, there should not be panic. I've also seen where there are multiple vaccines already developed for it, but have not passed all the necessary channels approved for taking it to market.
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MPJC 3/2/2020 7:59am
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LoudLove wrote:
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly...
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly 100% of cases, while people can carry and transmit the Coronavirus without exhibiting any symptoms and 2) Ebola’s concentration in West Africa made containment a bit easier.

Still, 2.5% mortality is significant, considering this year’s flu season has resulted in approximately 15000 deaths out of 26M cases (0.05%).
MPJC wrote:
Yes, it pales in mortality rate compared to Ebola, but a virus with a lower mortality rate that spreads more easily can be more deadly overall...
Yes, it pales in mortality rate compared to Ebola, but a virus with a lower mortality rate that spreads more easily can be more deadly overall as there will be more cases. The importance of containing the spread until treatments and eventually a vaccine can be developed cannot be overstated.
TbonesPop wrote:
The P&I mortality rate is 6.9% ([u]pneumonia and influenza[/u]). https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 Look just below the two maps of the US in the middle under P&I mortality. If...
The P&I mortality rate is 6.9% (pneumonia and influenza). https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 Look just below the two maps of the US in the middle under P&I mortality. If dying from the flu is 0.05%, then the risk of dying for pneumonia is WAY higher and a much greater risk than Coronavirus.

Also of note:
"Among 2,172 hospitalized adults with information on underlying medical conditions, 92.1% had at least one reported underlying medical condition, the most commonly reported were cardiovascular disease, metabolic disorder, obesity, and chronic lung disease. Among 397 hospitalized children with information on underlying medical conditions, 48.6% had at least one underlying medical condition; the most commonly reported was asthma."

My 74 year old neighbor and friend passed away from pneumonia yesterday.

While the issue should be taken seriously, there should not be panic. I've also seen where there are multiple vaccines already developed for it, but have not passed all the necessary channels approved for taking it to market.
Nothing to disagree with in your post. I'm certainly not advocating panic, but rather, awareness that this has the potential to be serious so we should pay attention to what experts have to say and heed their advice.

Pneumonia is often a complication of other conditions (including influenza - even the common cold in some cases). I suspect that if cases of coronavirus increase, so would cases of pneumonia (I could be wrong about this).

Sorry to hear about your neighbor.
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So no one under 15 has been diagnosed and the median age for infection is 59 per NEJofM. If you are older or have arespiratory issue you are way more suseptable
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hillbilly 3/2/2020 8:36am
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Bruce372 wrote:
Does CBD oil work against this virus?
Moonshine,ain't nothing live in it

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Indian_Dunes_4ever 3/2/2020 8:40am
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Doc says it's good for me.... 3 squares a day. Wink
GuyB wrote:
Must be building up your tolerances to something.
KTMmarkus wrote:
Yes it does, long life.
I hope you all understood that my "driving thru and eating 3 McDs squares a day" comments were me being a smartass...

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I went to the gym this weekend.... It's been nice knowing you people.

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Racerman967 wrote:
So no one under 15 has been diagnosed and the median age for infection is 59 per NEJofM. If you are older or have arespiratory issue...
So no one under 15 has been diagnosed and the median age for infection is 59 per NEJofM. If you are older or have arespiratory issue you are way more suseptable
That's not true. There are 150 fifth graders quarantined at the moment in Finland due to one child having Coronavirus
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When they quarantine some one, what happens to the the job they have, the bills not getting paid, etc.. Who pays for the the person? Or is there some kind of "You cannot fire a person if they are quarantined?"
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Today the organisations of the roadcyclingraces Strade Bianche, Tirreno-Adriatico and Milan-Sanremo (al in northern Italy) confirmed the races will take place. That gives some hope that the MXGP of Trentino can go on as planned in the first weekend of April. A lot can happen in a month.
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D_L118 3/2/2020 10:44am
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Does anybody know the comparison with the mexican flu in ‘09? I can’t remember if it got the same attention in the media...
fatpurplepanda 3/2/2020 10:52am
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The global infection total for Coronavirus just topped 88,000 with just 3000 deaths, 3.4% fatality rate - most of which were immunocompromised. Last years death rate...
The global infection total for Coronavirus just topped 88,000 with just 3000 deaths, 3.4% fatality rate - most of which were immunocompromised. Last years death rate for pneumonia and influenza was 6.9%, nearly double that of the Coronavirus.

Oh, and I didn't get my stats from the mainstream media, I got it from www.cdc.gov
toroP wrote:
Mortality rate from flu is generally .1%.
That makes covid19 more than 30 times more deadly.
True, but cows kill 340% more people annually than sharks. What are more people scared of?

Sharks kill 5 and horses cows 22..stats can always be used to twist things
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Jeremy Macbeth 3/2/2020 10:55am
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fatpurplepanda wrote:
True, but cows kill 340% more people annually than sharks. What are more people scared of? Sharks kill 5 and horses cows 22..stats can always be...
True, but cows kill 340% more people annually than sharks. What are more people scared of?

Sharks kill 5 and horses cows 22..stats can always be used to twist things
With all these bovine related deaths, there really needs to be a Cow Week on Discovery Channel.
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D_L118 wrote:
Does anybody know the comparison with the mexican flu in ‘09? I can’t remember if it got the same attention in the media...
If you are talking about the pandemic H1N1 influenza of 2009, then this Covid-19 is worse statistically for mortality at this point though perhaps spreading a little less quickly. I forget the exact stats but H1N1 is effectively the same as other flu viruses in terms of mortality.

In terms of the big bicycle races in Italy going off, I'm pleased as a fan but I was pretty sure they would cancel them after the UAE Tour. I guess cycling is a bit different because the spectators are more spread out, not jammed into a stadium. I mean, the finish of Strade Bianche in Piazza del Campo in Siena would be full of people most days anyway, so it's really no different.

Just had a look for Seattle SX tickets and there are LOTS still available. The outbreak in Kirkland certainly isn't going to help.
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JMX82 3/2/2020 12:06pm
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I think it's highly possible that MXGP round in Trentino gets cancelled. The virus is spreading fast in Italy


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LoudLove wrote:
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly...
You are correct in that Ebola’s mortality approached 50%, while Coronavirus is closer to 2.5-3%. The differences are 1) Ebola’s symptoms were outwardly present in nearly 100% of cases, while people can carry and transmit the Coronavirus without exhibiting any symptoms and 2) Ebola’s concentration in West Africa made containment a bit easier.

Still, 2.5% mortality is significant, considering this year’s flu season has resulted in approximately 15000 deaths out of 26M cases (0.05%).
MPJC wrote:
Yes, it pales in mortality rate compared to Ebola, but a virus with a lower mortality rate that spreads more easily can be more deadly overall...
Yes, it pales in mortality rate compared to Ebola, but a virus with a lower mortality rate that spreads more easily can be more deadly overall as there will be more cases. The importance of containing the spread until treatments and eventually a vaccine can be developed cannot be overstated.
TbonesPop wrote:
The P&I mortality rate is 6.9% ([u]pneumonia and influenza[/u]). https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 Look just below the two maps of the US in the middle under P&I mortality. If...
The P&I mortality rate is 6.9% (pneumonia and influenza). https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 Look just below the two maps of the US in the middle under P&I mortality. If dying from the flu is 0.05%, then the risk of dying for pneumonia is WAY higher and a much greater risk than Coronavirus.

Also of note:
"Among 2,172 hospitalized adults with information on underlying medical conditions, 92.1% had at least one reported underlying medical condition, the most commonly reported were cardiovascular disease, metabolic disorder, obesity, and chronic lung disease. Among 397 hospitalized children with information on underlying medical conditions, 48.6% had at least one underlying medical condition; the most commonly reported was asthma."

My 74 year old neighbor and friend passed away from pneumonia yesterday.

While the issue should be taken seriously, there should not be panic. I've also seen where there are multiple vaccines already developed for it, but have not passed all the necessary channels approved for taking it to market.
You are misinterpreting that percentage.

The 6.9% isn’t figured the same way that they are using to determine mortality rate for this.

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JMX82 wrote:
I think it's highly possible that MXGP round in Trentino gets cancelled. The virus is spreading fast in Italy [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/03/02/408138/s1200_mappa_coronavirus_2020_03_02_ore_1800_open_1280x720.jpg[/img]
I think it's highly possible that MXGP round in Trentino gets cancelled. The virus is spreading fast in Italy


The culture of greetings in parts of Western Europe is really not helpful for containment. The kiss-on-the-cheek greeting needs to be eliminated....but culture and tradition is difficult thing to overcome. One has to think this is a contributing factor in the spread in Italy. Just like in Iran, where the culture of large groups eating together and sharing food is also not good for disease propagation.

But yeah, the MXGP in Trentino is looking shaky, though a lot can change in a month (for better or worse).
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