Ryan Breece Needs Money?

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haydos25 wrote:
Thats one way to look at it. The other is that FELD provide the platform, its up to the rider, the manufacturer, the team etc. to...
Thats one way to look at it.

The other is that FELD provide the platform, its up to the rider, the manufacturer, the team etc. to decide what they're going to do with it. I agree that an extra 5-10k for each of the top 22 would be good for the sport. I disagree with the ascertion that it is FELD's responsibility to provide that. Ryan Breece isnt providing any value or return on investment, he's asking for a handout. It may get him to the end of the year, but is it going to get him to the end of his career?

How much do you think FELD already cop up just to get the show on the road? Isn't it something like 18 trucks on the road each week just to move it around the country. That's a much riskier investment than anybody else in the sport, they deserve to make as much money as they can for that kind of risk.

Look at their profits..
haydos25 wrote:
What does that have to do with it? They're successful so they need to pay the successful tax? If they weren't making money then guys like...
What does that have to do with it? They're successful so they need to pay the successful tax? If they weren't making money then guys like Ryan Breece would be flipping burgers because you can guarantee that if FELD stop making money on supercross then they stop making supercross.

If privateers can't live off 2k a week for making a night show then they need to get faster, or get money elsewhere. My point is facebook panhandling isn't going to fix the issue.
Thats 34k in 18 weeks getting 22nd place each race just off the purse, add sponsorship to that and your at 40-50k or more in about 1/3 of the year. 59k is the average national household income for a whole year for the house.

Also i mean we're talking about last place at each and every race. Lets face it, if thats all youre going to do, there isnt boat loads of money waiting for you.
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haydos25 wrote:
I feel like this will not go well. Problem i see is the return on investment that he offers. How much would i be willing to...
I feel like this will not go well.

Problem i see is the return on investment that he offers. How much would i be willing to give him for a signed jersey in return. He's basically after a wealthy benefactor because any investor in his program isn't getting that money back. Probably also not getting a logo on his team bike, or his team jersey either.
I thought the same thing. At the very least throw your sad story out there and sell some T-shirts. Thats why I have so much respect for Dean Wilson because he put his money down on himself and sold some shirts to race money to go racing. He obviously has a bigger name but he also gave money back to other privateers because the sales did so well. Make it to where if someone donates a certain amount of money they can choose your butt patch and get that gear. There are many opportunities out there to probably raise more money and build your brand instead of saying I just set up a paypal.
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2/26/2020 6:20pm
Lol, a LitPro is a bare necessities?
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Lol, a LitPro is a bare necessities?
At that level yea.
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Racing is a fantasy lifestyle and not everybody is gonna make it. Come on down to the oil refinery, bring tools, alcoholism and some mild depression and we'll pay ya $2k/week.
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haydos25 wrote:
I feel like this will not go well. Problem i see is the return on investment that he offers. How much would i be willing to...
I feel like this will not go well.

Problem i see is the return on investment that he offers. How much would i be willing to give him for a signed jersey in return. He's basically after a wealthy benefactor because any investor in his program isn't getting that money back. Probably also not getting a logo on his team bike, or his team jersey either.
thall767 wrote:
I thought the same thing. At the very least throw your sad story out there and sell some T-shirts. Thats why I have so much respect...
I thought the same thing. At the very least throw your sad story out there and sell some T-shirts. Thats why I have so much respect for Dean Wilson because he put his money down on himself and sold some shirts to race money to go racing. He obviously has a bigger name but he also gave money back to other privateers because the sales did so well. Make it to where if someone donates a certain amount of money they can choose your butt patch and get that gear. There are many opportunities out there to probably raise more money and build your brand instead of saying I just set up a paypal.
Deano's not the only one either.

Look and Stankdog and his 2 stankin efforts. Aj Catanzaro sells sponsorship per round, Michael Leib does the same, 722 found his niche. Whats the common denominator here? They all had hustle, used the platform that FELD provided and gave back to the people who supported them.

Asking for money because you cant afford to race your dirt bike is ridiculous, and just because you're one of the fastest guys in the world at it doesnt make it any less ridiculous.
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2/26/2020 6:23pm
mwilcox349 wrote:
Lol, a LitPro is a bare necessities?
Did you read it? It’s his waaaay less expensive way of having someone coaching him.
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Here we have a guy who doesn't have a salary and is racing at the top level of our sport making main events in a completely...


Here we have a guy who doesn't have a salary and is racing at the top level of our sport making main events in a completely stacked 450 class. Do we all agree anyone who even qualifies for the night show should make more money? I would have to say most people will agree with that but they don't hardly make a thing. This just goes to show how broken the payout is for these guys so no I really don't mind Breece reaching out for help to make the best of his already stellar season. Let the guy try and hustle and help himself out.

I'm now going to go find this page and donate. Thank you for sharing.
So HEP Motorsports, the team he rides for pays him absolutely nothing?
He has zero income from gear, goggle, boots, or helmet sponsors?
If he has to wear team sponsored gear then he is definitely getting some kind of salary.
His litpro/mental coach consultation fees of $150/wk and personal trainer of $100/wk are not Absolutely so necessary that he cannot make the main without them I'm sorry but there's plenty of guys that don't have that stuff that can make the main plus hes doing very well as of late with his rides I think he got a 10th place in Arlington right?
He mentioned having to pay rent of $700 a month as part of his racing cost now I don't know how that's even remotely tied to racing cost that's just a sunk cost of living and at $700 a month assuming hes in California hes doing quite well for rent even for a bedroom that's pretty cheap.
I was going to comment on his Facebook post my silent but at the same time I'm sure way to many of his personal fans would not see it the same because they have rose colored glasses on however I find it hard to believe if he is on a keen please correct me if I'm wrong that he has to pay for all his fuel cost for the bike as well no that's probly practus fuel but again a team like HEP motorsports seems to be professional level enough that they could cover some of that cost as well
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2/26/2020 6:35pm
His estimates are very conservative compared to the true costs of racing at that level every weekend.

I’m sure he is paying for the “meat and potatoes” of his program with what he is making.

Those privateers in this category are lucky to make an equivalent salary of minimum wage over the course of a year.
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2/26/2020 6:54pm
Maybe this has something to do with his ride at HEP is coming to a end and he will be on his own ? I wonder if Suzuki pays as well for him making the main plus his purse money.
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2/26/2020 7:39pm
piscokid wrote:
Who?
Seriously, you must be too broke to pay attention.😁
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2/26/2020 7:44pm
mwilcox349 wrote:
Lol, a LitPro is a bare necessities?
Philly215 wrote:
At that level yea.
To be a top 20 rider in the world? Agreed, hell yes it is. To shave 0.1's of a second off on laps, you gotta know exactly where you are versus the competition. I feel bad for the guy. Wish I had coin to throw his way.
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Suck shit Breecey! It's Capitalism and if you can't swim Champ you better learn to breathe underwater. Seriously thats what quite a few are saying in...
Suck shit Breecey! It's Capitalism and if you can't swim Champ you better learn to breathe underwater.
Seriously thats what quite a few are saying in here! Umm aren't you fans of the sport? Or are you actually fans of Feld and that's why you're here. I bash Feld because they are greedy with their profits verse the Athletes.. Feld do a top notch job EXCEPT this. To agree doesn't meen your a socialist, communist or whatever. It's not like he's the first to plead the case. If a top 22 guy earnt 5-10k more from racing; Would that hurt anyone or actually benefit the sport?
So tell us how much Feld makes and/or should pay? Do you know? NO, you are just making assumptions because they are the "big" company. They are the promotor, not the employer of the riders. It is not their responsibility to pay privateers or anyone else. It is up to the teams who have sponsors for funding etc. They create the event, the platform, market it, plan it, and deliver it to all of us.....while creating opportunities for guys like Breece.

How much does the company you work for pay you vs. their profit? If you don't like it, find another job that sees you are more valuable than your current employer.
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Deano started out with a lot more $$ than Breece. I seriously doubts he has any cash paying boot/google/helmet/gear deals. It's probably free product that doesn't put gas in the bike or tires on the truck or a haircut or help with an insurance co-pay if he needed it.
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Just a question, I was looking to the price money. From when do the 250 riders get as much as the 450 riders?

PS: Feld puts every weekend 180 330 dollar on the line if I'm correct. But the sport seems to be growing, the stadiums seems to be as full as back in RC/Reed/Stew time so maybe its time to go towards the 200/250k but that won't solve all problems.
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2/26/2020 8:17pm
Sooooo, is Breece under the JGR tent soon or not??
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Sooooo, is Breece under the JGR tent soon or not??
Depends if his go fund me for plane tickets to North Carolina pays off i guess.
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2/26/2020 8:28pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2020 8:32pm
Suck shit Breecey! It's Capitalism and if you can't swim Champ you better learn to breathe underwater. Seriously thats what quite a few are saying in...
Suck shit Breecey! It's Capitalism and if you can't swim Champ you better learn to breathe underwater.
Seriously thats what quite a few are saying in here! Umm aren't you fans of the sport? Or are you actually fans of Feld and that's why you're here. I bash Feld because they are greedy with their profits verse the Athletes.. Feld do a top notch job EXCEPT this. To agree doesn't meen your a socialist, communist or whatever. It's not like he's the first to plead the case. If a top 22 guy earnt 5-10k more from racing; Would that hurt anyone or actually benefit the sport?
So tell us how much Feld makes and/or should pay? Do you know? NO, you are just making assumptions because they are the "big" company. They...
So tell us how much Feld makes and/or should pay? Do you know? NO, you are just making assumptions because they are the "big" company. They are the promotor, not the employer of the riders. It is not their responsibility to pay privateers or anyone else. It is up to the teams who have sponsors for funding etc. They create the event, the platform, market it, plan it, and deliver it to all of us.....while creating opportunities for guys like Breece.

How much does the company you work for pay you vs. their profit? If you don't like it, find another job that sees you are more valuable than your current employer.
I'm out! Cheers screw'em all. Lifes on the line for entertainment. Owners a billionaire and the prizemoney to profit is low compared to other sports. Rightio.
Edit for 8tensolutions. I'm a company director. My 11 employees are payed well. Ive had two go out in the last 2 years, only to come back as the grass wasn't greener. I value the ones who support me. I support them back because I'm pretty damn blessed tbh.
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I'm out! Cheers screw'em all. Lifes on the line for entertainment. Owners a billionaire and the prizemoney to profit is low compared to other sports. Rightio...
I'm out! Cheers screw'em all. Lifes on the line for entertainment. Owners a billionaire and the prizemoney to profit is low compared to other sports. Rightio.
Edit for 8tensolutions. I'm a company director. My 11 employees are payed well. Ive had two go out in the last 2 years, only to come back as the grass wasn't greener. I value the ones who support me. I support them back because I'm pretty damn blessed tbh.
More speculation without any data. Nice work.
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2/26/2020 8:34pm
Sooooo, is Breece under the JGR tent soon or not??
haydos25 wrote:
Depends if his go fund me for plane tickets to North Carolina pays off i guess.
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Its amazing that Ryan's motorcycle gets a lot more sympathy around here than he does.
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Suck shit Breecey! It's Capitalism and if you can't swim Champ you better learn to breathe underwater. Seriously thats what quite a few are saying in...
Suck shit Breecey! It's Capitalism and if you can't swim Champ you better learn to breathe underwater.
Seriously thats what quite a few are saying in here! Umm aren't you fans of the sport? Or are you actually fans of Feld and that's why you're here. I bash Feld because they are greedy with their profits verse the Athletes.. Feld do a top notch job EXCEPT this. To agree doesn't meen your a socialist, communist or whatever. It's not like he's the first to plead the case. If a top 22 guy earnt 5-10k more from racing; Would that hurt anyone or actually benefit the sport?
So tell us how much Feld makes and/or should pay? Do you know? NO, you are just making assumptions because they are the "big" company. They...
So tell us how much Feld makes and/or should pay? Do you know? NO, you are just making assumptions because they are the "big" company. They are the promotor, not the employer of the riders. It is not their responsibility to pay privateers or anyone else. It is up to the teams who have sponsors for funding etc. They create the event, the platform, market it, plan it, and deliver it to all of us.....while creating opportunities for guys like Breece.

How much does the company you work for pay you vs. their profit? If you don't like it, find another job that sees you are more valuable than your current employer.
I'm out! Cheers screw'em all. Lifes on the line for entertainment. Owners a billionaire and the prizemoney to profit is low compared to other sports. Rightio...
I'm out! Cheers screw'em all. Lifes on the line for entertainment. Owners a billionaire and the prizemoney to profit is low compared to other sports. Rightio.
Edit for 8tensolutions. I'm a company director. My 11 employees are payed well. Ive had two go out in the last 2 years, only to come back as the grass wasn't greener. I value the ones who support me. I support them back because I'm pretty damn blessed tbh.
Ryan Breece is free to go out if the grass is greener, as is every other rider that uses FELDS platform. But they continue to stay dont they.

Keep in mind the riders arent employed by FELD. They just use the platform they provide. What they do with that is up to them.
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2/26/2020 8:36pm
More speculation without any data. Nice work.
Don't feed the clowns. (not even giving him the privilege of "troll" status)
2/26/2020 9:16pm
mwilcox349 wrote:
Lol, a LitPro is a bare necessities?
Philly215 wrote:
At that level yea.
Tell that to literally every pro ever that didn't wear one. Is it a nice training device? I'm sure. But not a requirement. 3 of the next 4 races are covered stadiums so they won't work anyway.
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2/26/2020 9:29pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2020 9:29pm
Let's not be like Motogp where guys like Karel Abraham and their mega- millionaire dads buy the rides for their kids over more talented riders.
2/26/2020 9:38pm
If you love Supercross and have money to spare Ryan would be a worthy choice.
I am sure he would put your name somewhere on his bike or kit.
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i looked, but didn't find a gofundme.... ??

it's worth $20 just for that altercation with bowers at that euro race a few weeks ago Smile
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haydos25 wrote:
Thats one way to look at it. The other is that FELD provide the platform, its up to the rider, the manufacturer, the team etc. to...
Thats one way to look at it.

The other is that FELD provide the platform, its up to the rider, the manufacturer, the team etc. to decide what they're going to do with it. I agree that an extra 5-10k for each of the top 22 would be good for the sport. I disagree with the ascertion that it is FELD's responsibility to provide that. Ryan Breece isnt providing any value or return on investment, he's asking for a handout. It may get him to the end of the year, but is it going to get him to the end of his career?

How much do you think FELD already cop up just to get the show on the road? Isn't it something like 18 trucks on the road each week just to move it around the country. That's a much riskier investment than anybody else in the sport, they deserve to make as much money as they can for that kind of risk.

uh... jeez... if only there was a way, shape or form how to eliminate the risk and insure your potential losses...

i wonder...

but yeah hoarding money under the pillow sounds like a great bulletproof plan.
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2/27/2020 2:06am Edited Date/Time 2/27/2020 5:07am
It happened to me (Edit: in a different field). The winner takes all. You are "part of" an "elite", yet with all the expenses to be there and to be competitive you are actually paying to work 70 hours a week, with no future past a certain age and with lots of risk involved.

And then people wonder why parents don't want to bring their kids into the sport. Last but not least, $75 track fee is ridiculous, it is less than 10€ in europe; it is time we go back to a more natural and hard pack racing, so people stop asking the tracks to be riped and watered as much.

It is also the right time a media consortium emerges, coupled with a rider association (not union). I have always been surprised why the manufacturers are not stepping up to defend their market, they may not be aware of the issue. More % to the riders and the possibility to sell merchandise should not be hard to obtain. It is not like the stadiums were empty Wink

And here i prefer not even asking if he is covered by a personal insurance in case of a big injury like Moreau.
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