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If a newbie is thinking this they are themselves insane and bound to hurt themselves on a 450f or an XR70. What they need to learn the fundamentals and work up from there, not expect to be pro day 1.
While I agree bikes are getting to almost nutso power/speed levels that few people need I also feel the safety aspect is #1 on the operator. The bike only goes as fast as the right wrist allows.
1,000 TIMES AMEN!
What is this facination these days with restricting shit? Bike too powerful? Don't fucking buy it! Track too scary? Don't fucking ride it. Fixed the problem for ya.
Pit Row
And not that anything should be taken away, but I do think there should be more options.
I I Love Dirt bikes I have been an enthusiast for 30 years.
And I wish there were more options, I know Lots and lots of people that have quit, and lots that have got injured.
And again I'm not saying to take anything away.
Let people Go as big as they Wanna go.
But for people like me I wish there were some mellower options. like maybe a CR125 chassis with 150f motor.
Something that the average Guy could wring out, and still go to work on Monday. And not be tempted to go to Big because it is under powered and Slow.
Maybe Run them on half of the track, or a track within a track.
And it would be Excellent for older beginners also not everyone had parents that got them into it at a young age.
Sure you could Go By an XR100 and bring it to the local track now, since I know some of you will say that.
Yeah and get about 2 laps in if your lucky. And get lapped and be in the way.
And Yes you could Go the 125 route.
But for true beginners even 125's can be a challenge.
I have had 3 friends that didn't Ride start on 125's and Endo or Air wheelie every jump. 2 of them got hurt and quit. And one Raced one Race was the slowest guy on the track, got lapped and put his bike for sale the next week. His one race was at Sac Raceway on the Night track at a Friday night race. Which was awesome. If y'all ever get the chance it's a fun Race to do.
Anyway my Vote is More options are needed.
There are people that want to Ride and race Motocross
But Think the Current bikes used are Too Much.
Ride within your limit & the power is there for when it's needed
Once told by a GP dad only 2 riders were using the full potential of their bikes
I don't think we make everyone ride them !
but I wish the option was there, look at the 1970's they had much less horsepower running mostly air cooled bikes.
They had Classes for XR75's
And YZ100 Classes for adults.
And guys could wring them out and actually Race each other.
These Days the only Guys Wringing the bikes out are the Pro's and Maybe a coupe A class riders.
I know not everyone agrees and I'm fine with that but I can honestly say I would rather ride a slow bike fast. Than a fast bike slow.
If you go watch the average local class, you got guys doing four lap races on these Trick 8k bikes that maybe charge for a lap, than have their tongue hanging out for the next 3 laps and practically come to a stop in every corner to pivot lol.
They Should probably all be on 100's
Oh and Have y'all been to a Vintage race lately?
More riders on the gate there than most local races, and same for pit bike racing.
I don't think anyone goes to a race thinking I'm only gonna use half Throttle.
So instead they just don't Go, because they know that they have to work on Monday,
Here is the proof I put this Question up on Facebook yesterday and Got 250 replies in 8 hours and I read Every single one of them.
And the majority Quit because they got Injured,
some severely.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
I ride a YZ250 and wanted to try out the 4 strokes not having ridden one in a long time. So I started started on the 250f and it did have more than enough power but had to ride it pretty hard to go faster and it got me fatigued pretty fast, much like my YZ250. And didn't notice a huge power difference between the two either. The newer 250f wasn't far off. I left it on the "aggressive" map.
Next was the 450. I had only spun a couple laps on an 09 right around that year so I was nervous just at the idea of riding the bike having it been that long. The Yamaha tech said "it's on the more mellow map but you can switch to the aggressive while you're out there." I responded by telling him it had been a while, so I was just going to leave it on the mellow map. I have two say, after just a few sections, that was the easiest motocross bike I had ever ridden! I stayed in 2nd and 3rd pretty much the whole time and was able to ride it fast with much less effort. I am now in love with the 450. That being said I was in the mellow map. I should have switched to aggressive once i got more comfortable but was having so much fun with that map I didn't even think to change it. I don't doubt that the aggressive map is a rideable one though.
After riding both I now think it ultimately comes down to riding within your means. I feel like if I had a full day on both the 250f and the 450 I might have more of a chance getting hurt on the 250f just because it wore me out so fast. But power wise, I think you could still go out and do any big jump a 450 would do with the same risk. I have the goal to make it home every night and to work on Monday so I won't be hitting those jumps but any kid with massive balls is going to do it no matter what displacement he's on if he really wants to. I do like the idea of the mellow map option like others have mentioned. It's definitely not a buzz kill like you would imagine.
I put my money where my mouth is, at 27 in shape, i sold my 450 and picked up a 250f. but if i had to do it again, i would go with a 350.. mainly because then i can take it to glamis and ride moto on one bike without worrying about blowing up my 250f at glamis.
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