Bernard Kerr: World Cup DH racer wants to race SX

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Home of the Brave..
Land of the free...

Isn't he just chasing THE AMERICAN DREAM?

In Bernie's case, it's more like land of the fail, home of the buzz.
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Wasn't Paulin BMX racer turned moto?
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crowe176 wrote:
Let anyone try in the C practice. I hope he qualifies. But let anyone else that thinks they can turn a quick lap ride too.
This.
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aFACEdismembered 1/3/2020 1:52pm
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Shaun Palmer....


while still crushing it on a snowboard, downhill mountain biking and owning a snowboard company.
Jeremy Macbeth wrote:
Shaun Palmer had years of actual motocross racing experience before he turned pro. He didn't just decide one day to become a professional motocross racer for...
Shaun Palmer had years of actual motocross racing experience before he turned pro. He didn't just decide one day to become a professional motocross racer for shits and giggles.

"Doing something amazing" on a motorcycle is not at all the same as being an experienced racer, but this is the 30 second Instagram world we live in now.

If Bernard Kerr wants to do something amazing, he should try to qualify for Loretta's or show up to Mammoth and race the pros.
Looking at his Instagram, he's been riding on and off for at least 3-4 years. "Racing" is a bullshit excuse for being qualified to race. Stewart spun an ungodly amount of laps in his lifetime and made some of the stupidest on track racing decisions that ended up hurting other riders I've ever seen. Go ahead though. Push that agenda. We wouldn't want him to make some "lifers" re-evaluate their life decisions now would we?
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mattyhamz2 1/3/2020 1:59pm
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crowe176 wrote:
Let anyone try in the C practice. I hope he qualifies. But let anyone else that thinks they can turn a quick lap ride too.
Falcon wrote:
This.
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can turn a fast enough lap? That pretty stupid IMHO.
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aFACEdismembered 1/3/2020 2:00pm
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Shaun Palmer....


while still crushing it on a snowboard, downhill mountain biking and owning a snowboard company.
Jeremy Macbeth wrote:
Shaun Palmer had years of actual motocross racing experience before he turned pro. He didn't just decide one day to become a professional motocross racer for...
Shaun Palmer had years of actual motocross racing experience before he turned pro. He didn't just decide one day to become a professional motocross racer for shits and giggles.

"Doing something amazing" on a motorcycle is not at all the same as being an experienced racer, but this is the 30 second Instagram world we live in now.

If Bernard Kerr wants to do something amazing, he should try to qualify for Loretta's or show up to Mammoth and race the pros.
aFACEdismembered wrote:
Looking at his Instagram, he's been riding on and off for at least 3-4 years. "Racing" is a bullshit excuse for being qualified to race. Stewart...
Looking at his Instagram, he's been riding on and off for at least 3-4 years. "Racing" is a bullshit excuse for being qualified to race. Stewart spun an ungodly amount of laps in his lifetime and made some of the stupidest on track racing decisions that ended up hurting other riders I've ever seen. Go ahead though. Push that agenda. We wouldn't want him to make some "lifers" re-evaluate their life decisions now would we?
Also, Supercross and Motocross are two totally different disciplines by now. Saying he should race Mammoth or Loretta's is missing the point. He doesn't want to race motocross. He wants to race Supercross. That's like forcing a guy to race cross country mtb races before he races downhill. WTF purpose does that serve? It's a totally different discipline with a different skill set. He's obviously decided that SX, and not MX, is his skill set.
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aFACEdismembered 1/3/2020 2:04pm
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crowe176 wrote:
Let anyone try in the C practice. I hope he qualifies. But let anyone else that thinks they can turn a quick lap ride too.
Falcon wrote:
This.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can...
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can turn a fast enough lap? That pretty stupid IMHO.
This begs the question...

If he was trying to qualify for a National and not a SX would there be this kind of blowback? Why or why not? It's the same bikes, same competition, same danger, same inexperience.

Some guys are acting like this guy is going to ruin the sport if he's allowed to show up and ride.
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zippytech 1/3/2020 2:14pm
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Hell, I would like to show up and ride.. I am old fat and slow but fuck it where do I pay my entry fee? I just want to get out on a real SX track and ride too. None of the tamed down shit the amateurs get. I want to ride the real deal..
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Falcon wrote:
This.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can...
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can turn a fast enough lap? That pretty stupid IMHO.
aFACEdismembered wrote:
This begs the question... If he was trying to qualify for a National and not a SX would there be this kind of blowback? Why or...
This begs the question...

If he was trying to qualify for a National and not a SX would there be this kind of blowback? Why or why not? It's the same bikes, same competition, same danger, same inexperience.

Some guys are acting like this guy is going to ruin the sport if he's allowed to show up and ride.
He shouldn't be allowed to enter a National either. He could, though, enter a few local races and if he can finish towards the front or win, move up pretty quickly to get his pro license.

Doesn't matter whether it's Kerr or anyone else, the idea that you show up and your very first race is a SX or National is just insane. At least to most rational people.
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zippytech 1/3/2020 2:23pm
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I personally think he just made an ass of himself. If I was to start a mission like this I would have known first hand if I could even get a license before I posted anything about doing it.
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crowe176 1/3/2020 2:41pm
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crowe176 wrote:
Let anyone try in the C practice. I hope he qualifies. But let anyone else that thinks they can turn a quick lap ride too.
Falcon wrote:
This.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can...
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can turn a fast enough lap? That pretty stupid IMHO.
I agree with you man. All I was saying was, if he’s allowed, let anyone. No hate toward the kid in anyway. He obviously hauls ass. Whether or not he earned/deserves to be out there is the issue.
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APLMAN99 wrote:
He shouldn't be allowed to enter a National either. He could, though, enter a few local races and if he can finish towards the front or...
He shouldn't be allowed to enter a National either. He could, though, enter a few local races and if he can finish towards the front or win, move up pretty quickly to get his pro license.

Doesn't matter whether it's Kerr or anyone else, the idea that you show up and your very first race is a SX or National is just insane. At least to most rational people.
What if Feld invited guys from other similar (downhill mtb, hard Enduro, roadracing, etc) disciplines to have a special practice session at a supercross to see what kind of time they could get. Maybe in a dome stadium so there isn't a question of weather. No racing just get a lap time, and compare it to the top guys. Maybe race the futures race on Sunday to add an actual race to the content. It could get different eyeballs on the sport like Mr Kerr has done to some extent.

Yes I know hardly anyone would be willing to show up for this.
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JM485 1/3/2020 2:43pm
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zippytech wrote:
Hell, I would like to show up and ride.. I am old fat and slow but fuck it where do I pay my entry fee? I...
Hell, I would like to show up and ride.. I am old fat and slow but fuck it where do I pay my entry fee? I just want to get out on a real SX track and ride too. None of the tamed down shit the amateurs get. I want to ride the real deal..
Did you see most of the futures tracks the next day and especially the national championship track? They aren’t tamed down much, which is great as far as I’m concerned I want the real thing, and I was happy with what we got last year.
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Dropbear 1/3/2020 2:44pm
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Good luck to him. Wont be easy that’s for sure. I raced a couple of National SX in Australia with nowhere near the depth of an AMA SX, and was given 2 practice sessions of about 10 minutes, with bales on the racing line ( so wouldn’t prematurely wear out). Freaked me out a bit and I’d raced for 15 years at that stage.

Suffice to say I preferred outdoors.
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zippytech 1/3/2020 2:54pm
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JM485 wrote:
Did you see most of the futures tracks the next day and especially the national championship track? They aren’t tamed down much, which is great as...
Did you see most of the futures tracks the next day and especially the national championship track? They aren’t tamed down much, which is great as far as I’m concerned I want the real thing, and I was happy with what we got last year.
That is awesome. Back in the 90's we would goto the local national tracks and next to Kenworthys Friday practice after pros was so much better then Saturday amateurs day was, most of the jumps was so knocked down, no one was jumping them.

That sucked for the amount of money we spent.. We wanted the real deal and got some thing completely different from what we signed up for.
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APLMAN99 1/3/2020 3:00pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
He shouldn't be allowed to enter a National either. He could, though, enter a few local races and if he can finish towards the front or...
He shouldn't be allowed to enter a National either. He could, though, enter a few local races and if he can finish towards the front or win, move up pretty quickly to get his pro license.

Doesn't matter whether it's Kerr or anyone else, the idea that you show up and your very first race is a SX or National is just insane. At least to most rational people.
early wrote:
What if Feld invited guys from other similar (downhill mtb, hard Enduro, roadracing, etc) disciplines to have a special practice session at a supercross to see...
What if Feld invited guys from other similar (downhill mtb, hard Enduro, roadracing, etc) disciplines to have a special practice session at a supercross to see what kind of time they could get. Maybe in a dome stadium so there isn't a question of weather. No racing just get a lap time, and compare it to the top guys. Maybe race the futures race on Sunday to add an actual race to the content. It could get different eyeballs on the sport like Mr Kerr has done to some extent.

Yes I know hardly anyone would be willing to show up for this.
If they want to do a "cross-over" exhibition, that's a whole different thing. Sort of like when they did the whole "holeshot" competition with the NASCAR guys, etc.

I think that they could do a lot of things that don't involve letting someone who's never even entered a single event in the discipline compete at the highest level. They could shut the track down and let a couple of invited guests run 2-3 laps each by themselves, just to see how they would do. That'd be great, and it would most likely show how fast the actual pros really are.

I know some guys who can turn a pretty quick lap on the road course at SIR/Pacific Raceways. They may actually be able to run with some really good open wheel pro guys that came to drive for a day. But that wouldn't/shouldn't qualify them to enter the Indy 500 or an F1 race.

I really would like to see how well Kerr could do at an actual race, and he should start that sort of thing at a reasonable level instead of trying to make his debut race at a SX race like this.
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mattyhamz2 1/3/2020 3:17pm
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Falcon wrote:
This.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can...
So you guys are saying that I, a 25+ Novice, should be able to try to qualify through C practice if I feel like I can turn a fast enough lap? That pretty stupid IMHO.
crowe176 wrote:
I agree with you man. All I was saying was, if he’s allowed, let anyone. No hate toward the kid in anyway. He obviously hauls ass...
I agree with you man. All I was saying was, if he’s allowed, let anyone. No hate toward the kid in anyway. He obviously hauls ass. Whether or not he earned/deserves to be out there is the issue.
Well I agree with that. If they let him in, they should let everyone in at that point. Why bother having the supercross futures at that point, other than to line the promoters pockets.

My bad, I just have very strong opinions on this subject. Those requirements and license requirements are what keep Supercross and Pro MX PROFESSIONAL.
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GODZILLA 1/3/2020 3:21pm
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early wrote:
What if Feld invited guys from other similar (downhill mtb, hard Enduro, roadracing, etc) disciplines to have a special practice session at a supercross to see...
What if Feld invited guys from other similar (downhill mtb, hard Enduro, roadracing, etc) disciplines to have a special practice session at a supercross to see what kind of time they could get. Maybe in a dome stadium so there isn't a question of weather. No racing just get a lap time, and compare it to the top guys. Maybe race the futures race on Sunday to add an actual race to the content. It could get different eyeballs on the sport like Mr Kerr has done to some extent.

Yes I know hardly anyone would be willing to show up for this.
Yeah, we also could have Ronnie Mac ride atop of an elephant in a giant waterpool and have Hulk Hogan and the Harlem Globe Trotters landed in the stadium by drones while Dianna Dahlgren reads poetry to the audience...
Woohoo
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keinz 1/3/2020 3:34pm
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burnside wrote:
Wasn't Paulin BMX racer turned moto?
Yes, he was.
Paulin began racing BMX bikes at the age of 6 and, won a BMX world championship at the age of 10
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misterwaterfallin 1/3/2020 4:59pm
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early wrote:
What if Feld invited guys from other similar (downhill mtb, hard Enduro, roadracing, etc) disciplines to have a special practice session at a supercross to see...
What if Feld invited guys from other similar (downhill mtb, hard Enduro, roadracing, etc) disciplines to have a special practice session at a supercross to see what kind of time they could get. Maybe in a dome stadium so there isn't a question of weather. No racing just get a lap time, and compare it to the top guys. Maybe race the futures race on Sunday to add an actual race to the content. It could get different eyeballs on the sport like Mr Kerr has done to some extent.

Yes I know hardly anyone would be willing to show up for this.
GODZILLA wrote:
Yeah, we also could have Ronnie Mac ride atop of an elephant in a giant waterpool and have Hulk Hogan and the Harlem Globe Trotters landed...
Yeah, we also could have Ronnie Mac ride atop of an elephant in a giant waterpool and have Hulk Hogan and the Harlem Globe Trotters landed in the stadium by drones while Dianna Dahlgren reads poetry to the audience...
Woohoo
Ronnie mac could make the night show riding full good in overalls.
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The bike he was riding in his latest Instagram video is number 401. So either he’s got a number now or he’s borrowing Eric McCrummen’s equipment.
The bike he was riding in his latest Instagram video is number 401. So either he’s got a number now or he’s borrowing Eric McCrummen’s equipment.
I thought that was Sam Redman’s number...?
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burnside 1/3/2020 5:40pm
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burnside wrote:
Wasn't Paulin BMX racer turned moto?
keinz wrote:
Yes, he was.
Paulin began racing BMX bikes at the age of 6 and, won a BMX world championship at the age of 10
Do you know when he first started riding moto?
Wasn't MC fourteen years old the first time he rode MX?
theycallmeebryan 1/3/2020 8:15pm
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There is no Anaheim 1 SX Futures, so he wont be racing in Anaheim this Sunday either. Anaheim 2, in two weeks, has SX Futures the following Sunday.
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You are correct. It counts for something. However, that something is different depending the situation. Timed practice? Not so much. Back of the pack heat race...
You are correct. It counts for something. However, that something is different depending the situation. Timed practice? Not so much. Back of the pack heat race? Not so much. It's not like he is showing up having never been on the track with other riders.

I think we are forgetting that our comfort zone/adaptability/instincts and a world class athlete's are much much different.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd rather be wrong supporting someone then be wrong dragging them down, especially on pure speculation.

d394 wrote:
He is 110% qualifying speed and ability. I've first hand witnessed much slower and less skilled riders qualify in the top 40 at many supercross events.
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Qualifying speed? Really? Do you really believe that he can go to a SX track and within two 10 minute practice sessions he can be within...
Qualifying speed? Really? Do you really believe that he can go to a SX track and within two 10 minute practice sessions he can be within 7 seconds of Webb, Cooper, Roczen, and company?

That's about what the last qualifier for the night show is.

He's showing some decent skills (but not even that sort of speed) on a track that he's been riding all day and has dozens of attempts at the obstacles, that's not even close to what he would be facing at Anaheim.

7 seconds separates 1st from 40th at the average SX event. No way he gets within that.

But he'll have some great content for his LSD videos and he's created a lot of buzz!!!!!!!
Yup, I've worked for many years as a mechanic and have witnessed riders doubling whoops qualify... ones not riding at kerr's ability. Too bad he won't get the opportunity.
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d394 wrote:
He is 110% qualifying speed and ability. I've first hand witnessed much slower and less skilled riders qualify in the top 40 at many supercross events.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Qualifying speed? Really? Do you really believe that he can go to a SX track and within two 10 minute practice sessions he can be within...
Qualifying speed? Really? Do you really believe that he can go to a SX track and within two 10 minute practice sessions he can be within 7 seconds of Webb, Cooper, Roczen, and company?

That's about what the last qualifier for the night show is.

He's showing some decent skills (but not even that sort of speed) on a track that he's been riding all day and has dozens of attempts at the obstacles, that's not even close to what he would be facing at Anaheim.

7 seconds separates 1st from 40th at the average SX event. No way he gets within that.

But he'll have some great content for his LSD videos and he's created a lot of buzz!!!!!!!
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Yup, I've worked for many years as a mechanic and have witnessed riders doubling whoops qualify... ones not riding at kerr's ability. Too bad he won't...
Yup, I've worked for many years as a mechanic and have witnessed riders doubling whoops qualify... ones not riding at kerr's ability. Too bad he won't get the opportunity.
That was my take too - if he can put the whole track together (a big if) he would be far from the worst guy on the track. Borderline qualifier I’d have guessed.
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He might be 'ok' at the obstacles, like the slower others. But guaranteed he loses in the corners to all but the slowest there, if he can even be that fast. Then make 6-8 laps? No way...If he's had years on a moto, then its possible.
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looking at his instagram he said he has a license, but due to an unsaid “issue” it doesn’t look like he’ll be lining up.
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looking at his instagram he said he has a license, but due to an unsaid “issue” it doesn’t look like he’ll be lining up.
#yallaregettingplayed

#publicitystunt

#justdoingitforthepageviews

#bullshitfromthestart

#goingaccordingtoplan

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#yallaregettingplayed

#publicitystunt

#justdoingitforthepageviews

#bullshitfromthestart

#goingaccordingtoplan

#58thousandviewsonvitalalone
#bozobernie
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Should be a segment called "Squids", where the self proclaimed double tripple scrub whoopers could go out and just snap some collarbones.

Entertainment factor: through the roof.
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