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In 2009 Dungey won 250 lites sx 250 outdoors then moved up for his first year on the 450 races des nations on it and won and then still won the 450 title in his rookie season. Is there a difference between then and now?
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That's why I love racing, anything can and usually does happen. That's why a series is over multiple races. You have to be at the top consistent not just once etc
just how does that fact play into the "straight up" talk?
and when villo was injured, was he injured due to working his ass off attempting to be ready to compete with Dungey? or does the screwing your self up, so you aren't able to be at the gate, to race the guy who effectively beats you, because your not there, not "really" count in the "straight up" talk?
this has always confused me... is there some way to clear up how, when one stays healthy, and kicks ass, and owns the number one plate, and is the supercross champ, or motocross champ, they some how didn't beat someone who effectively took themselves out of competition attempting to achieve the same thing?
Dungey rode the same track in 2010 at St. Louis that RV did and did all the same jumps. RV messed up and got hurt, Dungey didn't. Dungey had the points lead with only four rounds left. Dungey won the title, RV didn't that just racing.
Ryan Dungey's stats for 250MX, 450 MX and SX, 8 Championships and 80 Wins out of 246 Races 32.52%, with 192 Podiums 78.05%, 219 Top Fives 89.02%, 235 Top Tens 95.93%. Very few riders have stats that high.
Every rider starts at the same place at the first round and it's the fucking riders job to finish standing at the end with the most points. Period. Too many vaiables through out the year to claim it's only luck in any situation. It's bitter, jock riding, beer googled half wits who float that stupid shit.
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As far as RV’s crash in 2010 goes, well Reed said something about that jump after his qualifier and told the track crew to fix it because it was already almost down the the plywood. Track crew didn’t listen, RV leading the main, sees a lapper ahead of him and moves over to another rut to avoid that lapper. RV hits the plywood, spins and doesn’t get the pop he needed to clear the jump into the corner and that was the end of the season. That crash was a lack of track maintenance that the riders requested.
RV was ultimately the fastest and better of the two. With that said, no matter what luck Dungey did or didn’t have, you still can’t take away his championships or discredit him in any way as a racer. The dude was solid and you always knew he’d be in or near the top 4.
This is coming from someone who wasn’t a Dungey fan until after he retired.
That is all.
And looking back it seems like he was going as fast as you can possibly go without being on the ragged edge, and riding past yours or the bikes limits.
Which is why he is MR consistency. If you think about it a lot of the guys that Finished ahead of him when he got 2and and 3rds also got Bitten with some Big injuries while pushing past the limits.
Ryan new how to push it right to that limit , and hold it there for 30 minutes.
He is a special dude, I think he will be successful at anything he gets involved in.
Again, no disrespect to Dungey he was Villopoto’s only real competition but I just don’t think you can make the case that he was better than RV.
Please excuse my lame joke, I couldn't help myself.
Fun races to watch but frustrating for a Dungey fan.
A rookie like Dungey is a rare breed. I don't think there is anything preventing a rookie from coming in and doing what he did, but it just takes a lot of humility and discipline to do what he did. There just hasn't been that kind of rookie step up in a LONG time. Tomac was good enough, but just didn't execute.
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