Let's see/review those 2019 kx450s

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10/12/2019 6:39pm
Click588 wrote:
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into...
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into a turn and bike just quits. The first time I thought bike locked up. Electric start wouldn’t turn over. Then 10 seconds later it fires right up. Now 2 hours put on it since then and did it again today. Any ideas? Connection or electrical?
Do you notice a loss of power too on the bottom end? Mine did the same thing, checked the radiator fluid and it was almost empty. I had boiling issue from a blown head gasket. See what level your radiator fluid is at. If it doesn’t appear to be losing fluid it may be a connection
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10/12/2019 7:43pm
Click588 wrote:
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into...
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into a turn and bike just quits. The first time I thought bike locked up. Electric start wouldn’t turn over. Then 10 seconds later it fires right up. Now 2 hours put on it since then and did it again today. Any ideas? Connection or electrical?
i'm guessing that this may be your issue... might wanna check rad fluid/cap. hopefully it's something as simple as that

https://motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-race-test-the-real-test-of-the-2019-…

(8) Battery. The battery has a micro-switch that turns the battery off if it gets hot—this is reportedly what happened to Eli Tomac’s KX450 at the Motocross des Nations. It will refuse to turn the engine over until it cools down.
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10/12/2019 8:05pm
Click588 wrote:
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into...
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into a turn and bike just quits. The first time I thought bike locked up. Electric start wouldn’t turn over. Then 10 seconds later it fires right up. Now 2 hours put on it since then and did it again today. Any ideas? Connection or electrical?
Check the battery ground cable connection at the negative terminal and at the subframe.
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10/12/2019 8:08pm
Click588 wrote:
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into...
Question for you guys. See if anyone has had same problem. 2019 kx 450 with 50 hours on it. Has happened 2 times now coming into a turn and bike just quits. The first time I thought bike locked up. Electric start wouldn’t turn over. Then 10 seconds later it fires right up. Now 2 hours put on it since then and did it again today. Any ideas? Connection or electrical?
Check the negative battery cable. It could start fraying or breaking. I have seen this a few times.

I have also seen the coolant low and cause the bike to shut down. I personally had a bad radiator cap that was allowing coolant to push out the over flow.
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10/13/2019 7:52pm Edited Date/Time 10/13/2019 7:53pm
What fork oil height do you guys recommend? How much is to much?
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I run 310 with one 0.52 spring and think that works good.
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10/14/2019 12:32am Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 1:32am
I swear this is not a troll post, lol.

Local track had demo day yesterday, and got to spin some laps on a 2020 kx450. Most of my track time has been on a 2 stoke, and current ride is a YZ250. I am C, maybe back of the pack B, 38 years old, and the Kawi fits the bill for me due to my height of 6'3. Also, my primary goal is fun, mx only, but little- if any- racing.

My insight from a couple laps is the suspension was very plush. It was late in the day, and the track was not that bad, but it would soak up stuff SO much more than my old smoker... albeit its on old aoss stuff. I was picking bad lines and aiming for big holes, and it did not care. Way cool. I did not push it super hard, but dare I say... it felt, well.... a bit boring? I am not sure if I was looking for more of a hit, or if I am just not used to the 4 stroke and perhaps that feeling will pass. I mean you could put it in 3rd and never clutch or change gears, lol! I guess I was expecting instant love, and instead I was driving home rethinking things.

My question is this. Anyone in this epic near 100 pager go from a 2 stroke to this bike, and if so, how was the adjustment period? I came home and the wifey just rolled her eyes at me and said, you dope, you will just get used to it and never look back. Perhaps she is right, but what concerns me is how comfortable I was on the two stroke when I gave the dealer the kx back. Any insight would be great! THANKS!

EDIT- Unsure what coupler was plugged in, which might explain its tameness???
10/14/2019 12:37am
What do I need to do to change the rear brake back to a smaller rotor? I really do not like how touchy the larger sized rotor is. If I just put on a 2018 brake rotor, wont the fit up of the caliper be wrong?
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10/14/2019 4:01am Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 4:02am
What do I need to do to change the rear brake back to a smaller rotor? I really do not like how touchy the larger sized...
What do I need to do to change the rear brake back to a smaller rotor? I really do not like how touchy the larger sized rotor is. If I just put on a 2018 brake rotor, wont the fit up of the caliper be wrong?
You need to order the caliper bracket from a 2018 as well as a rotor from a 2018. That should be all that’s required to have the smaller rotor
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10/14/2019 6:52am Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 7:29am
nch209 wrote:
I swear this is not a troll post, lol. Local track had demo day yesterday, and got to spin some laps on a 2020 kx450. Most...
I swear this is not a troll post, lol.

Local track had demo day yesterday, and got to spin some laps on a 2020 kx450. Most of my track time has been on a 2 stoke, and current ride is a YZ250. I am C, maybe back of the pack B, 38 years old, and the Kawi fits the bill for me due to my height of 6'3. Also, my primary goal is fun, mx only, but little- if any- racing.

My insight from a couple laps is the suspension was very plush. It was late in the day, and the track was not that bad, but it would soak up stuff SO much more than my old smoker... albeit its on old aoss stuff. I was picking bad lines and aiming for big holes, and it did not care. Way cool. I did not push it super hard, but dare I say... it felt, well.... a bit boring? I am not sure if I was looking for more of a hit, or if I am just not used to the 4 stroke and perhaps that feeling will pass. I mean you could put it in 3rd and never clutch or change gears, lol! I guess I was expecting instant love, and instead I was driving home rethinking things.

My question is this. Anyone in this epic near 100 pager go from a 2 stroke to this bike, and if so, how was the adjustment period? I came home and the wifey just rolled her eyes at me and said, you dope, you will just get used to it and never look back. Perhaps she is right, but what concerns me is how comfortable I was on the two stroke when I gave the dealer the kx back. Any insight would be great! THANKS!

EDIT- Unsure what coupler was plugged in, which might explain its tameness???
The first time I switched from a 250 2 stroke to a 450, I felt the same way. I was expecting it to rip my arms off, and it was the exact opposite. Most 450 engines feel like that compared to a 250 2 stroke.
2 strokes have hard hitting powerbands, while 4 strokes have a more electric 'metered' power output that is WAY more controllable. But ride whatever you are more comfortable with. I am still a die hard 2 stroke lover, and I love the lighter front end feel of my two strokes, but there is no denying that the 4 stroke tires me out less because of the way the engine makes its power.

Welcome to 2005. :-)
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10/14/2019 7:53am
nch209 wrote:
I swear this is not a troll post, lol. Local track had demo day yesterday, and got to spin some laps on a 2020 kx450. Most...
I swear this is not a troll post, lol.

Local track had demo day yesterday, and got to spin some laps on a 2020 kx450. Most of my track time has been on a 2 stoke, and current ride is a YZ250. I am C, maybe back of the pack B, 38 years old, and the Kawi fits the bill for me due to my height of 6'3. Also, my primary goal is fun, mx only, but little- if any- racing.

My insight from a couple laps is the suspension was very plush. It was late in the day, and the track was not that bad, but it would soak up stuff SO much more than my old smoker... albeit its on old aoss stuff. I was picking bad lines and aiming for big holes, and it did not care. Way cool. I did not push it super hard, but dare I say... it felt, well.... a bit boring? I am not sure if I was looking for more of a hit, or if I am just not used to the 4 stroke and perhaps that feeling will pass. I mean you could put it in 3rd and never clutch or change gears, lol! I guess I was expecting instant love, and instead I was driving home rethinking things.

My question is this. Anyone in this epic near 100 pager go from a 2 stroke to this bike, and if so, how was the adjustment period? I came home and the wifey just rolled her eyes at me and said, you dope, you will just get used to it and never look back. Perhaps she is right, but what concerns me is how comfortable I was on the two stroke when I gave the dealer the kx back. Any insight would be great! THANKS!

EDIT- Unsure what coupler was plugged in, which might explain its tameness???
Sorry for the long reply but since I had a similar situation I'll give you my two cents.

I bought my KX450 in March, and I was coming off 3 years on a YZ250 (a 2016, newer than yours, but still very similar). Prior to the YZ, I'd taken 25 years off from the sport, and I'd never owned a 4 stroke before. I kept my YZ250 because I really wasn't sure if I'd wind up hating the 450. I'd borrowed a couple of 450s for a few laps before, but always felt right back at home on my 2-stroke as soon as I got back on it.

It took me a little while to adjust to the KX450. The way the motor felt, the engine braking, etc. The heavier weight seemed to go away first, then I grew to appreciate the engine braking. The smooth power that you are talking about though, it's deceptive. The smoker is more violent, but it isn't anywhere near as "fast". It's most obvious when getting around slower riders on practice days, when you can literally just twist the throttle and shoot past another rider...my YZ250 could never do that. It doesn't rip your arms off, but it actually hooks up and goes forward much quicker than the smoker can. Plus you can either lug 3rd in a turn or stretch 2nd at the end of a short straight in ways that the 2 stroke really can't.

Two weeks ago I took both bikes out at the same time to ride back to back for the first time. I couldn't believe how bad my YZ250 felt. It made me a little sad to be honest, because I remember really loving the bike, and I had a great time racing it. The motor was difficult to ride, and the bike just felt really sketchy compared to the more planted 450. I used to crash kind of a lot, and really hard, on the smoker. I'm faster on the KX450 than I ever was on the smoker, with only one bad crash all year (my fault on a big double).

The other thing with my smoker was, I had to ride the thing constantly (2-3 times per week) or the rust would set in and I'd feel like I hadn't ridden in a while if I took so much as a week off from riding. On the KX this year, I went 2 months with no practice days at all, just showing up for races, even at tracks I'd never been to before and felt comfortable and ready to go full speed after a sight lap. I think because the bike is so easy to ride, you get comfortable really quick.

As far as the coupler goes, they probably had the normal green one in if it was a demo day. Black would be more for dry / low traction days, white if you want move liveliness.

Anyway, good luck!
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10/14/2019 8:47am
nch209 wrote:
I swear this is not a troll post, lol. Local track had demo day yesterday, and got to spin some laps on a 2020 kx450. Most...
I swear this is not a troll post, lol.

Local track had demo day yesterday, and got to spin some laps on a 2020 kx450. Most of my track time has been on a 2 stoke, and current ride is a YZ250. I am C, maybe back of the pack B, 38 years old, and the Kawi fits the bill for me due to my height of 6'3. Also, my primary goal is fun, mx only, but little- if any- racing.

My insight from a couple laps is the suspension was very plush. It was late in the day, and the track was not that bad, but it would soak up stuff SO much more than my old smoker... albeit its on old aoss stuff. I was picking bad lines and aiming for big holes, and it did not care. Way cool. I did not push it super hard, but dare I say... it felt, well.... a bit boring? I am not sure if I was looking for more of a hit, or if I am just not used to the 4 stroke and perhaps that feeling will pass. I mean you could put it in 3rd and never clutch or change gears, lol! I guess I was expecting instant love, and instead I was driving home rethinking things.

My question is this. Anyone in this epic near 100 pager go from a 2 stroke to this bike, and if so, how was the adjustment period? I came home and the wifey just rolled her eyes at me and said, you dope, you will just get used to it and never look back. Perhaps she is right, but what concerns me is how comfortable I was on the two stroke when I gave the dealer the kx back. Any insight would be great! THANKS!

EDIT- Unsure what coupler was plugged in, which might explain its tameness???
I switch back and forth between my YZ250 and my kx450 almost every time I ride, few motos on each, same day. They're different in delivery but for mere mortals I dont think its a big issue. The line choice is a bigger factor for me going from one to the other more so than engine delivery.
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10/14/2019 9:11am
dmm698 wrote:
I switch back and forth between my YZ250 and my kx450 almost every time I ride, few motos on each, same day. They're different in delivery...
I switch back and forth between my YZ250 and my kx450 almost every time I ride, few motos on each, same day. They're different in delivery but for mere mortals I dont think its a big issue. The line choice is a bigger factor for me going from one to the other more so than engine delivery.
I think if you do that often, your brain can adjust between them a lot easier. My buddy rides his old KX250 2 stroke and 19 KX450 back to back all the time and has no trouble at all transitioning. My YZ250 felt almost like a 125 as far as how I had to ride it compared to lugging my 450 around.
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10/14/2019 9:35am Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 9:39am
Last week i rode my KX450 on Tuesday.....then....because my wife is awesome.....i rode my YZ250 at the same track on Wednesday. Jesus....i was feeling the pain on Thursday! The YZ is fun but i have to work much harder to keep the same speed as the 4 stroke. It was a big adjustment going from the 4 stroke to the 2 stroke so quickly. Took about 20 minutes to feel halfway comfortable. Completely different riding style between the 2 bikes. I'm smoother on the 4 stroke and frenetic on the smoker. Both were fun but no contest in regards to which bike is faster. Faster = more fun for me. You can make it very un-boring quickly by riding faster and pushing harder on the 4 stroke. It's only boring if you are riding around in the mid-range of the powerband and not pushing.
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10/14/2019 10:39am
without having to dig through 100 pages, has anyone found a solution to the cracking subframe with the FMF? I cracked mine, without crashing, and would prefer to not just keep welding or buying subframes
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Moto520 wrote:
Last week i rode my KX450 on Tuesday.....then....because my wife is awesome.....i rode my YZ250 at the same track on Wednesday. Jesus....i was feeling the pain...
Last week i rode my KX450 on Tuesday.....then....because my wife is awesome.....i rode my YZ250 at the same track on Wednesday. Jesus....i was feeling the pain on Thursday! The YZ is fun but i have to work much harder to keep the same speed as the 4 stroke. It was a big adjustment going from the 4 stroke to the 2 stroke so quickly. Took about 20 minutes to feel halfway comfortable. Completely different riding style between the 2 bikes. I'm smoother on the 4 stroke and frenetic on the smoker. Both were fun but no contest in regards to which bike is faster. Faster = more fun for me. You can make it very un-boring quickly by riding faster and pushing harder on the 4 stroke. It's only boring if you are riding around in the mid-range of the powerband and not pushing.
"I'm smoother on the 4 stroke and frenetic on the smoker."

This was/is the case for me too. I have to ride the 2T way more on the edge of control to go the same speed, have to shift right before jump faces (depending on the track), etc. On the 450 I can think more about technique, line selection, and breathing. Now that I think about it, maybe a lot of the fun I was having on the smoker was the fact that you have to ride on the ragged edge a bit more, so there's more of a rush to it.
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10/14/2019 11:39am
without having to dig through 100 pages, has anyone found a solution to the cracking subframe with the FMF? I cracked mine, without crashing, and would...
without having to dig through 100 pages, has anyone found a solution to the cracking subframe with the FMF? I cracked mine, without crashing, and would prefer to not just keep welding or buying subframes
https://icwradiators.com/ will reinforce/brace the stock tab for $50.
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I recently moved from a 2018 KXF450 to a YZ250 and cant believe how much more I enjoy riding now. The 450 was so easy to ride, but was heavy, didn't corner well, and was so boring in comparison. As said by others, the 450 is much faster but doesn't feel it. My results have been on par with the 450 on the YZ, but I'm having 100% more fun! Dont think I'd ever want to have another 450 now Shocked
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10/14/2019 1:40pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 1:42pm
Grovesy98 wrote:
I recently moved from a 2018 KXF450 to a YZ250 and cant believe how much more I enjoy riding now. The 450 was so easy to...
I recently moved from a 2018 KXF450 to a YZ250 and cant believe how much more I enjoy riding now. The 450 was so easy to ride, but was heavy, didn't corner well, and was so boring in comparison. As said by others, the 450 is much faster but doesn't feel it. My results have been on par with the 450 on the YZ, but I'm having 100% more fun! Dont think I'd ever want to have another 450 now Shocked
once the novelty of a two stroke wore off for me......i was wanting the power of the 450. The 250 smoker was fun for the end of last season and then it became too much work. This thread, however, is not about debating 2 stroke vs 4 stroke. The title of the thread is a review of the 2019 KAWI 450.
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Grovesy98 wrote:
I recently moved from a 2018 KXF450 to a YZ250 and cant believe how much more I enjoy riding now. The 450 was so easy to...
I recently moved from a 2018 KXF450 to a YZ250 and cant believe how much more I enjoy riding now. The 450 was so easy to ride, but was heavy, didn't corner well, and was so boring in comparison. As said by others, the 450 is much faster but doesn't feel it. My results have been on par with the 450 on the YZ, but I'm having 100% more fun! Dont think I'd ever want to have another 450 now Shocked
Moto520 wrote:
once the novelty of a two stroke wore off for me......i was wanting the power of the 450. The 250 smoker was fun for the end...
once the novelty of a two stroke wore off for me......i was wanting the power of the 450. The 250 smoker was fun for the end of last season and then it became too much work. This thread, however, is not about debating 2 stroke vs 4 stroke. The title of the thread is a review of the 2019 KAWI 450.
Yeh fair enough. A guy I know has the 19, he loves it and goes real well on it. The electric start and hydraulic clutch really set it apart from the 18 kxf that I had. Much better forks too
10/14/2019 2:04pm
without having to dig through 100 pages, has anyone found a solution to the cracking subframe with the FMF? I cracked mine, without crashing, and would...
without having to dig through 100 pages, has anyone found a solution to the cracking subframe with the FMF? I cracked mine, without crashing, and would prefer to not just keep welding or buying subframes
https://icwradiators.com/ will reinforce/brace the stock tab for $50.
If all theyre doing is reinforcing it, I'll just make a a ron ponder do it for me at his work lol I was hoping someone figured out an easy rubber mount solution
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Grovesy98 wrote:
Yeh fair enough. A guy I know has the 19, he loves it and goes real well on it. The electric start and hydraulic clutch really...
Yeh fair enough. A guy I know has the 19, he loves it and goes real well on it. The electric start and hydraulic clutch really set it apart from the 18 kxf that I had. Much better forks too
How dare you sir?

(just kidding)
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10/14/2019 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 2:34pm
My favorite bike at Red Bud yesterday!

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10/14/2019 2:22pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 2:24pm
What do I need to do to change the rear brake back to a smaller rotor? I really do not like how touchy the larger sized...
What do I need to do to change the rear brake back to a smaller rotor? I really do not like how touchy the larger sized rotor is. If I just put on a 2018 brake rotor, wont the fit up of the caliper be wrong?
buzz06 wrote:
You need to order the caliper bracket from a 2018 as well as a rotor from a 2018. That should be all that’s required to have...
You need to order the caliper bracket from a 2018 as well as a rotor from a 2018. That should be all that’s required to have the smaller rotor
Actually, they are same part number from 2006 on up. I bought the caliper hanger from a 2006 on ebay for $15. Works great and had been cleaned up to look like new.
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Moto520 wrote:
My favorite bike at Red Bud yesterday! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/10/14/379450/s1200_EB089C4D_3351_416E_82B1_1ACA55868AAD.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/10/14/379451/s1200_DE2D0F4F_0BC1_42A5_B0C7_AB5638582810.jpg[/img]
My favorite bike at Red Bud yesterday!

First pic looks like LTMX?
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10/14/2019 4:43pm
Moto520 wrote:
My favorite bike at Red Bud yesterday! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/10/14/379450/s1200_EB089C4D_3351_416E_82B1_1ACA55868AAD.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/10/14/379451/s1200_DE2D0F4F_0BC1_42A5_B0C7_AB5638582810.jpg[/img]
My favorite bike at Red Bud yesterday!

First pic looks like LTMX?
It does look like LTMX
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10/14/2019 8:58pm
First pic looks like LTMX?
You sirs.....are correct. My bad. 2nd one is from Sunday.
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Guys......a little separation on the plastic seam of the airbox. Just something to keep an eye on.



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10/14/2019 11:25pm
Thanks for all the info regarding my test ride to those who contributed. A wealth of great info!!! Sorry if I derailed things any. Page 100! Keep the updates and pics coming! An AWESOME thread!!!
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nch209 wrote:
Thanks for all the info regarding my test ride to those who contributed. A wealth of great info!!! Sorry if I derailed things any. Page 100...
Thanks for all the info regarding my test ride to those who contributed. A wealth of great info!!! Sorry if I derailed things any. Page 100! Keep the updates and pics coming! An AWESOME thread!!!
No 100 page thread ever got there in a straight line Laughing

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