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Sure didn’t look that way for the Honda boys last night.
Sure wish they’d just crank up the machining from 2007 and spit a few hundred units out.
Sure wish they’d just crank up the machining from 2007 and spit a few hundred units out.
I was thinking the same, time to acknowledge that in MX/SX the rider is what matters. 90% rider 10% machine. And all the industry experts justifying how KTMs are way superior than other 2 strokes. Guess they are scratching their heads.
How cool would have been Roczen winning on the 96 CR. You can bet KTM is not happy.
I raced one in a barrel race on the beach with drums 700m apart and won by 700m after 4 laps...definitely not slow.
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There’s a bell curve to progression and innovation of all types and the curve softened A LOT in the very late 90s and early 2000s. There will only be incremental improvements to actual speed translated to the rider from here on, regardless of tech.
Lieb and Roczen have far more years/ laps of experience in Supercross and while the "kids" might have "more" two-stroke experience, being able to lean on one's SX skills (regardless of bike) speaks volumes for experience.
Simple equation for you: Kenny + Whoop-Speed = RBSR win (Bike is irrelevant) hahaha
if you put a KTM 125's against a YZ125 which had the biggest update of all the Jap bikes in the 2000s the KTM is lighter and has a lot more horsepower
and its the same with the 250's as well.
Ultimately rider skill can make up a lot of ground on 2 strokes but it sections where you need more power you're gonna fall behind
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For us? Yes, because a stock Honda,Yamaha or whatever Japanese brand is no where a stock KTM/Husky.
You can make them allot better but you need to have some cash for that.
it also showed that we simply don't need 4 strokes to have a great time while racing, or even while just watching the racing.......
Point is you are taking an incredibly narrow example, with huge caveats, and trying to apply it to showroom stock bikes. Yes current generation two strokes are better than their mid-2000's counterparts because they are benefiting from overall mx bike development changes (chassis, suspension, components), and some small refinements to the power plant.
But using Ken Roczen's CR250, or Leib's CR125 from RBSR, at RBSR, isn't some sort of quality sample comparison mate. That's like saying your neighbor kicks everyone ass in the neighborhood on his '73 Maico so obviously Maico's are still competitive.
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