Why doesn’t Red Bull KTM participate in changing graphics like other teams?

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7/8/2019 10:48pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2019 10:57pm
It's not 1776 anymore.. All countries are independent and have freedom. Many more than the us. Hard for us americans to accept I get it.
mxbrian15 wrote:
“All countries are independent and have freedom” lol! Wow.
Fun fact: out of all the “free countries” USA has the highest percentage of incarceration.. the land of the free has the least amount of free people haha

https://youtu.be/1oyKVAjISmI
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This. The 4th Reich is upon us
I mean Hitler was born 10 miles from the factory...Dry
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Red Bull KTM does not participate in the military appreciation night in San Diego SX, or retro nights, etc. I think they are the only factory...
Red Bull KTM does not participate in the military appreciation night in San Diego SX, or retro nights, etc. I think they are the only factory team not doing anything for Independence Day, what gives?
This is where I have a real problem with things like this. I'm an American but I don't have an American flag hanging outside of my house. Does this mean I don't support America? No... I don't have to go around announcing my allegiance to the flag. Neither does Red Bull KTM. If anything, they are being more respectful by maintaining their image. They don't put camouflage on their bikes because they aren't uniforms or military vehicles. They also don't use the American flag for graphics because if you read in the U.S. Flag Code, you'll see....

- "The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose, nor embroidered on cushions or handkerchiefs, printed on paper napkins or boxes, nor used as any portion of a costume."

- "When the flag is displayed on a vehicle, the staff should be fixed firmly to the chassis."

So if anything, to answer your question, the Red Bull KTM team is the most patriotic by truly respecting the U.S. Flag Code. Wearing an American flag cut off t-shirt while shotgunning a Bud Light while screaming "Merica" is the most disrespectful hill billy crap you'll ever see and in no way is that patriotic. Don't get it confused.
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It's not 1776 anymore.. All countries are independent and have freedom. Many more than the us. Hard for us americans to accept I get it.
"Many more than us"


LOLOLOL!

NAME ONE!!!!
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
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Lol if you think Australia is free I'd hate to live in the USA
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It's not 1776 anymore.. All countries are independent and have freedom. Many more than the us. Hard for us americans to accept I get it.
"Many more than us"


LOLOLOL!

NAME ONE!!!!
drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
How many of those countries can you go into a store and buy an ar15 or a handgun like you can in the states? Probably zero.
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I don't have time to look at how any of these studies were done so I can't comment on the methodologies.

One example of a 'freedom ranking' - CATO's Human Freedom Index:

"The jurisdictions that took the top 10 places, in order, were New Zealand, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands and Denmark (tied in 6th place), Ireland and the United Kingdom (tied in 8th place), and Finland, Norway, and Taiwan (tied in 10th place). Selected countries rank as follows: Germany (13), the United States and Sweden (17), Republic of Korea (27), Japan (31), France and Chile (32), Italy (34), South Africa (63), Mexico (75)"

(CATO is an American organisation that espouses "the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace")


From Wikipedia - a collation of a few studies
United States
Freedom in the World 2019 "free"
2019 Index of Economic Freedom "mostly free"
2019 Press Freedom Index "noticeable problems"
2018 Democracy Index "flawed democracy"
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"Many more than us"


LOLOLOL!

NAME ONE!!!!
drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
kb228 wrote:
How many of those countries can you go into a store and buy an ar15 or a handgun like you can in the states? Probably zero.
Of the countries on that list, outside the US only in Chile or possibly Mauritius would you actually need to. In the rest we have about as much use for guns as I would a full factory 450. Wink
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drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
You think Hong Kong is free??? Seen any news lately......
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It's not 1776 anymore.. All countries are independent and have freedom. Many more than the us. Hard for us americans to accept I get it.
mxbrian15 wrote:
“All countries are independent and have freedom” lol! Wow.
Fun fact: out of all the “free countries” USA has the highest percentage of incarceration.. the land of the free has the least amount of free...
Fun fact: out of all the “free countries” USA has the highest percentage of incarceration.. the land of the free has the least amount of free people haha

https://youtu.be/1oyKVAjISmI
You’re basing freedom solely off of how many people commit punishable crimes? Ok.
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mxbrian15 wrote:
“All countries are independent and have freedom” lol! Wow.
Fun fact: out of all the “free countries” USA has the highest percentage of incarceration.. the land of the free has the least amount of free...
Fun fact: out of all the “free countries” USA has the highest percentage of incarceration.. the land of the free has the least amount of free people haha

https://youtu.be/1oyKVAjISmI
mxbrian15 wrote:
You’re basing freedom solely off of how many people commit punishable crimes? Ok.
Also the highest crime is in the cities with restricted freedom.. just so everyone knows. Chicago, LA, New York, etc...
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LOLOLOL!

NAME ONE!!!!
drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
kb228 wrote:
How many of those countries can you go into a store and buy an ar15 or a handgun like you can in the states? Probably zero.
Everybody has a different defintion of freedom..
For you it's owing guns. For me, as a German, being free is: go to a lake or a beach, buy a beer, strip off my clothes, drink my beer and tan my wiener in public and nobody giving a fuck about it. That's freedom for me!
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drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
shuggs wrote:
You think Hong Kong is free??? Seen any news lately......
Hong Kong is free, my dude. When taking about "freedom" - while wearing some popular caption baseball cap - you need to recognize it as collective term for freedom of:
1.) speach
2.) press
3.) movement
4.) expression

If Hong Kong wouldn't be free there would be no demonstrations and no people surviving to report about it.

Yeah, most of the world doesn't give guns in malls to the inbreds who are barely able to sign paper but that's not necessarily bad thing.
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mxbrian15 wrote:
“All countries are independent and have freedom” lol! Wow.
Fun fact: out of all the “free countries” USA has the highest percentage of incarceration.. the land of the free has the least amount of free...
Fun fact: out of all the “free countries” USA has the highest percentage of incarceration.. the land of the free has the least amount of free people haha

https://youtu.be/1oyKVAjISmI
mxbrian15 wrote:
You’re basing freedom solely off of how many people commit punishable crimes? Ok.
It’s an ironic observation made by a comedian, see the video, it’s just for a laugh don’t take it too seriously
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7/9/2019 4:56am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2019 4:57am
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LOLOLOL!

NAME ONE!!!!
drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
kb228 wrote:
How many of those countries can you go into a store and buy an ar15 or a handgun like you can in the states? Probably zero.
That’s the whole point. In those countries people don’t just judge freedom on their ability to buy a ridiculous gun. Primarily because they don’t need to have one, because they don’t live in fear of being shot by the man in the street.

If you associate the 2nd amendment with a right to bear arms to protect yourself against the government (which some people seem to still inaccurately do) then a government you live in fear of enough to buy an AR-15 is not the government of a free country.

Or, you buy an AR-15 to hunt deer. That’s some seriously dangerous deer.
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drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
shuggs wrote:
You think Hong Kong is free??? Seen any news lately......
Hong Kong is free, my dude. When taking about "freedom" - while wearing some popular caption baseball cap - you need to recognize it as collective...
Hong Kong is free, my dude. When taking about "freedom" - while wearing some popular caption baseball cap - you need to recognize it as collective term for freedom of:
1.) speach
2.) press
3.) movement
4.) expression

If Hong Kong wouldn't be free there would be no demonstrations and no people surviving to report about it.

Yeah, most of the world doesn't give guns in malls to the inbreds who are barely able to sign paper but that's not necessarily bad thing.
Just because the rest of the worlds governments dont trust their own citizens with firearms doesnt mean you need to call americans inbreds. This an american forum you know...
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drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
kb228 wrote:
How many of those countries can you go into a store and buy an ar15 or a handgun like you can in the states? Probably zero.
Beeby wrote:
That’s the whole point. In those countries people don’t just judge freedom on their ability to buy a ridiculous gun. Primarily because they don’t need to...
That’s the whole point. In those countries people don’t just judge freedom on their ability to buy a ridiculous gun. Primarily because they don’t need to have one, because they don’t live in fear of being shot by the man in the street.

If you associate the 2nd amendment with a right to bear arms to protect yourself against the government (which some people seem to still inaccurately do) then a government you live in fear of enough to buy an AR-15 is not the government of a free country.

Or, you buy an AR-15 to hunt deer. That’s some seriously dangerous deer.
I buy guns simply because i like shooting guns in my back yard. Do i need them? Yes, because on days when i dont ride i need something to do. Also its nice to have a concealed firearm when going into rough crime ridden areas. Freedom to protect yourself. Im not one of the people that thinks my weak ass ar15 is going to save me from the government. They have tanks and shit.
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Hong Kong is free, my dude. When taking about "freedom" - while wearing some popular caption baseball cap - you need to recognize it as collective...
Hong Kong is free, my dude. When taking about "freedom" - while wearing some popular caption baseball cap - you need to recognize it as collective term for freedom of:
1.) speach
2.) press
3.) movement
4.) expression

If Hong Kong wouldn't be free there would be no demonstrations and no people surviving to report about it.

Yeah, most of the world doesn't give guns in malls to the inbreds who are barely able to sign paper but that's not necessarily bad thing.
You think? Beijing 'tolerates' HK due to the amount of money it brings in. Political freedom is slowly being stifled and will probably take more than what is left of my life but it will be eroded.
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I don't even own "a" gun, let alone many guns necessitating an entire rack!
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Unfortunately the American Flag doesn't write the check.
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LOLOLOL!

NAME ONE!!!!
drifto614 wrote:
Here are some, including the USA: Hong Kong Singapore Australia New Zealand Switzerland Canada Chile Mauritius Denmark United States Ireland Bahrain Estonia United Kingdom Luxembourg Finland...
Here are some, including the USA:

Hong Kong
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Canada
Chile
Mauritius
Denmark
United States
Ireland
Bahrain
Estonia
United Kingdom
Luxembourg
Finland
Netherlands
Sweden
Germany
Taiwan
kb228 wrote:
How many of those countries can you go into a store and buy an ar15 or a handgun like you can in the states? Probably zero.
Well then... Since that is your definition of Freedom and not the rest of the World's definition, I guess you are lucky you live in America. How many times have you had to use your AR-15 or handgun in self defense?
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kb228 wrote:
Also the highest crime is in the cities with restricted freedom.. just so everyone knows. Chicago, LA, New York, etc...
States with highest incarceration rate:
[list]
[*]Louisiana.
[*]Oklahoma.
[*]Mississippi.
[*]Arizona.
[*]Arkansas.
[*]Alabama.
[*]Texas.
[*]Missouri.
[/list]
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Oh nice, a gun debate in a thread about motocross graphics.

“Why doesn’t this team run this style of graphics?”

“I don’t know but let me tell you about my AR15 and how much I need it!”
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This is some thread...
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I don't even own "a" gun, let alone many guns necessitating an entire rack!
LOL. Thread has gone to shit so what the hell...

Stacy: You don't like it? Fine. You know Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to lose me.

Wayne: I lost you 2 months ago. We broke up. Are you mental? Get the net!
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This is some thread...
Makes me glad I couldn't care less Laughing . KTM team graphics didn't make it on my list of shit to worry about yet, but I do look forward to the day that I have that much time on my hands lol
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slipdog wrote:
I don't even own "a" gun, let alone many guns necessitating an entire rack!
-MAVERICK- wrote:
LOL. Thread has gone to shit so what the hell... Stacy: You don't like it? Fine. You know Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to...
LOL. Thread has gone to shit so what the hell...

Stacy: You don't like it? Fine. You know Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to lose me.

Wayne: I lost you 2 months ago. We broke up. Are you mental? Get the net!
Take me, Garth!

Where? I'm low on gas and you need a jacket...
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Man, this thread went SIDEWAYS!!!!!!

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Look, after what the Germans did to us at Pearl Harbor I don't need to see them running our colors.
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slipdog wrote:
I don't even own "a" gun, let alone many guns necessitating an entire rack!
-MAVERICK- wrote:
LOL. Thread has gone to shit so what the hell... Stacy: You don't like it? Fine. You know Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to...
LOL. Thread has gone to shit so what the hell...

Stacy: You don't like it? Fine. You know Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to lose me.

Wayne: I lost you 2 months ago. We broke up. Are you mental? Get the net!
slipdog wrote:
Take me, Garth!

Where? I'm low on gas and you need a jacket...
Pffft. This Coke's gone bad.

Would you like to have dinner sometime?

Garth: I like to have dinner every night.
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