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He hit his dad with a hammer but i never heard or read head anywhere but in your comment... I could be wrong though. The fact that the dad and some were discharged from hospital so quickly leads me to believe it was either a toy hammer or their was zero head contact with said hammer...
Your first sentence isn’t true
Key word “Concealed” carry
If he hit my dad in the head with a hammer and doesn’t run off when I pull my gun out I’m shooting him in a non vital or life threatening part of his body in fear of him trying to do extra damage or hurt me
Also I’m not letting him run away without a fight If I don’t have one on me which would be dumb not having one
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The ONLY reason you should Ever pull a gun is if you are in fear for your life, and if you do, you put two center mass and two in the head. Pulling a gun to "scare" someone is idiotic..At the least, you'll go to jail just for that, and at the worst you"ll get yourself shot.
If there is no reason to use it, it stays put.
Of course, if he runs, you scared him off, and you don;t shoot him. But if he escalates the situation to the point you fear for your life, don't just injure him.
What started all this is you saying to just pull the gun out to scare him. That's where you're wrong. If you just want to carry to scare people, go the whole Barney Fife route and just carry one round with you and leave that round in your shirt pocket. But you won't survive long.
You said in one post I was retarded for wanting to kill people for taking my stuff. I never said that. While I think this kid was justified cracking the thief's skull with the ramp, I think he should not have beat on him after he was down. Nor do I think he should have pulled a gun to scare him.
And it's not about the stealing, it's about hitting his dad with the hammer.
The point is, pulling a gun is some serious crap. You don't do it unless you legitimately fear for your life, and if that's the case, you are probably past the point of scaring him.
The point is, if your gun is already out, and he's not shot before his gun clears leather, your still going to be deciding whether or not to shoot, and which leg to shoot, or maybe go ahead and hit a vital part, but which one, while you're bleeding out.
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When the kid attacked the father with the hammer it was "attempted murder"and "assault with a deadly weapon".
When the kid reached for the hammer the son was in "imenent danger" and "in fear for his life"
When the son hit the kid using the ramp, he was using "sufficient and nessecarry force to repel his attacker".
When the son punched the kid while he was laying face down on the ground, it could be construed to be "unreasonable force". This could be charged as a crime but I feel it is unlikely in this case.
As for fighting and shooting:
I have studied, trained in and taught martial arts for 50 years and I do have some experience in this matter. Also I was competetive shooter and competed with pistols, rifles and shotguns. So I do have a qualified opinion on this as well.
Most people tend to overestimate their fighting abilities. If you are trained as a martial artist, boxer, wrestler or in military hand to hand combat you obviously are better equipped for such a situation. But it still requires practice and experience. Someone who has been in many fights and is accustomed to violence will react quicker and forcefully. You could still loose. Also there can be a high price for victory. You can win and still be injured or be charged criminally.
As for the shooting:
Most law enforcement shots fired miss. I forget the exact statistic but it is something like 3 shots out of 15 hit the target. SEALS, Special forces and Swat personnel practice shooting continuously just for this reason.
You do not display your weapon if you are not prepared to use it. Displaying a weapon can escalate the situation.That does not mean you shoot every time you pull it out. Further you shoot for center of mass not to kill. Head shots are for the SEALS as they are specially trainded for that. Killing maybe the result of shooting correctly. You defiantly do not want to state that you shot with intent to kill. Also if you were to shoot you continue to fire until the threat is neutralized. You can shoot and wound someone and they can still hurt or kill you.
Finally no one really knows how they will react when confronted with a sudden dangerous situation. Special training increases the odds that you react as trained but experience critical as well.
Here is what i was telling to people I was selling bikes or parts to that I was feeling were quite shaddy (always talk and talk nice and ask questions to know the people you are dealing with), just as a message in this nice discussion :
" MX bikes robbers are suicidos. It is like trying to rob a gun to a hunter, that is not a good idea. MX people are plain crazy since they are kids, they jump and sometimes crash on 100ft table tops at 60mph and robbers think it is a good idea to visit them ... Good luck getting out of the house, and good luck sleeping on both ears when they know the robber identity after being caught someday."
I was also telling my bike was not here but at another place, but in the end my garage with a light door and not attached bikes have never been forced.
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