Justin Cooper podium interview

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Xavier 6/1/2019 7:35pm
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I found it actually surprising that nothing was said (on TV) and done (by the AMA) about AC's Pala Moto 1 start, where he went straight for the side lane (with firmer dirt), outside the yellow markers..

I originally thought that he was bumped out of his line but the video replay says otherwise, he just goes for it and doesn't try one bit to get back on the track during the whole straightaway :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31eGgT7Roi8

He did't get a great start but still exited in 12th or so, much better than what he would have been if he had not stayed absolutely flat out on that lane outside the start.

So if you're his main competition (Cooper/Star Racing) you may see it as "twice in a row" and feel like you need to point it out more, especially as the AMA has not reacted to the Pala start (that we know of).


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A slight get off lol
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Link to the interview?
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Good lord, I got 6 comments in and had to quit.


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If Adam didn't break the rules, then JC is wrong. OK. Fine.

But can we all agree the rule is fucking dumb? If you fuck up so bad that you're in other sections of the track, you shouldn't be able to come back on the track without losing time. And don't give me that "well after rider X got back on the track he made sure he didn't gain any time". Bullshit. I mean fuck, Sexton ended up in New Mexico after his fuckup but magically ended up right behind the guy he was battling with.

New Rule: If you leave the track, slow down enough so you can safely turn around and reenter the track where you left it.

Oh and another thing while I'm on my soon-to-be-downvoted-100-times-rant, keep the mules away from the track. Those assholes park them right next to the yellow markers. If a rider goes off track where one of those jackholes is parked, they are going to end their life as a mule hood ornament. I could maybe see an argument for the Astars med unit, but fuck guys, park it at least 30 feet from the track.
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NateDawg 6/1/2019 8:29pm
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SlasherMcGee wrote:
If Adam didn't break the rules, then JC is wrong. OK. Fine. But can we all agree the rule is fucking dumb? If you fuck up...
If Adam didn't break the rules, then JC is wrong. OK. Fine.

But can we all agree the rule is fucking dumb? If you fuck up so bad that you're in other sections of the track, you shouldn't be able to come back on the track without losing time. And don't give me that "well after rider X got back on the track he made sure he didn't gain any time". Bullshit. I mean fuck, Sexton ended up in New Mexico after his fuckup but magically ended up right behind the guy he was battling with.

New Rule: If you leave the track, slow down enough so you can safely turn around and reenter the track where you left it.

Oh and another thing while I'm on my soon-to-be-downvoted-100-times-rant, keep the mules away from the track. Those assholes park them right next to the yellow markers. If a rider goes off track where one of those jackholes is parked, they are going to end their life as a mule hood ornament. I could maybe see an argument for the Astars med unit, but fuck guys, park it at least 30 feet from the track.
Going the opposite direction of race bikes going 40-50 mph is a dumb idea and completely unsafe. It's the reason the rule was changed in the first place.
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SlasherMcGee 6/1/2019 8:35pm
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SlasherMcGee wrote:
If Adam didn't break the rules, then JC is wrong. OK. Fine. But can we all agree the rule is fucking dumb? If you fuck up...
If Adam didn't break the rules, then JC is wrong. OK. Fine.

But can we all agree the rule is fucking dumb? If you fuck up so bad that you're in other sections of the track, you shouldn't be able to come back on the track without losing time. And don't give me that "well after rider X got back on the track he made sure he didn't gain any time". Bullshit. I mean fuck, Sexton ended up in New Mexico after his fuckup but magically ended up right behind the guy he was battling with.

New Rule: If you leave the track, slow down enough so you can safely turn around and reenter the track where you left it.

Oh and another thing while I'm on my soon-to-be-downvoted-100-times-rant, keep the mules away from the track. Those assholes park them right next to the yellow markers. If a rider goes off track where one of those jackholes is parked, they are going to end their life as a mule hood ornament. I could maybe see an argument for the Astars med unit, but fuck guys, park it at least 30 feet from the track.
NateDawg wrote:
Going the opposite direction of race bikes going 40-50 mph is a dumb idea and completely unsafe. It's the reason the rule was changed in the...
Going the opposite direction of race bikes going 40-50 mph is a dumb idea and completely unsafe. It's the reason the rule was changed in the first place.
What are you talking about? Where did I say they should go the opposite direction of the race bikes?

The rider is off the track, they slow down. they go to the place where they left the track, they enter the track, and they resume the race.
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SlasherMcGee wrote:
If Adam didn't break the rules, then JC is wrong. OK. Fine. But can we all agree the rule is fucking dumb? If you fuck up...
If Adam didn't break the rules, then JC is wrong. OK. Fine.

But can we all agree the rule is fucking dumb? If you fuck up so bad that you're in other sections of the track, you shouldn't be able to come back on the track without losing time. And don't give me that "well after rider X got back on the track he made sure he didn't gain any time". Bullshit. I mean fuck, Sexton ended up in New Mexico after his fuckup but magically ended up right behind the guy he was battling with.

New Rule: If you leave the track, slow down enough so you can safely turn around and reenter the track where you left it.

Oh and another thing while I'm on my soon-to-be-downvoted-100-times-rant, keep the mules away from the track. Those assholes park them right next to the yellow markers. If a rider goes off track where one of those jackholes is parked, they are going to end their life as a mule hood ornament. I could maybe see an argument for the Astars med unit, but fuck guys, park it at least 30 feet from the track.
NateDawg wrote:
Going the opposite direction of race bikes going 40-50 mph is a dumb idea and completely unsafe. It's the reason the rule was changed in the...
Going the opposite direction of race bikes going 40-50 mph is a dumb idea and completely unsafe. It's the reason the rule was changed in the first place.
SlasherMcGee wrote:
What are you talking about? Where did I say they should go the opposite direction of the race bikes? The rider is off the track, they...
What are you talking about? Where did I say they should go the opposite direction of the race bikes?

The rider is off the track, they slow down. they go to the place where they left the track, they enter the track, and they resume the race.
NateDawg is correct. One of the reasons the new (good) rule was put in place was because your approach resulted in riders going backward on the track. The current rule is great. AC did no wrong and was vindicated.
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Boomslang 6/1/2019 9:00pm
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Frère Jacques wrote:
How dare 20 year old cooper get upset that 10 year 250 class golden boy made a big mistake yet somehow lost no time
Either Adam was 12 years old when he entered the 250 Pro Class or you are just plain stupid....take your pick.
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tcallahan707 6/1/2019 9:01pm
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NateDawg wrote:
Going the opposite direction of race bikes going 40-50 mph is a dumb idea and completely unsafe. It's the reason the rule was changed in the...
Going the opposite direction of race bikes going 40-50 mph is a dumb idea and completely unsafe. It's the reason the rule was changed in the first place.
SlasherMcGee wrote:
What are you talking about? Where did I say they should go the opposite direction of the race bikes? The rider is off the track, they...
What are you talking about? Where did I say they should go the opposite direction of the race bikes?

The rider is off the track, they slow down. they go to the place where they left the track, they enter the track, and they resume the race.
moto0852 wrote:
NateDawg is correct. One of the reasons the new (good) rule was put in place was because your approach resulted in riders going backward on the...
NateDawg is correct. One of the reasons the new (good) rule was put in place was because your approach resulted in riders going backward on the track. The current rule is great. AC did no wrong and was vindicated.
Did no wrong is the problem. He DID do something wrong. Yet, there were ZERO consequences. Same with Sexton. And the hundreds of other times it's happen. The rule is shit.

I'm curious outdoors how riders go backwards on the track if they are off the track and need to re-enter? Seems to me that they are off the track.
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Boomslang 6/1/2019 9:02pm
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Either Adam was 12 years old when he entered the 250 Pro Class or you are just plain stupid....take your pick.
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PRM31 6/1/2019 9:10pm
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There’s no way what Adam did should be legal. It may be legal now, but they need to address that. Was it Sexton that did a similar thing, actually worse, in the first Moto? Not right.
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Boomslang wrote:
Either Adam was 12 years old when he entered the 250 Pro Class or you are just plain stupid....take your pick.
All I know is 12 yr. olds shouldn't be forced to ride backwards on tracks!
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crowe176 6/1/2019 9:31pm
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Don’t line the tracks with 1000’ of banner without gaps to enter or exit the track..
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cbuehler767 6/1/2019 9:41pm
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Wishing a rider smashes his head off the ground? Classy
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RexEasely 6/1/2019 9:42pm
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cooper should bitch about that hideous gear and no the clean entry from AC
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Xavier wrote:
I found it actually surprising that nothing was said (on TV) and done (by the AMA) about AC's Pala Moto 1 start, where he went straight...
I found it actually surprising that nothing was said (on TV) and done (by the AMA) about AC's Pala Moto 1 start, where he went straight for the side lane (with firmer dirt), outside the yellow markers..

I originally thought that he was bumped out of his line but the video replay says otherwise, he just goes for it and doesn't try one bit to get back on the track during the whole straightaway :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31eGgT7Roi8

He did't get a great start but still exited in 12th or so, much better than what he would have been if he had not stayed absolutely flat out on that lane outside the start.

So if you're his main competition (Cooper/Star Racing) you may see it as "twice in a row" and feel like you need to point it out more, especially as the AMA has not reacted to the Pala start (that we know of).


I believe DC himself said several years ago that the Acerbis track markers are not the official boundary but merely a suggestion
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aeffertz 6/1/2019 10:11pm
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He’s a diva on his like 20th account. Not a surprise to see him again.

Can’t believe I read through this whole thread. It’s honestly frustrating trying to understand some of your opinions.
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dirtworldmx 6/2/2019 12:26am
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Blasphemy! You can't just go around criticizing Baby Jesus like that! I heard 30 million signatures have already been gathered on a petition demanding Cooper be banned from the sport and removed from society. Smooth move, buddy.

Watch yourself, Ferrandis. You're next!
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Geez some of you guys can't see the forest for the trees, just because you like one rider better than the other you can't seem to see plain actions even when they happen in front of you. It should be about the plain hard rules and what happened not personality.
If you guys were the AMA, riders would be treated differently because of who they are not what they did.....oh wait....
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motonation24 6/2/2019 1:29am
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I expected Adam to re-enter track going up the hill but when he didn’t I thought he must of been looking for the next opening on track.
If he had of got straight back on the track the outcome would of been the same..
He slowed up and went back on without gaining any time. (Same distance behind Cooper)

Also if your Justin Cooper is that really how you want to win your first overall? The douche just needs to move on, Do Not vent openly about it on the podium ! He got lucky with the first moto getting red flagged as well, AC was moving !
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Not a fan of this guy.
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Remember that Cooper had probably not seen the vid when he was on the podium. Cooper sees AC cutting out right behind him. He had not seen AC slowing down and letting the gap get bigger.
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Remember that Cooper had probably not seen the vid when he was on the podium. Cooper sees AC cutting out right behind him. He had not...
Remember that Cooper had probably not seen the vid when he was on the podium. Cooper sees AC cutting out right behind him. He had not seen AC slowing down and letting the gap get bigger.
Exactly what i was thinking. He was clearly distracted by Adam, but Adam did everything right, so he deserves the overall. It's only Coopers second pro year, it has to be a hard mental game for him. Don't be to harsh with him guys.
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AC’s thoughts on the situation. Does anyone know why there was no one else at the press conference?

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One just shouldn't be able to skip such large amounts of track with no penalty whatsoever, like allowed by the current rules.
That said, at Thunder Valley, AC did it with more class / fairness than anyone I can remember in a similar situation, so it would have been brutal to take a win away for that specific action.
However and again, one must remember the Pala Moto 1 start and in that case AC was much, much more at odds with the "spirit of the rule", IMO.
Star Racing did't protest that one and the AMA, since no-one protested, said/did nothing (as far as we know).
So one can imagine that the Team couldn't let happen, twice in a row, such "flirting with the rules" to go on, on AC's part.
A championship is at stakes and it involves at least two of their guys.
Even if they were denied, they were right to protest and put some pressure on both AC's camp and the AMA for the upcoming races.
Had they done it already at Pala, resulting on some sort of penalty/warning for AC, the outcome of the Thunder Valley episode would have probably been different.
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