Kawi the last few years

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bw56 4/7/2019 12:22pm
4/7/2019 12:22pm
Stock models on all bikes (as far as I know) vent the crank case into the valve cover, maybe a factory Kawi is different. That bike smokes often, and only fails occasionally....
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hunterp27 4/7/2019 1:25pm
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Pretty sure it was his muffler bearings......
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FIREfish148 4/7/2019 5:38pm
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Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main.

Interesting how ole Mike exits and they start having bike problems. Not sure what the circumstances are but If I was running that team I would be doing trying everything to get the dude back just for the peace of mind.
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Johnny Ringo 4/7/2019 5:39pm
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FIREfish148 wrote:
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main. Interesting how...
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main.

Interesting how ole Mike exits and they start having bike problems. Not sure what the circumstances are but If I was running that team I would be doing trying everything to get the dude back just for the peace of mind.
Williamson was there for all the other malfunctions
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kb228 4/7/2019 5:46pm
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RV had none.
Joeys bike was fine.
Elis smoked from being hot. Abusing the clutch does that. Half his mechanicals were from him going down and breaking the bike. Relax.
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Andy7 4/7/2019 5:53pm
4/7/2019 5:53pm Edited Date/Time 4/7/2019 5:58pm
So you are saying that Kawasaki's 450 production mx bike is sh!t because Kawasaki's 450 factory bike has issues (whatever issue), knowing already that it is not even close to a production bike. Seems legit.
Edit: This one is for those that were derailing the OP's point.
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milliebays 4/7/2019 6:22pm
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kb228 wrote:
RV had none. Joeys bike was fine. Elis smoked from being hot. Abusing the clutch does that. Half his mechanicals were from him going down and...
RV had none.
Joeys bike was fine.
Elis smoked from being hot. Abusing the clutch does that. Half his mechanicals were from him going down and breaking the bike. Relax.
Joey's bike quit in Oakland bro. where there's smoke (sorry 4 pun) there's fire.
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Rotaholic 4/7/2019 7:34pm
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Didn't a heap of kawis have issues at the mxgp last year also?
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DPR250R 4/7/2019 7:45pm
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FIREfish148 wrote:
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main. Interesting how...
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main.

Interesting how ole Mike exits and they start having bike problems. Not sure what the circumstances are but If I was running that team I would be doing trying everything to get the dude back just for the peace of mind.
See if your DVR has a “live” setting. It allows you to extend the recording past the scheduled end of a program.

I set mine for an extra half hour and that seems to catch everything, even in the case of a red flag or two.
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thatswhathappens 4/7/2019 7:54pm
4/7/2019 7:54pm
I wonder if Eli’s performances lately are partly due to not being confident in the reliability of the bike. With the level they’re riding at, and with so many mechanical issues happening in the past, that’s gotta be in the back of your mind somewhere.
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FIREfish148 4/7/2019 10:06pm
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FIREfish148 wrote:
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main. Interesting how...
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main.

Interesting how ole Mike exits and they start having bike problems. Not sure what the circumstances are but If I was running that team I would be doing trying everything to get the dude back just for the peace of mind.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Williamson was there for all the other malfunctions
No doubt, I'm sure he learned from all of them too.
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FIREfish148 4/7/2019 10:09pm
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FIREfish148 wrote:
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main. Interesting how...
Hopefully they get it figured out. I was relieved to see he won after my DVR cut the recording half way through the main.

Interesting how ole Mike exits and they start having bike problems. Not sure what the circumstances are but If I was running that team I would be doing trying everything to get the dude back just for the peace of mind.
DPR250R wrote:
See if your DVR has a “live” setting. It allows you to extend the recording past the scheduled end of a program. I set mine for...
See if your DVR has a “live” setting. It allows you to extend the recording past the scheduled end of a program.

I set mine for an extra half hour and that seems to catch everything, even in the case of a red flag or two.
Shit, I can hardly remember to pay my rent on time let alone set up my DVR Grinning
fullfloater 4/7/2019 10:15pm
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Typical Kawasaki 450, they are junk just like back in the early to mid 80's. I went through more trannies then a Saturday night on the...
Typical Kawasaki 450, they are junk just like back in the early to mid 80's. I went through more trannies then a Saturday night on the strip.
Wait a minute, you went through a lot of trannies on the strip?
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Turbojez 4/8/2019 1:46am
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Bud Racing 250F's DNF rate in the last years was kind of worrying, but then again, those bikes don't share many parts with stock bikes.

As far as Eli's bike reliability, I don't think there's anything to be concerned about. After a solid performance at this year's mudder I think it's safe to say that bike is battle tested.

On the other hand, just imagine the outrage if Webb's KTM broke, tightening the title chase...
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spimx 4/8/2019 10:28am
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The stock 19 kx has had problems too. So far my 18 has been bulletproof.
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Sleapy 4/8/2019 11:51am
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MOTO732 wrote:
So it was the engine? For a second there I was hoping Eli wasn't buying his suspension from vital members...lol.
I thought it was the shock, it looked like it was coming from lower on the bike and it only smoked when the shock was compressed. Is it possible he blew a seal and the fluids inside were splashing onto the exhaust when the shock compressed, causing it to steam? Not sure how it did it in the LCQ and Main, unless the team determined it wasn't race-threatening and decided not to fix it...
Squirrelings 4/8/2019 11:58am
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Rotaholic wrote:
Didn't a heap of kawis have issues at the mxgp last year also?
Lots of failures at MXDN, but they weren't the only ones. Also riding brand new models that didn't have proper durability testing for those conditions after building the race bikes, I'm sure. Track was deep, wet, and brutal.
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SmokinJoe439 4/8/2019 12:06pm
4/8/2019 12:06pm
That's kawie's new smoke screen function for when you pass your competition you can lay down a smoke screen.

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zehn 4/8/2019 12:15pm
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Sleapy wrote:
I thought it was the shock, it looked like it was coming from lower on the bike and it only smoked when the shock was compressed...
I thought it was the shock, it looked like it was coming from lower on the bike and it only smoked when the shock was compressed. Is it possible he blew a seal and the fluids inside were splashing onto the exhaust when the shock compressed, causing it to steam? Not sure how it did it in the LCQ and Main, unless the team determined it wasn't race-threatening and decided not to fix it...
The back end wasn't bouncing all over the place like the shock was losing oil so I doubt it was a problem with the shock
project racer 4/8/2019 12:42pm
4/8/2019 12:42pm
Breather hose / crank vent popped off the fitting on the cases? They blow some oil through that hose.
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Nystrom7 4/8/2019 12:44pm
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In stock form they are very reliable att least thats my experience.
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scrallex 4/8/2019 12:48pm
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I may be seeing something different from you all but it seems that the bike is more likely to fail when it isn't smoking. At Red Bud and Nashville the bike quit with zero indication that is was going to. I don't recall Joey's bike smoking before expiring at Oakland but I may be wrong there. Also, I don't know if it's just in my head, but it seems that ET's bike is smoking nearly every weekend. Pulp said that his sources at Kawi believe it's the breather hose for the case (which would explain why the smoke is emitting from near the shock). It would be an OEM fix if that were the case in which case I would expect to see some changes to the cases for the 2020 model. Does not look good having a bike smoke that much in a season. . .
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milliebays 4/8/2019 12:50pm
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I may be seeing something different from you all but it seems that the bike is more likely to fail when it [i]isn't[/i] smoking. At Red...
I may be seeing something different from you all but it seems that the bike is more likely to fail when it isn't smoking. At Red Bud and Nashville the bike quit with zero indication that is was going to. I don't recall Joey's bike smoking before expiring at Oakland but I may be wrong there. Also, I don't know if it's just in my head, but it seems that ET's bike is smoking nearly every weekend. Pulp said that his sources at Kawi believe it's the breather hose for the case (which would explain why the smoke is emitting from near the shock). It would be an OEM fix if that were the case in which case I would expect to see some changes to the cases for the 2020 model. Does not look good having a bike smoke that much in a season. . .
maybe it only stops when it's out of oil Smile Smile Smile


it smoked to a limited extent.

probably not related to whatever caused the seizure, but the optics aren't goo

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