Anderson has lost his fire?

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early 1/20/2019 3:16pm
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gym_jackets wrote:
For some perspective, his fastest lap in Main 3 was 1.5 seconds slower than his worst lap in Main 1. That's a dude riding hurt, and...
For some perspective, his fastest lap in Main 3 was 1.5 seconds slower than his worst lap in Main 1. That's a dude riding hurt, and 36 minutes of racing caught up to him.
13 minutes after the restart caught up to him in Glendale
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gym_jackets 1/20/2019 3:37pm
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gym_jackets wrote:
For some perspective, his fastest lap in Main 3 was 1.5 seconds slower than his worst lap in Main 1. That's a dude riding hurt, and...
For some perspective, his fastest lap in Main 3 was 1.5 seconds slower than his worst lap in Main 1. That's a dude riding hurt, and 36 minutes of racing caught up to him.
early wrote:
13 minutes after the restart caught up to him in Glendale
And even 13 is probably being generous
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jonesaustin 1/20/2019 3:46pm
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I don't think he's riding hurt. this is a mental defeat -- so many good riders, and no tip of the spear. that's disheartening to all the athletes who assumed they'd be at the top. the ones who benefit in this malaise are those who were counted out, the underdogs who had the speed all along, and less to lose. Tomac will keep winning I imagine, but for the moment, no one is in control. the big question is, can Webb pull from his gut and assume a dominant mindset.
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jonesaustin wrote:
I don't think he's riding hurt. this is a mental defeat -- so many good riders, and no tip of the spear. that's disheartening to all...
I don't think he's riding hurt. this is a mental defeat -- so many good riders, and no tip of the spear. that's disheartening to all the athletes who assumed they'd be at the top. the ones who benefit in this malaise are those who were counted out, the underdogs who had the speed all along, and less to lose. Tomac will keep winning I imagine, but for the moment, no one is in control. the big question is, can Webb pull from his gut and assume a dominant mindset.
Have you even been watching the races? He's fading big time. That's physical. If he was second guessing himself he wouldn't have passed Roczen in Arizona.
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SoCalMX70 1/20/2019 4:01pm
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For anyone who thinks last week was good, it really wasn't. I have a feeling he was extremely thankful for the time he had to rest before the staggered restart. He was aggressive and made his moves early then he looked horrible after a few more laps. That was his race to lose, and he lost it with zero fight.

I already said this in another thread, but you see it in his body English every week. As RC would say, he starts "laboring" and loses all aggression after a short time. He doesn't have 20 minutes in him right now. Why? Guess we may find out eventually. Not physically fit (lack of serious off season training?), not mentally fit (#1 too heavy?), Injury? All of the above?
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BobPA 1/20/2019 4:07pm
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Thumbs me down but he won the title due to being the last surviving rider. Hes proving it this year.
I’m guessing you didn’t watch any of the races last year...you must be back in Acidreamer mode...he was as fast as anyone last year, and look like a totally different rider. All the aggression is gone, almost like he is riding scared. He faded big time last week with the lead.

Either he is hurt, or slacked off with the hipsters in the offseason....either way, his riding is suffering.

Thanks for the down vote H4L....pussy Tongue Tongue Tongue
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The hangover is lasting longer than normal.
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whateversclever69 1/20/2019 4:30pm
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I’m actually concerned for the dudes mental health. Could be off base here, but toward the end of last year he wasn’t doing well. When he won the championship and was so sick he couldn’t stay for the presser I was genuinely empathetic for the guy. I hope he’s not struggling more than he need to over racing.
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PClaerhout 1/20/2019 4:36pm
1/20/2019 4:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/20/2019 4:37pm
Maybe he couldnt balance training and personal life along with the obligations of a champion. He even spoke about how getting his ring was a distraction and wants to forget about last year. Seems like mentally hed rather be the guy flying under the radar and its taking its toll and showing on the track.
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Racer111 1/20/2019 4:49pm
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I’m going to say he isn’t hurt. I think his fitness is hurting. Doing his own training instead of being under the eye of Aldon is definitely going to reflect in his results.

Dungey trained on his own for a long time, but still went next level once he hired Aldon.

I don’t see Anderson winning a single main unless one falls in his lap this year.
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jonesaustin 1/20/2019 5:02pm
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jonesaustin wrote:
I don't think he's riding hurt. this is a mental defeat -- so many good riders, and no tip of the spear. that's disheartening to all...
I don't think he's riding hurt. this is a mental defeat -- so many good riders, and no tip of the spear. that's disheartening to all the athletes who assumed they'd be at the top. the ones who benefit in this malaise are those who were counted out, the underdogs who had the speed all along, and less to lose. Tomac will keep winning I imagine, but for the moment, no one is in control. the big question is, can Webb pull from his gut and assume a dominant mindset.
BikeGuy321 wrote:
Have you even been watching the races? He's fading big time. That's physical. If he was second guessing himself he wouldn't have passed Roczen in Arizona.
Hey who knows? All I can tell yous peoples is, I mean, carrying the number one plate is heavy, am I right?
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Jrewing 1/21/2019 2:47am
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Definitely hipster lifestyle. Veganism will catch up with you eventually
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powertrip456 1/21/2019 2:58am
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I haven’t seen any shameless promotion of 4Arm Strong lately by him or anyone. Maybe he just has arm pump?
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BobKerr 1/21/2019 5:28am
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JT$ said on one of the post race podcasts that from the way he is riding, it is apparent that he spent some time off the bike during the off season. I agree with his assessment.
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Kyle_McNab 1/21/2019 5:47am
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I’m sure there is some type of injury. After Glendale I thought he was good but also he mentioned all the obligations he’s has being the champion. He made mention of it at A1 .i don’t know why feld wouldn’t just gave him a the championship ring in Vegas last year or the banquet. I think he’s tried of all the things you are obligated to do and it seems he doesn’t want to deal with all that again and it’s taking away his focus
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Neverclear 1/21/2019 6:17am
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He did an interview early last season where he was talking about how he almost met the financial goals he set for himself. He made a comment saying that he probably could retire at that moment, but living the rest of his life on his current savings would be a stretch.
Then he won a boatload of cash for winning the title.

I imagine he has exceeded his goals, and finding the motivation to run himself to the edge of control has become difficult. He doesn't seem like the type who wants to be a moto legend, so maybe he is thinking more about post race life now that he doesn't have to worry about money.If that's the case, I can totally understand the inconsistency.

Or maybe he's just injured. Either way, he won a 450 SX title by hauling ass when he needed to, so he gets my respect.
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drt410 1/21/2019 6:25am
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Racer111 wrote:
I’m going to say he isn’t hurt. I think his fitness is hurting. Doing his own training instead of being under the eye of Aldon is...
I’m going to say he isn’t hurt. I think his fitness is hurting. Doing his own training instead of being under the eye of Aldon is definitely going to reflect in his results.

Dungey trained on his own for a long time, but still went next level once he hired Aldon.

I don’t see Anderson winning a single main unless one falls in his lap this year.
The only thing is nothing changed since last year n he won. He left FL then won a championship so its not that.
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Turbojez 1/21/2019 6:38am
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My guess would be riding with an injury.
He only looks like himself for about 25-40% of each race then gets pumped up and switches over to survival mode.

He's not the same guy this year, for whatever reasons seems unable to stay in his zone.
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Kenny Lingus 1/21/2019 7:38am
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Hmm.... notice anything odd?

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BobKerr 1/21/2019 7:48am
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Anderson and Reed got together just a little bit there on the first lap of the 3rd main. Did something happen to Anderson or his bike?
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DTR830 1/21/2019 7:55am
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Neverclear wrote:
He did an interview early last season where he was talking about how he almost met the financial goals he set for himself. He made a...
He did an interview early last season where he was talking about how he almost met the financial goals he set for himself. He made a comment saying that he probably could retire at that moment, but living the rest of his life on his current savings would be a stretch.
Then he won a boatload of cash for winning the title.

I imagine he has exceeded his goals, and finding the motivation to run himself to the edge of control has become difficult. He doesn't seem like the type who wants to be a moto legend, so maybe he is thinking more about post race life now that he doesn't have to worry about money.If that's the case, I can totally understand the inconsistency.

Or maybe he's just injured. Either way, he won a 450 SX title by hauling ass when he needed to, so he gets my respect.
He is also involved with the real estate game.
HonDawg17 1/21/2019 8:05am
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Luck last year

True colors this year
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aFACEdismembered 1/21/2019 8:09am
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Last week was pretty good..
He got lucky with the red flag last week IMO. He only had to race for 8 minutes before getting a 10 minute breather and then Baggett caught him after the restart at about the 8 minute mark (4 minutes to go) and dropped him like an anchor.
GeorgiePorgie 1/21/2019 8:09am
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Kenny Lingus wrote:
Hmm.... notice anything odd? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/01/21/319642/s1200_IMG_20190121_103236202.jpg[/img]
Hmm.... notice anything odd?

A shoulder injury would hinder the shit out of any pro........

also feel like these guys want to retire too. Riding at that level, living and dieing it from a kid, to into your early 30's is a long time at a job. Can't blame them for losing fire/burnout and wanting to just retire after they've made enough money they see fit to live off of....
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Kenny Lingus wrote:
Hmm.... notice anything odd? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/01/21/319642/s1200_IMG_20190121_103236202.jpg[/img]
Hmm.... notice anything odd?

Honest question(s)
1. Why would Anderson & Husky be SO secretive about an injury (and I think an injury is involved here)
2. Why would Anderson & Husky risk making an injury worst by competing? Would it be because -as it happened in outdoors- they'd be a no-rider team (with Zach out due to injuries) for a couple of rounds?
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MOTO732 1/21/2019 8:26am
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For some reason I have never seen Anderson as a "factory" rider. He's great for the sport but on any given night, if the top guys ride as they should, he is a top 10 guy at best the way it seems. I know he finished second last week, but that looks like an anomaly this season. He goes backwards faster than he goes forward for some reason this year. Plus, I don't feel the other riders actually respect the guy as a great SX rider. I hope he wins a race or two this season, but I don't see it happening.
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BobPA 1/21/2019 8:28am
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For some reason I have never seen Anderson as a "factory" rider. He's great for the sport but on any given night, if the top guys...
For some reason I have never seen Anderson as a "factory" rider. He's great for the sport but on any given night, if the top guys ride as they should, he is a top 10 guy at best the way it seems. I know he finished second last week, but that looks like an anomaly this season. He goes backwards faster than he goes forward for some reason this year. Plus, I don't feel the other riders actually respect the guy as a great SX rider. I hope he wins a race or two this season, but I don't see it happening.
So did you just not watch all of last season? Are you that blind?

Aside from Eli, Kenny, and Marv who else has anything for Anderson when they are all healthy?
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Phantom 661 1/21/2019 8:30am
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He's over it. Found out what it's like to win a championship and now he's just going through the motions. Of course I think my theory is bogus but thought I'd throw out something different. By this time last year we all new Ando wasn't messing around. I got the impression last season that Ando had a hard time giving himself credit for what he accomplished... at least it appeared that way in various podium interviews. To sum up... I have no clue what's up with him.

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