Broc Tickle admits it?

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Edited Date/Time 12/1/2018 5:07pm
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is what it is, I got caught" and he quickly says after "I got dealt the cards I did"

I've always been a fan of Tickle, but this sounded kind of strange.
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KirkChandler 11/29/2018 7:24pm
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I don’t think he ever admitted to doing it on purpose. He said he was caught with it in his system and he didn’t know how it got there, but it was there so he will be punished.
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dPayne117 11/29/2018 7:37pm
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If Tickle stated as Honda11 is saying ... "It is what it is, I got caught."

Mmmm....pretty obvious disclosure.
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Helda 11/29/2018 7:43pm
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I haven't listened to it but yeah sounds guilty to me if that's how it was said
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burn1986 11/29/2018 7:56pm
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I don’t think Broc intentionally cheated or said “I’m gonna use this and skirt the system”. He took some performance stuff carelessly and he took one with the banned stuff. Those are the cards he’s been dealt, or those are the unfortunate consequences. He’s just saying it is what it is.
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Freudian slip?
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Theres stuff you can buy at wal mart that makes a huge difference on a bicycle. Pre-workout powders, shakes..gu, gells..
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It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
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"Let's take a single sentence from a recorded, on the spot interview totally out of context and use it as an admission of guilt" - Vital Forum
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freebroctickle 11/29/2018 9:09pm
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This is EXACTLY why people pay lawyers. Bc the average guy can't possibly parse all the various connotations of every word that comes out of his mouth.

Broc didn't "admit" anything. He used the word "caught," when a better word for what he was actually trying to say would have been "identified." He is adamant that he doesn't know how he came in contact with the drug, so it's pretty dumb to assume otherwise from one poor word choice.
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Honda11 wrote:
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is...
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is what it is, I got caught" and he quickly says after "I got dealt the cards I did"

I've always been a fan of Tickle, but this sounded kind of strange.
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt that he was on the innocent side.

MX Sports uses USADA for testing and administration. Their penalty for the same thing he got busted for would be between 6 and 18 month. Unfortunately his positive test was on the SX side, which gets testing from WADA and penalties from the FIM.
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GuyB 11/29/2018 9:13pm
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Monk wrote:
It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
That’s okay, a certain percentage of riders think that a lot of the users here are completely ignorant about how things work in the pro ranks. Occasionally they’re proven wrong.
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Honda11 wrote:
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is...
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is what it is, I got caught" and he quickly says after "I got dealt the cards I did"

I've always been a fan of Tickle, but this sounded kind of strange.
GuyB wrote:
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt...
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt that he was on the innocent side.

MX Sports uses USADA for testing and administration. Their penalty for the same thing he got busted for would be between 6 and 18 month. Unfortunately his positive test was on the SX side, which gets testing from WADA and penalties from the FIM.
Why is that? I thought USADA were still under the overall umbrella of WADA. Surely they have to keep to the same penalties otherwise WADA intervene?
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KDXGarage 11/29/2018 10:28pm
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Monk wrote:
It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
GuyB wrote:
That’s okay, a certain percentage of riders think that a lot of the users here are completely ignorant about how things work in the pro ranks...
That’s okay, a certain percentage of riders think that a lot of the users here are completely ignorant about how things work in the pro ranks. Occasionally they’re proven wrong.
Check your autocorrect. It replaced "ALMOST ALWAYS" with "Occasionally".
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Honda11 wrote:
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is...
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is what it is, I got caught" and he quickly says after "I got dealt the cards I did"

I've always been a fan of Tickle, but this sounded kind of strange.
GuyB wrote:
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt...
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt that he was on the innocent side.

MX Sports uses USADA for testing and administration. Their penalty for the same thing he got busted for would be between 6 and 18 month. Unfortunately his positive test was on the SX side, which gets testing from WADA and penalties from the FIM.
And the truth of the matter is, if one was to cheat with PEDs the benefit would be far greater in MX than in SX. It just doesn't make sense. To me, I don't even feel like the penalties for "cheating" should be the same from sport to sport.
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Honda11 wrote:
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is...
While listening to the audio clip from the article on the home page about Broc, at about 7:42 in you can hear him say "It is what it is, I got caught" and he quickly says after "I got dealt the cards I did"

I've always been a fan of Tickle, but this sounded kind of strange.
GuyB wrote:
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt...
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt that he was on the innocent side.

MX Sports uses USADA for testing and administration. Their penalty for the same thing he got busted for would be between 6 and 18 month. Unfortunately his positive test was on the SX side, which gets testing from WADA and penalties from the FIM.
rallendude wrote:
And the truth of the matter is, if one was to cheat with PEDs the benefit would be far greater in MX than in SX. It...
And the truth of the matter is, if one was to cheat with PEDs the benefit would be far greater in MX than in SX. It just doesn't make sense. To me, I don't even feel like the penalties for "cheating" should be the same from sport to sport.
Not in all cases. I think something like Adderall would be more beneficial in SX than MX?
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Monk wrote:
It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
GuyB wrote:
That’s okay, a certain percentage of riders think that a lot of the users here are completely ignorant about how things work in the pro ranks...
That’s okay, a certain percentage of riders think that a lot of the users here are completely ignorant about how things work in the pro ranks. Occasionally they’re proven wrong.
A certain percentage of pro riders will eventually grow up and realize just how stupid they were when they were young. Of course that relates to everyone, not just pro racers...Laughing
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Steve 396 11/30/2018 7:49am
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Monk wrote:
It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
That's not it.......

Its that WADA and whoever else is working on his case is incompetent. It has taken too long for it to play out. Guilty or innocent i could give 2 shots about at this point. If he tests positive then notify, hold hearing, appeal and get it over within a couple of months. This is 2018, shouldn drag out like it has.

That's the issue most folks have.....
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Markopolo400 11/30/2018 7:55am
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GuyB wrote:
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt...
I didn’t get that impression from him at all during the conversation. There was a part that I cut out where he said that he felt that he was on the innocent side.

MX Sports uses USADA for testing and administration. Their penalty for the same thing he got busted for would be between 6 and 18 month. Unfortunately his positive test was on the SX side, which gets testing from WADA and penalties from the FIM.
I mean from where I am sitting, he got caught with a banned substance in his body so he is not innocent. Scientists in a lab proved that, and that shouldn't be debatable in my opinion.

Now the severity of the punishment as it relates to the actual advantage the substance may or may not have given him? That seems harsh.
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SeaClassExpert 11/30/2018 7:58am
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Monk wrote:
It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
GuyB wrote:
That’s okay, a certain percentage of riders think that a lot of the users here are completely ignorant about how things work in the pro ranks...
That’s okay, a certain percentage of riders think that a lot of the users here are completely ignorant about how things work in the pro ranks. Occasionally they’re proven wrong.
God damn do I love a good GuyB mic drop on a Friday morning.
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So He tested positive for a minor substance , fine his ass and suspend him the 6 months or so and get it over with.

WADA and the FIM are complete bullshit for taking so long.
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motomad724 11/30/2018 8:13am
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Helda wrote:
I haven't listened to it but yeah sounds guilty to me if that's how it was said
You haven't listened to the interview yet you still put him out there as guilty "if that's how it was said"; just brilliant
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KirkChandler wrote:
I don’t think he ever admitted to doing it on purpose. He said he was caught with it in his system and he didn’t know how...
I don’t think he ever admitted to doing it on purpose. He said he was caught with it in his system and he didn’t know how it got there, but it was there so he will be punished.
That's how I heard it, too. Not an "admission", per se.
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Monk wrote:
It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
Steve 396 wrote:
That's not it....... Its that WADA and whoever else is working on his case is incompetent. It has taken too long for it to play out...
That's not it.......

Its that WADA and whoever else is working on his case is incompetent. It has taken too long for it to play out. Guilty or innocent i could give 2 shots about at this point. If he tests positive then notify, hold hearing, appeal and get it over within a couple of months. This is 2018, shouldn drag out like it has.

That's the issue most folks have.....
What dots are you trying to connect between my statement and WADAs slow response time? Two very different things.
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Monk wrote:
It's funny that because Brock is a nice guy, we associate that we also think he's innocent.
Steve 396 wrote:
That's not it....... Its that WADA and whoever else is working on his case is incompetent. It has taken too long for it to play out...
That's not it.......

Its that WADA and whoever else is working on his case is incompetent. It has taken too long for it to play out. Guilty or innocent i could give 2 shots about at this point. If he tests positive then notify, hold hearing, appeal and get it over within a couple of months. This is 2018, shouldn drag out like it has.

That's the issue most folks have.....
Monk wrote:
What dots are you trying to connect between my statement and WADAs slow response time? Two very different things.
I don't think anyone thinks he is completely innocent or that they think that way because He is a nice guy.
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Of course he admitted it. He knows he took something he shouldnt have. Just doesnt know what it was. Unless youre keeping months of history of every little bite you eat its hard to know. If it was a preworkout or something that he doesnt normally track in my fitnesspal or whatever how would he know.
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Steve 396 wrote:
That's not it....... Its that WADA and whoever else is working on his case is incompetent. It has taken too long for it to play out...
That's not it.......

Its that WADA and whoever else is working on his case is incompetent. It has taken too long for it to play out. Guilty or innocent i could give 2 shots about at this point. If he tests positive then notify, hold hearing, appeal and get it over within a couple of months. This is 2018, shouldn drag out like it has.

That's the issue most folks have.....
FIM issues the penalty, right? In cycling the UCI often shortens tbe penalty for drugs that truly can be unknowingly ingested or in OTC products. It ain’t like Tickle was caught with HgH, EPO and a couple of blood bags.

Still, I never understood why these things take so long when the athlete isn’t even pursuing legal options to contest a finding. I wish Fancy Bears would hack WADA and FIM so we could see what’s really going on, lol.
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dPayne117 11/30/2018 8:41am
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KirkChandler wrote:
I don’t think he ever admitted to doing it on purpose. He said he was caught with it in his system and he didn’t know how...
I don’t think he ever admitted to doing it on purpose. He said he was caught with it in his system and he didn’t know how it got there, but it was there so he will be punished.
FWYT wrote:
That's how I heard it, too. Not an "admission", per se.
Key word: "caught."
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TSCHAM101 11/30/2018 8:42am
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burn1986 wrote:
I don’t think Broc intentionally cheated or said “I’m gonna use this and skirt the system”. He took some performance stuff carelessly and he took one...
I don’t think Broc intentionally cheated or said “I’m gonna use this and skirt the system”. He took some performance stuff carelessly and he took one with the banned stuff. Those are the cards he’s been dealt, or those are the unfortunate consequences. He’s just saying it is what it is.
None of this is true... unless its at a level 3 manufacturing facility(I believe that's what the highest level is called), you run the risk of cross contamination... the lower tier manufacturers don't have to label substances if its less than a gram.. but that same content will not allow you to pass a drug test...


It happens all the time...
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