2019 CRF 250 Test? Reviews?

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10/25/2018 7:11pm
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I’d say the last gen chassis is no slouch, I really like it..as far as to not upgrade to the new model yet. The forks need...
I’d say the last gen chassis is no slouch, I really like it..as far as to not upgrade to the new model yet. The forks need work, or put a set of spring forks on and be done with it.
kiwifan wrote:
Interesting, I thought most reviews were saying the suspension was the best thing going for it and one of the best suspended bikes out there in...
Interesting, I thought most reviews were saying the suspension was the best thing going for it and one of the best suspended bikes out there in 2018 plus it has spring forks..
tempura wrote:
I’m talking about the 15-17 air forksWink
I am sorry I missed the 'last gen' words lol
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tempura wrote:
I’d like to put a set of 18 forks on mine, ML mentioned they should bolt right up..or even 14crf250 spring forks are better than the...
I’d like to put a set of 18 forks on mine, ML mentioned they should bolt right up..or even 14crf250 spring forks are better than the 15-17 air forks. I’ve had my air forks tweaked, but still they are a pain in the ass to keep setting up each ride.
usafwx wrote:
This. Do you set yours up each moto during the day. I was and what a pain. They aren't terrible like so many say about air...
This. Do you set yours up each moto during the day. I was and what a pain. They aren't terrible like so many say about air forks, but definately not as good as my Yamaha KYB SSS stuff was. I had a hard time last week trying to decide between the leftover 17 and leftover 18 for $1500 more. But I just wasn't comfortable with all the issues I've seen and heard with the new engine, even if the chassis and suspension are way better. Maybe in 2020, 2021 I'll be ready for a new freshie and by then any quirks should be sorted out.
My thoughts are along the same lines, I’m waiting on the new model perhaps another year.
I don’t feel my last gen is lacking, I love it.
I’ve got my air forks working quite well, I think with the SKF Glide Kit and Seals. That did make quite a difference in feel. When set up, definitely not as bad as people say.
Yes, I have been adjusting them between moto‘s, it’s surprising how much they change throughout the day. It’s a pain in the ass..
I have also gone a day and not touched them since the morning, but it gets in my head and bugs meLaughing
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10/25/2018 8:19pm
tempura wrote:
My thoughts are along the same lines, I’m waiting on the new model perhaps another year. I don’t feel my last gen is lacking, I love...
My thoughts are along the same lines, I’m waiting on the new model perhaps another year.
I don’t feel my last gen is lacking, I love it.
I’ve got my air forks working quite well, I think with the SKF Glide Kit and Seals. That did make quite a difference in feel. When set up, definitely not as bad as people say.
Yes, I have been adjusting them between moto‘s, it’s surprising how much they change throughout the day. It’s a pain in the ass..
I have also gone a day and not touched them since the morning, but it gets in my head and bugs meLaughing
Lol. Honestly besides the air forks, this has been the most comfortable, best handling bike I've had, enough to keep me on Hondas for awhile, not sure why the hate from some. I get its slow, air forks, etc. I am excited though to move to the new bike at some point when its a bit more reliable and perhaps some more weight savings, power delivery has changed.

I think I'm gonna brave it this weekend and try to only check my pressures once...
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10/25/2018 8:56pm Edited Date/Time 10/25/2018 8:56pm
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I’d take the 18 chassis hands down. I meant the overall ergos were similar but I didn’t care too much for the 14-17 chassis.
Honda's always feel like honda - ergo wise. But agreed this new chassis is much better for outdoor. I'd make a strong arguement the old chassis...
Honda's always feel like honda - ergo wise.

But agreed this new chassis is much better for outdoor.

I'd make a strong arguement the old chassis is an AX monster - of course that series is dead
Sooooooo what youre really saying is that the older 2104-2018 chassis feels light and nimble and is a very quick turnung frame/bike.
As for the motor.....regarding the 2017 CRF250r its still basically the same engine that they came out with in 2004. Its definitely benefitted from 15 years of further refinement and If this new double overhead Cam engine follows in slightly like the lifeline of the older generation engine then in about 5-10 more years it's going to be in absolute rocket ship lol

No I realize that there had been a lot of changes to the previous generation motor over the years with fuel injection and all kinds of other things but its basic design and the way it worked is still very similar to the 1st motor they came out with.

If you lined up the 2004 engine with the 2017 engine front to back in a line Looking at them from the Ignition cover side without the carburettor or throttle body I think you'd be hard to tell them apart if the engine covers were the same color I don't know if they are or not
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10/26/2018 7:10am
word is the 19' motor is WAAAAAAY better....bottom to top!
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10/26/2018 7:51am
grunkster wrote:
word is the 19' motor is WAAAAAAY better....bottom to top!
My buddy just tried his out yesterday and said the motor was great. He said it revved quick but the power was good from bottom to top.

He did complain about the forks being stiff but he is 130lbs. Though I have been told some of the stiff feel is coming from the frame.
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brocsdad wrote:
I just had a friend call me before buying a 2019 CRF 250. He said they have them at his local dealer in SC. I haven't...
I just had a friend call me before buying a 2019 CRF 250. He said they have them at his local dealer in SC.

I haven't seen any reviews or tests of the 19 bike. I read they made improvements to the bottom end but no official tests or reviews.

Anyone?

Thanks!
From what I see on Instagram, it appears Keefer is testing the 2019 at the moment. Hopefully he will release a first ride impression soon.
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10/26/2018 10:57am
usafwx wrote:
Lol. Honestly besides the air forks, this has been the most comfortable, best handling bike I've had, enough to keep me on Hondas for awhile, not...
Lol. Honestly besides the air forks, this has been the most comfortable, best handling bike I've had, enough to keep me on Hondas for awhile, not sure why the hate from some. I get its slow, air forks, etc. I am excited though to move to the new bike at some point when its a bit more reliable and perhaps some more weight savings, power delivery has changed.

I think I'm gonna brave it this weekend and try to only check my pressures once...
How come you dropped the 19yz?
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10/26/2018 11:01am
Merge Racing posted a dyno run on our 19 CRF250 and a 19 YZF250. We took it there brand new with out anytime on it. It is on his Instagram.

Every dyno is different but will at least shows stock for stock on the same equipment.
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10/26/2018 11:28am
dizzzi2003 wrote:
Merge Racing posted a dyno run on our 19 CRF250 and a 19 YZF250. We took it there brand new with out anytime on it. It...
Merge Racing posted a dyno run on our 19 CRF250 and a 19 YZF250. We took it there brand new with out anytime on it. It is on his Instagram.

Every dyno is different but will at least shows stock for stock on the same equipment.
wow, not even close.....
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dizzzi2003 wrote:
Merge Racing posted a dyno run on our 19 CRF250 and a 19 YZF250. We took it there brand new with out anytime on it. It...
Merge Racing posted a dyno run on our 19 CRF250 and a 19 YZF250. We took it there brand new with out anytime on it. It is on his Instagram.

Every dyno is different but will at least shows stock for stock on the same equipment.
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10/26/2018 12:07pm
that dyno run makes it look like a no brainer!!
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How come you dropped the 19yz?
Maybe I didn't give it a good shot after 3 rides but I just didnt jive with it. Did it turn better than my 14-16 YZ250Fs did, yep, did it turn as good as a Honda, no. Was the power better than the Honda, hands down. Tons of cool features like electric start and wifi tuning. But in the end I never felt comfortable on it. The back end still was unpredictable to me / lacking feeling and it still felt wide up top and scrunched in the rider compartment. Sat on my Dad's 16 CRF250R when I was back home (I had one this time last year as well) and just felt so comfortable. Can't explain it but I just jive better with the Honda. Yamaha is a great bike though.
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10/27/2018 9:12am
usafwx wrote:
Maybe I didn't give it a good shot after 3 rides but I just didnt jive with it. Did it turn better than my 14-16 YZ250Fs...
Maybe I didn't give it a good shot after 3 rides but I just didnt jive with it. Did it turn better than my 14-16 YZ250Fs did, yep, did it turn as good as a Honda, no. Was the power better than the Honda, hands down. Tons of cool features like electric start and wifi tuning. But in the end I never felt comfortable on it. The back end still was unpredictable to me / lacking feeling and it still felt wide up top and scrunched in the rider compartment. Sat on my Dad's 16 CRF250R when I was back home (I had one this time last year as well) and just felt so comfortable. Can't explain it but I just jive better with the Honda. Yamaha is a great bike though.
I love my Yamaha but there’s a few things about it that still make me rethink getting rid of my 14 Crf250r. The unpredictable rear is definitely one and the front end feel coming into corners. The Honda really was a good bike. Cam, mapping and an fmf single and it was very good.
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10/27/2018 9:51am
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I love my Yamaha but there’s a few things about it that still make me rethink getting rid of my 14 Crf250r. The unpredictable rear is...
I love my Yamaha but there’s a few things about it that still make me rethink getting rid of my 14 Crf250r. The unpredictable rear is definitely one and the front end feel coming into corners. The Honda really was a good bike. Cam, mapping and an fmf single and it was very good.
Exactly. At my age and skill level I don’t need the latest and greatest just something I’m comfortable on.
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10/27/2018 5:22pm
dizzzi2003 wrote:
Merge Racing posted a dyno run on our 19 CRF250 and a 19 YZF250. We took it there brand new with out anytime on it. It...
Merge Racing posted a dyno run on our 19 CRF250 and a 19 YZF250. We took it there brand new with out anytime on it. It is on his Instagram.

Every dyno is different but will at least shows stock for stock on the same equipment.
So it was brand new and tight? Bit like suspension. Might explain something but the YZ is definitely going to be hard to beat regardless with the design and development on that engine already
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10/27/2018 7:32pm
Bit unfair that merge dyno. Brand new motor on the crf! That’s 1hp at least
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10/27/2018 10:30pm Edited Date/Time 10/27/2018 10:31pm
Unless the 19 CRF lost top-end power the dyno is not accurate. The 18 revved to 14k without nose diving.
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Dirt bike magazine 2018 250f dyno
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wow honda and suzuki really need to work on their 250 f engines.
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I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close to the weight of a kx450.
Also dual exhaust is a gimmick.
Duel exhaust and e start never made a mx bike faster.

Why would anyone want to ride a bike heavier than a 450 with at least 10 less hp. And dual exhaust sounds and looks stupid.

Honda is just driving up the price and weight of bikes which is killing the sport.
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Weighs more than ktm kx and fc 450 with 15hp less.

No thanks.

Look at the dyno. Dual exhaust = crap for bottom end. No thanks.
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Who here is tired of it "feels light" when the bike is 245lbs and 250cc.

Newtons second law of motion also applies to the 18-19 crf250 no matter how light it feels.
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10/28/2018 11:05am
jsmi33966 wrote:
I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close...
I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close to the weight of a kx450.
Also dual exhaust is a gimmick.
Duel exhaust and e start never made a mx bike faster.

Why would anyone want to ride a bike heavier than a 450 with at least 10 less hp. And dual exhaust sounds and looks stupid.

Honda is just driving up the price and weight of bikes which is killing the sport.
Have you checked the price of said KTM's lately? If that's your real beef you're on the wrong band wagon.
As for the weight of four strokes, you must be new to the sport. Judging a bike purely by weight and HP figures is also insane but KTM knows that brochure figures sell more now than what wins on Sunday. Not saying KTM's aren't a good race bike but people need to stop BJing those bikes so much when they also have their own flaws. Nothing is perfect and there are plenty of fans of the 18 model CRF on here but you clearly aren't one because you probably haven't ridden one.
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I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close...
I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close to the weight of a kx450.
Also dual exhaust is a gimmick.
Duel exhaust and e start never made a mx bike faster.

Why would anyone want to ride a bike heavier than a 450 with at least 10 less hp. And dual exhaust sounds and looks stupid.

Honda is just driving up the price and weight of bikes which is killing the sport.
Have you checked the price of said KTM's lately? If that's your real beef you're on the wrong band wagon. As for the weight of four...
Have you checked the price of said KTM's lately? If that's your real beef you're on the wrong band wagon.
As for the weight of four strokes, you must be new to the sport. Judging a bike purely by weight and HP figures is also insane but KTM knows that brochure figures sell more now than what wins on Sunday. Not saying KTM's aren't a good race bike but people need to stop BJing those bikes so much when they also have their own flaws. Nothing is perfect and there are plenty of fans of the 18 model CRF on here but you clearly aren't one because you probably haven't ridden one.
Im not new to the sport 07 08 09 were the years of the lightest jap 450s. Efi dual exhaust and e start have just brought the weight up since then.

"Of course people like the 18-19 cr250 its got 2 pipes coming out the back. Thats so cool! Mom I want one."

"Yes it weighs 245lbs with 40hp and no bottom end but youre not my dad and you can't tell me what to do!"

2 quotes from actual 18-19 cr250 guys

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10/28/2018 11:35am
jsmi33966 wrote:
I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close...
I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close to the weight of a kx450.
Also dual exhaust is a gimmick.
Duel exhaust and e start never made a mx bike faster.

Why would anyone want to ride a bike heavier than a 450 with at least 10 less hp. And dual exhaust sounds and looks stupid.

Honda is just driving up the price and weight of bikes which is killing the sport.
Have you checked the price of said KTM's lately? If that's your real beef you're on the wrong band wagon. As for the weight of four...
Have you checked the price of said KTM's lately? If that's your real beef you're on the wrong band wagon.
As for the weight of four strokes, you must be new to the sport. Judging a bike purely by weight and HP figures is also insane but KTM knows that brochure figures sell more now than what wins on Sunday. Not saying KTM's aren't a good race bike but people need to stop BJing those bikes so much when they also have their own flaws. Nothing is perfect and there are plenty of fans of the 18 model CRF on here but you clearly aren't one because you probably haven't ridden one.
Ktm knows that F=ma and Honda knows that it feels light and 2 pipes coming out the back is so cool!
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10/28/2018 11:52am
jsmi33966 wrote:
I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close...
I'm just supprised no one has mentioned the fact that the 18-19 Cr250 actualy weighs more than a ktm or fc 450 and is very close to the weight of a kx450.
Also dual exhaust is a gimmick.
Duel exhaust and e start never made a mx bike faster.

Why would anyone want to ride a bike heavier than a 450 with at least 10 less hp. And dual exhaust sounds and looks stupid.

Honda is just driving up the price and weight of bikes which is killing the sport.
Have you checked the price of said KTM's lately? If that's your real beef you're on the wrong band wagon. As for the weight of four...
Have you checked the price of said KTM's lately? If that's your real beef you're on the wrong band wagon.
As for the weight of four strokes, you must be new to the sport. Judging a bike purely by weight and HP figures is also insane but KTM knows that brochure figures sell more now than what wins on Sunday. Not saying KTM's aren't a good race bike but people need to stop BJing those bikes so much when they also have their own flaws. Nothing is perfect and there are plenty of fans of the 18 model CRF on here but you clearly aren't one because you probably haven't ridden one.
jsmi33966 wrote:
Im not new to the sport 07 08 09 were the years of the lightest jap 450s. Efi dual exhaust and e start have just brought...
Im not new to the sport 07 08 09 were the years of the lightest jap 450s. Efi dual exhaust and e start have just brought the weight up since then.

"Of course people like the 18-19 cr250 its got 2 pipes coming out the back. Thats so cool! Mom I want one."

"Yes it weighs 245lbs with 40hp and no bottom end but youre not my dad and you can't tell me what to do!"

2 quotes from actual 18-19 cr250 guys

Purely on your rants alone, I call that bullshit...perhaps they brought the bike based on the following https://www.dirtrider.com/1st-place-2018-250f-mx-shootout-honda-crf250r… ...jsut because it is slightly down on HP against some bikes and has twin bikes does not mean it is a bad bike....but I suspect you will not agree not matter what I say, so lets agree to disagree that its a bad bad bike.
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It’s a lot easier to make a bike go faster than it is to make it handle better.
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brocsdad wrote:
I just had a friend call me before buying a 2019 CRF 250. He said they have them at his local dealer in SC. I haven't...
I just had a friend call me before buying a 2019 CRF 250. He said they have them at his local dealer in SC.

I haven't seen any reviews or tests of the 19 bike. I read they made improvements to the bottom end but no official tests or reviews.

Anyone?

Thanks!
adamdf wrote:
From what I see on Instagram, it appears Keefer is testing the 2019 at the moment. Hopefully he will release a first ride impression soon.
I think Keefer was helping break them in for Honda prior to our intro day, I was told we won’t (media) test the bikes until near the end of November.
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It’s a lot easier to make a bike go faster than it is to make it handle better.
This dude gets it..
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