impressed by the Ktm engines in RBSR

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Crush 10/22/2018 5:27am
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billyp330 wrote:
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just...
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just better.... Damn I love Vital's expert mechanics that are so in tune with bike engines that they can detect engine mods based solely on sound coming out of their tv speakers... Wish I was that gifted.
Yeah but RV got pulled by them every time. He's a bum right?
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billyp330 10/22/2018 5:52am
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billyp330 wrote:
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just...
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just better.... Damn I love Vital's expert mechanics that are so in tune with bike engines that they can detect engine mods based solely on sound coming out of their tv speakers... Wish I was that gifted.
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Yeah but RV got pulled by them every time. He's a bum right?
The only KTM that Poto went up against was Dungey.
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billyp330 wrote:
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just...
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just better.... Damn I love Vital's expert mechanics that are so in tune with bike engines that they can detect engine mods based solely on sound coming out of their tv speakers... Wish I was that gifted.
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Yeah but RV got pulled by them every time. He's a bum right?
The power difference was super noticeable, Villo was only making up time by scrubba dubbing the speed checks and getting the power down earley.

For me, the chassis of the new KTMs looked so much better - The Yammy looked kind of 'soft' which made it look like he would sort of fold the Yammy to scrub the speed checks wheras the KTMs seemed to be really stiff and neutral and I dont really know, and maybe it just the new plastics, but the KTMs looked lighter.

The stiffer more 4 stroke style chassis of the KTM may have played a significant part in the start, losing no power through the bike on take off. I also wouldnt be suprised if the KTM has the more modern geometry, with a steeper fork Angle and the engine pushed slightly closer to the front wheel allowing for much quicker starts also.
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I raced a 300 KTM for years (250 was my practice bike) and the 250 is actually faster out of the gate, it revs quicker. The 300 shines from mid to top and pulls longer. So like the first roller section the riders hit is where the 300 would be a difference. But all of the speed checks a 250 would get to top speed quicker. And the Alta did look underpowered this year, even from the very start.
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AJ565 10/22/2018 6:14am
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
I shot sone video with Dungey’s mechanic Carlos and Matt from TLD, they both said the bikes were stock. Besides pipe and silencer. I’m on your...
I shot sone video with Dungey’s mechanic Carlos and Matt from TLD, they both said the bikes were stock. Besides pipe and silencer.

I’m on your side and not sure I believe that. But video coming soon...
Dexter wrote:
It seems like Dungey and Morais pipes were stock.
I'm not sure Akrapovic makes a pipe for the 250. Since that was the factory team and thats the exhaust they use they might have been limited.

Also with the proper jetting the 250 is a rocket. It was a big difference in performance between stock and a properly jetted bike with a pipe and silencer.
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billyp330 wrote:
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just...
Yea it had to of been that the KTM bikes were so much better. Couldn't of possibly been that the riders of the KTMs were just better.... Damn I love Vital's expert mechanics that are so in tune with bike engines that they can detect engine mods based solely on sound coming out of their tv speakers... Wish I was that gifted.
Crush wrote:
Yeah but RV got pulled by them every time. He's a bum right?
billyp330 wrote:
The only KTM that Poto went up against was Dungey.
Dont forget the white KTMs.
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sebastianer 10/22/2018 6:51am
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billyp330 wrote:
The only KTM that Poto went up against was Dungey.
So jordon smith was on something other than an ktm ?
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billyp330 10/22/2018 6:57am
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Crush wrote:
Yeah but RV got pulled by them every time. He's a bum right?
billyp330 wrote:
The only KTM that Poto went up against was Dungey.
kb228 wrote:
Dont forget the white KTMs.
Well those are Huskies and NOT factory KTMs.

My point is that Dungey beat Poto straight up in RBSR and the first thing some vitards want to claim is how much better his bike is supposedly. I am a Dungey fan so maybe I am a bit biased, but i fully expected Dungey to win as he is the only one to beat Stewie in a run at RBSR. I was shocked that Shane was able to beat him. Props to him.

I think the RBSR was at its best this year and I am not a die hard 2 stroke lover. It was just the best close racing that I can recall.
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billyp330 10/22/2018 7:01am
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billyp330 wrote:
The only KTM that Poto went up against was Dungey.
sebastianer wrote:
So jordon smith was on something other than an ktm ?
My bad I forgot about the race for third. RV did beat him in one run though so I guess RV's bike had a little extra that one run. Damn inconsistent YZ power.
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seth505 10/22/2018 7:57am
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billyp330 wrote:
The only KTM that Poto went up against was Dungey.
sebastianer wrote:
So jordon smith was on something other than an ktm ?
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My bad I forgot about the race for third. RV did beat him in one run though so I guess RV's bike had a little extra...
My bad I forgot about the race for third. RV did beat him in one run though so I guess RV's bike had a little extra that one run. Damn inconsistent YZ power.
Not sure what you're carrying on about. It sure seemed like the KTMs had awesome power. RV winning a run means he did that run better, not that he got a turbo boost.
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billyp330 10/22/2018 8:04am
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sebastianer wrote:
So jordon smith was on something other than an ktm ?
billyp330 wrote:
My bad I forgot about the race for third. RV did beat him in one run though so I guess RV's bike had a little extra...
My bad I forgot about the race for third. RV did beat him in one run though so I guess RV's bike had a little extra that one run. Damn inconsistent YZ power.
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Not sure what you're carrying on about. It sure seemed like the KTMs had awesome power. RV winning a run means he did that run better...
Not sure what you're carrying on about. It sure seemed like the KTMs had awesome power. RV winning a run means he did that run better, not that he got a turbo boost.
Two posts up I clearly state my point.
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peelout 10/22/2018 8:45am
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nascarnate326 wrote:
RV stated he was wondering if the pumpkins were 300’s. Technically it was an open class so it would have been allowed. Regardless the orange bikes...
RV stated he was wondering if the pumpkins were 300’s. Technically it was an open class so it would have been allowed.

Regardless the orange bikes were in a class of their own.


Any of them using a Lectron?
i have the Lectron carb and SX box on my 300, thing is a fucking rocket
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plynn41 10/22/2018 8:48am
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billyp330 wrote:
The only KTM that Poto went up against was Dungey.
kb228 wrote:
Dont forget the white KTMs.
billyp330 wrote:
Well those are Huskies and NOT factory KTMs. My point is that Dungey beat Poto straight up in RBSR and the first thing some vitards want...
Well those are Huskies and NOT factory KTMs.

My point is that Dungey beat Poto straight up in RBSR and the first thing some vitards want to claim is how much better his bike is supposedly. I am a Dungey fan so maybe I am a bit biased, but i fully expected Dungey to win as he is the only one to beat Stewie in a run at RBSR. I was shocked that Shane was able to beat him. Props to him.

I think the RBSR was at its best this year and I am not a die hard 2 stroke lover. It was just the best close racing that I can recall.
For the record, I'm a Dungey fan and my two boys and I race a trio of orange two strokes. But I'm sorry to have let my "vitardness" out of the bag and hurt your feelings with my observations.
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MiguelT. 10/22/2018 11:17am
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open class, no restrictions, so factory bikes of course had something else.
Like previously mentioned the engines were 300cc at least.
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Denn700 10/22/2018 11:26am
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There is a video where Dungey says the motors weren’t stock. I will try to find it later. I hope one of the magazines test those KTM’s. I hope they do a test of all those bikes at RBSR.
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Phantom 661 10/22/2018 12:14pm
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Denn700 wrote:
There is a video where Dungey says the motors weren’t stock. I will try to find it later. I hope one of the magazines test those...
There is a video where Dungey says the motors weren’t stock. I will try to find it later. I hope one of the magazines test those KTM’s. I hope they do a test of all those bikes at RBSR.
I'm curious too. That KTM sounded mean. Regardless, Dungey was putting the weel to the dirt incredibly well. Dude did his homework. He obviously didn't show up to look foolish.
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Excaliburbmx 10/22/2018 12:40pm
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The Yamaha did just fine.
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GODZILLA 10/22/2018 1:08pm
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Dexter wrote:
It seems like Dungey and Morais pipes were stock.
That ain't no stock exhaust.

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jsmi33966 10/22/2018 1:20pm
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I had a 300sx built by power seal with vp it was a rocketship. Definately beats a 450.
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sam hain 10/22/2018 1:22pm
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I was surprised to see them all running the stock carb.
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sebastianer 10/22/2018 1:26pm
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sam hain wrote:
I was surprised to see them all running the stock carb.
the Mikuni TMX 38 i think can produce the most hp but is really hard to keep jetting on point on, and the stock slide does suck.
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Deetsmx 10/22/2018 1:28pm
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GODZILLA wrote:
That ain't no stock exhaust. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/22/297791/s1200_KTM_Pipe.jpg[/img]
That ain't no stock exhaust.



Looks pretty similar minus the coating
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MadsDausel 10/22/2018 1:52pm
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You Can see 72 on the cylinder of dungey’s bike in the mxa pit pics.
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Deetsmx wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/22/297792/s1200_90C602A4_F9C6_45C6_B09B_E740A1C4041A.jpg[/img] Looks pretty similar minus the coating


Looks pretty similar minus the coating
Raw metal pipe and Akra silencer are worse 5hp (1hp in the sticker alone).
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early 10/22/2018 2:34pm
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Matthes and Weege on the review podcast saying the TLD, Dunge and Morais had 300s in the frame.
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zacksavchuk 10/22/2018 2:49pm
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Those ktm’s sounded like drag snowmobiles. I’ve never heard a “stock” 2 stroke engine sound like that.
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Rejser 10/22/2018 2:51pm
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Just think how strange it is that you can´t actually race one of these sweet 300´s in the 450 class... It´s sad really.
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Johnny Depp 10/22/2018 3:24pm
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Works bikes were allowed, what do you expect?

All the power in the world means nothing if you can't put it to the ground. Perhaps the Orange suspension and chassis the Red Bull team was on made a noticeable difference too?

1st, 2nd and 4th. Not too shabby.
Squirrelings 10/22/2018 3:57pm
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GODZILLA wrote:
That ain't no stock exhaust. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/22/297791/s1200_KTM_Pipe.jpg[/img]
That ain't no stock exhaust.

It's easy to tell. Check to see if it's cracked. If it is, it's definitely a stock exhaust.
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