herlings podium interview

pilotdude wrote:

I am still on the fence whether this is true or not, and I'm not disagreeing with you, BUT: I If this is true, why did...

I am still on the fence whether this is true or not, and I'm not disagreeing with you, BUT:

I If this is true, why did people used to say the supercross gave the AMA guys an advantage because of how important the starts were, which caused the AMA guys to be great starters and so great at jumping?

2. If this is true, how have the U.S. riders been so good in so many races in the very near past like Glen Helen GP, Charlotte GP, Jacksonville GP?

3.. How do the AMA 250 riders so regularly defeat the MX2 riders at those same GPs?

4. If you think supercross is truly causing AMA riders' motocross skills to decline, do you see any way EVER that supercross (owned by Feld Entertainment) will back off in order to allow these skills to rebound?

5. If the answer to question number 4 above is "no", doesn't that mean that the AMA riders' outdoor skill will NEVER improve, and they will always lose to the GP riders?

6. If the answer to question number 5 above is "yes" or even "probably", why should the AMA riders ever attend the MXdN? To lose for their country?

7.. Why was there a "Feld" logo on the Team USA team shirts in the interviews I saw? Support for Team USA? If so, how ironic that they "support" Team USA while simultaneously being responsible for "causing" the demise of the skills needed to win outdoors.

8. I seem to remember ALL the riders on past winning U.S. teams also being supercross riders all the way up to 2011. Is 2012 the year that can be targeted as the year the GP riders' outdoor focus finally surpassed the AMA riders' skills?

TeamGreen wrote:

Here's how simple it is: if you want to get back to beating the FIM regulars, you better [b]get your ass "outdoors" more than just 3...

Here's how simple it is: if you want to get back to beating the FIM regulars, you better get your ass "outdoors" more than just 3 months out of the year.

Look, I ABSOLUTLEY love Supercross; but, it isn't Motocross. It's 20 minutes of Jumps, Bowl Turns and Man-Made Whoops from Hell...and, like I said, I dig that stuff...but, here in the USA...we've sold out to Supercross.

There's NO other way to acknowledge what's happening.

I'm not interested in ANY Anti-Feld BS or any other "Us-n-Them" anger-fest. I'm just telling you the obvious cause and effect. We spend 1/2 the time racing outdoors than Europe does. And the net result is that they're better prepared, better trained and even better at the "strategy" of racing outdoors.

Period.

yamahaha131 wrote:

Unfortunately you don’t even have a chance to battle with the best in the world if you don’t get a start and they do. Not saying...

Unfortunately you don’t even have a chance to battle with the best in the world if you don’t get a start and they do. Not saying Eli or Justin could have battled with them today but thanks to their starts we didn’t even get the chance. No excuses, everyone raced the same track.

AB#81 wrote:

Really? Herlings fell in first corner yesterday and battled them all, cairoli fell in first race and came through to battle.

yamahaha131 wrote:

Lol I give up on these threads.

mx317 wrote:

Herlings did go 1-1 in the MXGP class and Glen C went 1-1 in the open class. Why would he risk battling his teammate and maybe...

Herlings did go 1-1 in the MXGP class and Glen C went 1-1 in the open class. Why would he risk battling his teammate and maybe knock his country off the podium?

Squirrelings wrote:

All the Europeans at the bar Friday night think Herlings is a prick, except for the Dutch, of course.

mx317 wrote:

Herlings did go 1-1 in the MXGP class and Glen C went 1-1 in the open class. Why would he risk battling his teammate and maybe...

Herlings did go 1-1 in the MXGP class and Glen C went 1-1 in the open class. Why would he risk battling his teammate and maybe knock his country off the podium?

Andy_Greenney wrote:

There is no chance that herlings didn’t put absolutely everything in to that ride, he would have shoved his teammate off the track if he had...

There is no chance that herlings didn’t put absolutely everything in to that ride, he would have shoved his teammate off the track if he had to

Squirrelings wrote:

All the Europeans at the bar Friday night think Herlings is a prick, except for the Dutch, of course.

agn5009 wrote:

They think he's a prick because they can't beat him. It's that simple. Herlings is on another level. Glen had a fantastic race today, but let's...

They think he's a prick because they can't beat him. It's that simple. Herlings is on another level. Glen had a fantastic race today, but let's be honest. He's not Herlings and he never will be because of one race. Herlings has dominated all season long and dominated everyone again today outside of Glen.

TeamGreen wrote:

Here's how simple it is: if you want to get back to beating the FIM regulars, you better [b]get your ass "outdoors" more than just 3...

Here's how simple it is: if you want to get back to beating the FIM regulars, you better get your ass "outdoors" more than just 3 months out of the year.

Look, I ABSOLUTLEY love Supercross; but, it isn't Motocross. It's 20 minutes of Jumps, Bowl Turns and Man-Made Whoops from Hell...and, like I said, I dig that stuff...but, here in the USA...we've sold out to Supercross.

There's NO other way to acknowledge what's happening.

I'm not interested in ANY Anti-Feld BS or any other "Us-n-Them" anger-fest. I'm just telling you the obvious cause and effect. We spend 1/2 the time racing outdoors than Europe does. And the net result is that they're better prepared, better trained and even better at the "strategy" of racing outdoors.

Period.

APLMAN99 wrote:

While I think generally you have a point, how does that explain how much better that Ferrandis performed than Plessinger? Plessinger beat him in 12 out...

While I think generally you have a point, how does that explain how much better that Ferrandis performed than Plessinger? Plessinger beat him in 12 out of 18 outdoor motos this season, including a 1-1 sweep at Red Bud this year. But on this particular day, Ferrandis outraced him.

As I asked in another thread, does this now mean that Plessinger sucks and that Ferrandis is on another level from him?

Obviously not, just as the result from a single day doesn't mean that Coldenhoff is superior to Herlings......

One thing that I do wonder is whether or not the AMA guys have been testing the new bikes for SX, and if so that may have been why Tomac didn't stick with his '18 title bike and setup. I'd be surprised if (American) Kawasaki put as much effort into testing the '19 for outdoors as for SX at this point, and I'd also be a little surprised if Tomac hasn't been SX testing the new machine from his first ride after the MX season ended.

Could be wrong, of course, but I think that SX takes up a lot more time than just the race season and that the top guys have been working on their SX program for several weeks already.

hamncheeze wrote:

Yeah his true self had to come out at some point. It was pretty obvious today, he did not need to be a douche and rub...

Yeah his true self had to come out at some point. It was pretty obvious today, he did not need to be a douche and rub it in. Had Tomac done the same there's absolutely no way he would have acted like that. Statements like that are why I'll never really be a fan of Herlings completely. I appreciated his ability and speed but deep down inside he's a punk.

UpTiTe wrote:

And Plessingers comments towards him were so nice .

mx317 wrote:

Herlings did go 1-1 in the MXGP class and Glen C went 1-1 in the open class. Why would he risk battling his teammate and maybe...

Herlings did go 1-1 in the MXGP class and Glen C went 1-1 in the open class. Why would he risk battling his teammate and maybe knock his country off the podium?

Squirrelings wrote:

All the Europeans at the bar Friday night think Herlings is a prick, except for the Dutch, of course.

agn5009 wrote:

They think he's a prick because they can't beat him. It's that simple. Herlings is on another level. Glen had a fantastic race today, but let's...

They think he's a prick because they can't beat him. It's that simple. Herlings is on another level. Glen had a fantastic race today, but let's be honest. He's not Herlings and he never will be because of one race. Herlings has dominated all season long and dominated everyone again today outside of Glen.

Park Boys wrote:

You know this is the first race Glenn ever beat Tomac too right? Glenn smoked everyone at the race that everyone wanted to win. Herlings, Tomac...

You know this is the first race Glenn ever beat Tomac too right? Glenn smoked everyone at the race that everyone wanted to win. Herlings, Tomac, Roczen and AC included. Don't try and make Herlings out as a winner in a race he only talked about going 1-1 in. I guarantee you he is more pissed about Glenn beating him than Tomac, Roczen or AC. This was his last goal going 1-1 and it was his teammate who did it. Imgine RC being lead in by Tedesco, if that's even imaginable. It's Glenn by the way, not Glen.

agn5009 wrote:

They think he's a prick because they can't beat him. It's that simple. Herlings is on another level. Glen had a fantastic race today, but let's...

They think he's a prick because they can't beat him. It's that simple. Herlings is on another level. Glen had a fantastic race today, but let's be honest. He's not Herlings and he never will be because of one race. Herlings has dominated all season long and dominated everyone again today outside of Glen.

Park Boys wrote:

You know this is the first race Glenn ever beat Tomac too right? Glenn smoked everyone at the race that everyone wanted to win. Herlings, Tomac...

You know this is the first race Glenn ever beat Tomac too right? Glenn smoked everyone at the race that everyone wanted to win. Herlings, Tomac, Roczen and AC included. Don't try and make Herlings out as a winner in a race he only talked about going 1-1 in. I guarantee you he is more pissed about Glenn beating him than Tomac, Roczen or AC. This was his last goal going 1-1 and it was his teammate who did it. Imgine RC being lead in by Tedesco, if that's even imaginable. It's Glenn by the way, not Glen.

agn5009 wrote:

I said absolutely nothing incorrect in my statement other than spelling Glenn's name wrong. Herlings dominated all year. Herlings dominated everyone outside of Glenn today. The...

I said absolutely nothing incorrect in my statement other than spelling Glenn's name wrong. Herlings dominated all year. Herlings dominated everyone outside of Glenn today. The rest of the field can't beat Jeffrey, that was proven all year long. Go ahead and argue those points. You'll look really dumb.

Park Boys wrote:

You know this is the first race Glenn ever beat Tomac too right? Glenn smoked everyone at the race that everyone wanted to win. Herlings, Tomac...

You know this is the first race Glenn ever beat Tomac too right? Glenn smoked everyone at the race that everyone wanted to win. Herlings, Tomac, Roczen and AC included. Don't try and make Herlings out as a winner in a race he only talked about going 1-1 in. I guarantee you he is more pissed about Glenn beating him than Tomac, Roczen or AC. This was his last goal going 1-1 and it was his teammate who did it. Imgine RC being lead in by Tedesco, if that's even imaginable. It's Glenn by the way, not Glen.

agn5009 wrote:

I said absolutely nothing incorrect in my statement other than spelling Glenn's name wrong. Herlings dominated all year. Herlings dominated everyone outside of Glenn today. The...

I said absolutely nothing incorrect in my statement other than spelling Glenn's name wrong. Herlings dominated all year. Herlings dominated everyone outside of Glenn today. The rest of the field can't beat Jeffrey, that was proven all year long. Go ahead and argue those points. You'll look really dumb.

Park Boys wrote:

He beat Glenn in 38 straight motos In the GPs. Herlings switched to MXGP class so he would have more energy to go 1-1 in the...

He beat Glenn in 38 straight motos In the GPs. Herlings switched to MXGP class so he would have more energy to go 1-1 in the Des Nations. His last goal he wants to achieve now that SX is obviously out of the question. And the guy at the disadvantage on Herlings own team dominated the Saturday and Sunday event going 1-1-1. By the way AC got Herlings a handful of time and DeSalle got him for an overall and Glenn just dominated the biggest single race of the year when it was Herlings chirping the loudest that he was going to win the event. Team be damned. He was not cocky all year and he reverted back to his old cocky ways and was smoked by someone considered not even in his same class. The first time Glenn beats Herlings or Tomac was for all the marbles.

agn5009 wrote:

I said absolutely nothing incorrect in my statement other than spelling Glenn's name wrong. Herlings dominated all year. Herlings dominated everyone outside of Glenn today. The...

I said absolutely nothing incorrect in my statement other than spelling Glenn's name wrong. Herlings dominated all year. Herlings dominated everyone outside of Glenn today. The rest of the field can't beat Jeffrey, that was proven all year long. Go ahead and argue those points. You'll look really dumb.

Park Boys wrote:

He beat Glenn in 38 straight motos In the GPs. Herlings switched to MXGP class so he would have more energy to go 1-1 in the...

He beat Glenn in 38 straight motos In the GPs. Herlings switched to MXGP class so he would have more energy to go 1-1 in the Des Nations. His last goal he wants to achieve now that SX is obviously out of the question. And the guy at the disadvantage on Herlings own team dominated the Saturday and Sunday event going 1-1-1. By the way AC got Herlings a handful of time and DeSalle got him for an overall and Glenn just dominated the biggest single race of the year when it was Herlings chirping the loudest that he was going to win the event. Team be damned. He was not cocky all year and he reverted back to his old cocky ways and was smoked by someone considered not even in his same class. The first time Glenn beats Herlings or Tomac was for all the marbles.

Stoop wrote:

Keep trying to belittle everything about Herlings, how about we talk about your boy the 2 time champ who got waxed by a 17 year old...

Keep trying to belittle everything about Herlings, how about we talk about your boy the 2 time champ who got waxed by a 17 year old on a 250

Park Boys wrote:

He beat Glenn in 38 straight motos In the GPs. Herlings switched to MXGP class so he would have more energy to go 1-1 in the...

He beat Glenn in 38 straight motos In the GPs. Herlings switched to MXGP class so he would have more energy to go 1-1 in the Des Nations. His last goal he wants to achieve now that SX is obviously out of the question. And the guy at the disadvantage on Herlings own team dominated the Saturday and Sunday event going 1-1-1. By the way AC got Herlings a handful of time and DeSalle got him for an overall and Glenn just dominated the biggest single race of the year when it was Herlings chirping the loudest that he was going to win the event. Team be damned. He was not cocky all year and he reverted back to his old cocky ways and was smoked by someone considered not even in his same class. The first time Glenn beats Herlings or Tomac was for all the marbles.

Stoop wrote:

Keep trying to belittle everything about Herlings, how about we talk about your boy the 2 time champ who got waxed by a 17 year old...

Keep trying to belittle everything about Herlings, how about we talk about your boy the 2 time champ who got waxed by a 17 year old on a 250

Park Boys wrote:

Prado was one of the stars of the show after Glenn. Had the young 17 year old Prado been on a 450 there is no doubt...

Prado was one of the stars of the show after Glenn. Had the young 17 year old Prado been on a 450 there is no doubt in my mind he wins that first Moto. I personally love how Herlings gets cocky on the podium and got smoked by his teammate after Herlings was the one that switched to MXGP to make it "easier" for him to go 1-1. He got cocky and lost. Herlings was good all year and got cocky for the last race and it bit him hard. Like I said good for Glenn! I had no idea he would do this. It also dosent change the fact that it's the first time he has ever beaten Tomac. Tomac has more MXGP success in 6 motos than Glenn has in a career and around and around we go. I love this shit!