herlings podium interview

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10/7/2018 8:48pm
The USA vs the world was spawned by previous great American riders and it's fans, who knows what the American fans were shouting at Herlings during...
The USA vs the world was spawned by previous great American riders and it's fans, who knows what the American fans were shouting at Herlings during the race.

The some of the American fans comment on these forums alone are piss poor after their "defeat" some of you seem shocked he the results, those mxgp boys have been faster for years, take plessenger for example, doing the eye test of speed watching Prado in the GP'S comparing to AP looked obvious what level the AMA 250 guys are at

Some posters say we "we suck" "I don't deserve this" get off your high horse same people say ama is better than mxgp without even watching it, if you're a true MX fan like alot of us here get used to the weird names and watch both. .

Unfortunately for American fans this is not going to stop any time soon, you have not had an impressive champion since RV or JS and RC. Tomac is good on his day however he is so mentally flakey that his god rides are too far inbetween his shockers, RV RC and JS put it all on the line when needed.

I don't see anyone in the 250s stepping it up either, it seems generational.
Your right. Those guys were unreal. But what we saw out of plessenger today was really out of character.I haven't seen him ride that bad for over a year. Hell ferrandis has been injured most of the year and just came back at the end of the season.Or maybe we got false hopes after 2 of the 250 ama past champions were injured this year so he got false confidence who knows. Coldenhoff and lawrence were really the surprises i saw this weekend with 3rd being plessengers performance.
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10/7/2018 8:51pm
The real question, do you think Marvin is happy or not?
He's having a month off, and with one of the hottest wives ever.

Yeah, he's probably getting by.
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10/7/2018 8:52pm
Am I the only American that’s fine with us not winning this frigging race? Lol. This is what focusing on Sx has done to our dominance, plus dividing up the series now instead of mx and sx running somewhat at the same time like back when America dominated. Add in the fact that in our dominant years, the gp riders hadn’t grown up with huge sx style jumps and whatnot. After a newer class of gp riders got to grow up emulating American techniques on American style tracks this end to American domination was bound to happen. Doesn’t bother me a whit.
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Nobody is gonna give a shit who won by next weekend anyway so lets just move on to standard vital cancer threads thanks.

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Crush wrote:
1/2 the time on even less track variance too.
Zacka 161 wrote:
They should push the MXON a week later and and start the nationals a month later so there's 5 weeks of prep from SX to Nationals...
They should push the MXON a week later and and start the nationals a month later so there's 5 weeks of prep from SX to Nationals

Cut out 4 Supercrosses and start sx at the beginning of Feb
Crush wrote:
Never going to happen. Feld want more SX races! Although it's not likely i'd suggest biggest difference is track soil and track abuse/prep. An Amateur day...
Never going to happen. Feld want more SX races!

Although it's not likely i'd suggest biggest difference is track soil and track abuse/prep.

An Amateur day the day before and/or more classes over a weekend and some different tracks would be the things to me.

Can't control the weather, can control the prep and classes.
I really think its as much the prep time as well. In the USA they essentially race themselves into the nationals, and every, Its like racing back from injury.

Meanwhile in europe they prep prep, test, local race etc etc before starting the series.

The USA doesnt have a chance without the prep time, they should shift the start of the nationals 4 weeks later
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Zacka 161 wrote:
I really think its as much the prep time as well. In the USA they essentially race themselves into the nationals, and every, Its like racing...
I really think its as much the prep time as well. In the USA they essentially race themselves into the nationals, and every, Its like racing back from injury.

Meanwhile in europe they prep prep, test, local race etc etc before starting the series.

The USA doesnt have a chance without the prep time, they should shift the start of the nationals 4 weeks later
#whataboutmonstercupbro?
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10/7/2018 9:18pm
The USA vs the world was spawned by previous great American riders and it's fans, who knows what the American fans were shouting at Herlings during...
The USA vs the world was spawned by previous great American riders and it's fans, who knows what the American fans were shouting at Herlings during the race.

The some of the American fans comment on these forums alone are piss poor after their "defeat" some of you seem shocked he the results, those mxgp boys have been faster for years, take plessenger for example, doing the eye test of speed watching Prado in the GP'S comparing to AP looked obvious what level the AMA 250 guys are at

Some posters say we "we suck" "I don't deserve this" get off your high horse same people say ama is better than mxgp without even watching it, if you're a true MX fan like alot of us here get used to the weird names and watch both. .

Unfortunately for American fans this is not going to stop any time soon, you have not had an impressive champion since RV or JS and RC. Tomac is good on his day however he is so mentally flakey that his god rides are too far inbetween his shockers, RV RC and JS put it all on the line when needed.

I don't see anyone in the 250s stepping it up either, it seems generational.
bsharkey wrote:
Your right. Those guys were unreal. But what we saw out of plessenger today was really out of character.I haven't seen him ride that bad for...
Your right. Those guys were unreal. But what we saw out of plessenger today was really out of character.I haven't seen him ride that bad for over a year. Hell ferrandis has been injured most of the year and just came back at the end of the season.Or maybe we got false hopes after 2 of the 250 ama past champions were injured this year so he got false confidence who knows. Coldenhoff and lawrence were really the surprises i saw this weekend with 3rd being plessengers performance.
AP is a good rider, however you know he's nothing like RC JS or RV, and you know when those types of riders arrive, they dominate from day one.

Webb showed it but I don't know what happened to him.
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10/7/2018 9:34pm
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Here's how simple it is: if you want to get back to beating the FIM regulars, you better [b]get your ass "outdoors" more than just 3...
Here's how simple it is: if you want to get back to beating the FIM regulars, you better get your ass "outdoors" more than just 3 months out of the year.

Look, I ABSOLUTLEY love Supercross; but, it isn't Motocross. It's 20 minutes of Jumps, Bowl Turns and Man-Made Whoops from Hell...and, like I said, I dig that stuff...but, here in the USA...we've sold out to Supercross.

There's NO other way to acknowledge what's happening.

I'm not interested in ANY Anti-Feld BS or any other "Us-n-Them" anger-fest. I'm just telling you the obvious cause and effect. We spend 1/2 the time racing outdoors than Europe does. And the net result is that they're better prepared, better trained and even better at the "strategy" of racing outdoors.

Period.
toroP wrote:
A thoughtful post. But explain RC, RV, (even CR, who is considered by some a SX specialist, has won and podiumed motos at MXDN. I think...
A thoughtful post.
But explain RC, RV, (even CR, who is considered by some a SX specialist, has won and podiumed motos at MXDN.

I think it’s mostly about talent. Talent emerges where it does, not where we hope it does.
I agree with Teamgeeen here and think that to your question about RC era being on top, that it maybe had to do with track prep. We’re the US Nats more varied then? Not just watered wood chip rut tracks? I think the series improved this year so hopefully changes. Being there all of this weekend there were a slew of riders who were clearly faster in these rough conditions than the US guys.
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I don't get the ones blaming the SX season for the result considering the SX series has existed during periods of US dominance of the MX DN.

Win some lose some jeez.
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Coldenhoff and Herlings are better than everyone.
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He did use the word "We" and not "I", and went with the least duche... though both would have been accurate.
Though I am with the majority on here and glad he was still feeling the sting of that Moto and overall winner's roost across the checkers
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10/7/2018 9:51pm Edited Date/Time 10/7/2018 9:59pm
Park Boys wrote:
And got smoked there last Moto and by the time RV was 20 he had 3 Moto wins on a 250. So what's your point?
the butthurt is very real ... youre going all in he LaughingLaughing
the persons on this thread were expected if you see topic title
how sad and typical , this topic has most pages after the MXON ...
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Herlings was right or Did I watch a different race than You. It was not even herlings But half of the European riders who were in front of team usa. And then dont forget the usa is So much bigger than all of the European countries. USA has over 325 million people and the Netherlands only 17 million. Just imagine if they could chose from so many riders.
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10/7/2018 9:55pm
gerg wrote:
I don't get the ones blaming the SX season for the result considering the SX series has existed during periods of US dominance of the MX...
I don't get the ones blaming the SX season for the result considering the SX series has existed during periods of US dominance of the MX DN.

Win some lose some jeez.
The recent phenomenon of deep ripping the track and creating ridiculous ruts, combined with the obvious bent towards SX has certainly changed the fortunes of US MX. I would also add that the Euros are just plain better right now, especially today.
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phantom wrote:
Herlings was right or Did I watch a different race than You. It was not even herlings But half of the European riders who were in...
Herlings was right or Did I watch a different race than You. It was not even herlings But half of the European riders who were in front of team usa. And then dont forget the usa is So much bigger than all of the European countries. USA has over 325 million people and the Netherlands only 17 million. Just imagine if they could chose from so many riders.
The highly ironic part of your statement is that if the Dutch would have chosen three Dutch riders they most likely win.
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A nice deflection of the fact that all you talked about was going 1-1 and switching to the MXGP class to get more rest and your...
A nice deflection of the fact that all you talked about was going 1-1 and switching to the MXGP class to get more rest and your teammate goes to the OPEN class and goes 1-1.
Hahaha. For someone who voices strong opinions on this board you sure cant take a hit. Freaking Harri Kullas and Lupino beat USA. Herlings is a dick for rubbing it in, but he is saying nothing but the truth, the mxgp boys and team NL beat the shit out of team USA this weekend.
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10/7/2018 10:19pm
phantom wrote:
Herlings was right or Did I watch a different race than You. It was not even herlings But half of the European riders who were in...
Herlings was right or Did I watch a different race than You. It was not even herlings But half of the European riders who were in front of team usa. And then dont forget the usa is So much bigger than all of the European countries. USA has over 325 million people and the Netherlands only 17 million. Just imagine if they could chose from so many riders.
Park Boys wrote:
The highly ironic part of your statement is that if the Dutch would have chosen three Dutch riders they most likely win.

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10/7/2018 10:20pm
"Dude is a dickhead."

He has always been.
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10/7/2018 10:23pm
Pretty sure when you’re laying waste to the field you can say we smashed the Americans. Cuz......they did.
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10/7/2018 10:25pm
Am I the only American that’s fine with us not winning this frigging race? Lol. This is what focusing on Sx has done to our dominance...
Am I the only American that’s fine with us not winning this frigging race? Lol. This is what focusing on Sx has done to our dominance, plus dividing up the series now instead of mx and sx running somewhat at the same time like back when America dominated. Add in the fact that in our dominant years, the gp riders hadn’t grown up with huge sx style jumps and whatnot. After a newer class of gp riders got to grow up emulating American techniques on American style tracks this end to American domination was bound to happen. Doesn’t bother me a whit.
I’m fine with it for the fact that the boys all had a bad day and some pathetic starts. I’m not fine with people not respecting that. I’m not saying the U.S. riders are the best, but they are better than 50% of the people on this forum tonight are giving them credit for.
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Agreed Squirrelings
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10/7/2018 10:50pm
We got smoked on our home turf...Plug another nickel in the machine, pull the handle and try again. History is a amazing thing it goes in cycles, we were the dominate force for awhile and have not been for a few years, but it can all change at the next race.
10/7/2018 11:15pm
Sorry, but this weekend was a wake up call for the usa. The ama riders where feeling acting talking always like we will show them euro riders how its done.... the hard fact is, including gasjer and other euro's who unfortunatly could not race this weekend. Are eating the ama champs for breakfast lunch and diner. after all the build up between herlings and tomac.. this was a knock out punch. For the ama so called champions by the entire mx gp field incl the 250 riders.. ( you dont like what herlings said.. then you americans better improve your game. Put your money where your mouth is
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Herrlings has always been a dickhead. He just happens to be incredible on a bike . One thing I will say is at least he had the common scence to wait till he won to brag about it. Unlike biggest douchebag of the week Plessinger . I normally like him . But if your not going to show any respect to your competitors you d want to make sure you're going to win .
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10/7/2018 11:29pm
"We smashed the americans" Dude is a dickhead.


Damn wish RC, RV and stewie were still racingSad


Bottom line, every single American (especially here) thought they were gonna win, that Tomac would smoke everyone and was talking trash for weeks. Even Plessinger said himself that he didn't know who would be able to beat him. Well do you know now Aaron???

So Herlings was just right, the Europeans whooped your American asses as hard as they could. Team USA was a joke.
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Herrlings has always been a dickhead. He just happens to be incredible on a bike . One thing I will say is at least he had...
Herrlings has always been a dickhead. He just happens to be incredible on a bike . One thing I will say is at least he had the common scence to wait till he won to brag about it. Unlike biggest douchebag of the week Plessinger . I normally like him . But if your not going to show any respect to your competitors you d want to make sure you're going to win .
What did AP do? I haven't been online that much recently.
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10/7/2018 11:36pm
Everyone seems to enjoy the RBSR smack talk but can't handle this?! Obviously the hurt is real.....imagine how much more entertaining our sport would be if more riders did this and weren't such sponsor thanking robots. The old legends of the sport used to do it and we loved it but now everyone cries. Don't forget wipe the seat before you sit down to piss girlfriends.
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10/8/2018 12:01am
Maybe Herlings comment will strike a nerve to motivate our Supercross experts. I do hope I live long enough to see Herlings dethroned, I say that with respect cause I just like to watch racer's who are insanely talented and don't talk like a robot. Stir it up Herlings, we'll be okay.
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10/8/2018 12:07am
I remember all the yanks saying ...

'I bet none of the euros hit larocco's leap'

'they've put a roller in to stop them jumping it'

they still sent it LaughingLaughing
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Why do people get so emotional about something an athlete or few says, no matter what country they're from. Like they would have taken your wife or something. Laughing

Obviously as a Finn I didn't have any dog in this race, but still.... I enjoy good racing in a sport I like. Happy for Coldenhoff surprising so many people. He did it with style. Herlings proved he's tough like hell, no matter what he charges. I was disappointed in US underperforming, they had completely nothing against the top guys of the day. Bummed for GB and NED for the bad luck. Nice that Prado did well after some people were ready to forget him after Saturday.

And after all, track conditions didn't look that bad. No mudfest, it was still real mx. Jumps could be jumped, even the leap, it wasn't just surviving around the track and hoping your machine is among 50% surviving the conditions.
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