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Donovan759 8/14/2018 11:37am
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Vital would shrivel up and die if it weren’t for Tomac threads.
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I was gonna say this but I figured you'd be along shortly and I didn't want to steal your thunder. Laughing
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jorgechavez 8/14/2018 11:41am
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Imagine how mad these people would be if someone's decision to not race the MXdN actually had some effect on their life.

Next up on Vital is a thread where we complain about Tom Cruise choosing Burger King over McDonalds!
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RichardLoots 8/14/2018 2:08pm
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kb228 wrote:
Why do people pretend tomac isnt good in sand? Hes by far the best in the states in it.
RichardLoots wrote:
where did i say he wasnt good in sand ? he is probably best in sand of all AMA riders
Park Boys wrote:
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in...
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in the sand. Still shouldn't have happend I believe it was Tomacs 6th pro sand race ever vs Herlings who has thousands of hours in the sand and countless races.
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA ..

last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard .. if my memory is correct Wink

Herlings in Assen , Lommel or Valkenswaard would whoop Tomacs ass ...

the way Tomac would whoop Herlings ass at MEC
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i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll...
i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll see what the story is next year.

as for this year, i'll be rooting him on the whole way, he is after all the fastest guy in the US so we'd be silly to leave him off because we're butt-hurt.
Correction. Tomac = FMOP currently.
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B DUB 333 8/14/2018 2:22pm
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RichardLoots wrote:
where did i say he wasnt good in sand ? he is probably best in sand of all AMA riders
Park Boys wrote:
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in...
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in the sand. Still shouldn't have happend I believe it was Tomacs 6th pro sand race ever vs Herlings who has thousands of hours in the sand and countless races.
RichardLoots wrote:
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA .. last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard...
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA ..

last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard .. if my memory is correct Wink

Herlings in Assen , Lommel or Valkenswaard would whoop Tomacs ass ...

the way Tomac would whoop Herlings ass at MEC
See above. Tomac = FMOP especially on sand. But especially on dirt. But especially any track anywhere at anytime
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i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll...
i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll see what the story is next year.

as for this year, i'll be rooting him on the whole way, he is after all the fastest guy in the US so we'd be silly to leave him off because we're butt-hurt.
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Correction. Tomac = FMOP currently.
i guess it's 5 o-clock somewhere eh
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B DUB 333 8/14/2018 2:39pm
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peelout wrote:
i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll...
i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll see what the story is next year.

as for this year, i'll be rooting him on the whole way, he is after all the fastest guy in the US so we'd be silly to leave him off because we're butt-hurt.
B DUB 333 wrote:
Correction. Tomac = FMOP currently.
peelout wrote:
i guess it's 5 o-clock somewhere eh
Peelout = traitor. Loose bolts.
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And FYI it's only 4:40. I started early
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Park Boys wrote:
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in...
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in the sand. Still shouldn't have happend I believe it was Tomacs 6th pro sand race ever vs Herlings who has thousands of hours in the sand and countless races.
RichardLoots wrote:
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA .. last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard...
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA ..

last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard .. if my memory is correct Wink

Herlings in Assen , Lommel or Valkenswaard would whoop Tomacs ass ...

the way Tomac would whoop Herlings ass at MEC
B DUB 333 wrote:
See above. Tomac = FMOP especially on sand. But especially on dirt. But especially any track anywhere at anytime
I remembered the last time Herlings and Tomac lined up together. Tomac was certainly NOT FMOP.

I can't even remember where he finished. Anyone?
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peelout wrote:
i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll...
i still think he's a draft dodger and if it wasn't in the US then he would be riding his quad in the mountains again. we'll see what the story is next year.

as for this year, i'll be rooting him on the whole way, he is after all the fastest guy in the US so we'd be silly to leave him off because we're butt-hurt.
What he said.
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I wasn't a fan of him on the team. Would have opted for Anderson and Barcia. However, with ando hurt our big bike choices are pretty...
I wasn't a fan of him on the team. Would have opted for Anderson and Barcia. However, with ando hurt our big bike choices are pretty fucked lol
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Yes, Barcia would have been a much better pick over Tomac if it came down between the two. Damn you Tomac for not wanting to fly...
Yes, Barcia would have been a much better pick over Tomac if it came down between the two. Damn you Tomac for not wanting to fly to Great Britain while preparing for a Supercross race the following week you're contracted to race. Terrible person.
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That excuse is lame......defending that excuse is even lamer. Riding for your country is an honor, not an inconvenience...... I agree with Peelout. I don't think...
That excuse is lame......defending that excuse is even lamer. Riding for your country is an honor, not an inconvenience......

I agree with Peelout. I don't think he deserves to be there, but because he is...it would be just wrong not to root for him/our team.

What about when your whole country just decides not to go , just isn't worth the trip? You might as well start flaming the entire countries who don't show up to the MXoN's.
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jeffro503 8/14/2018 4:46pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't race it next year or years after. These guys race a ton, on top of that some of them...
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't race it next year or years after. These guys race a ton, on top of that some of them train like crazy, and don't get a lof of off weekends.

Me personally, I would probably go every year selected to represent my country; However, with racing the MEC and having the GP races that he was I believe contractually obligated to the past few years I don't totally blame him for not going. He has to have some time off in September/October before getting back to the grind.
RichardLoots wrote:
next years MXON is in Assen ..deep sand , would surprise me if Tomac lines up and battle Herlings on a proper sand track ..
Every time I see this...I scratch my head. Wouldn't we want a more even track surface to equal things out......you know , like dirt?

Of course our guys struggle in the sand...
We have no sand tracks here like Assen and Lommel. Great way to pound your chest , when our guys can't even practice the type of terrain...

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Excaliburbmx 8/14/2018 5:53pm
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devindavisphoto wrote:
Not to drag up last years drama, and I don't remember the exact dates, but it's ridiculous how ridiculed he got for skipping MXDN last year...
Not to drag up last years drama, and I don't remember the exact dates, but it's ridiculous how ridiculed he got for skipping MXDN last year. It was one of those scenarios where Indiana is one weekend (just won first MX title), the following weekend is the USGP, then you leave to Europe on Monday and do press all week until the MXDN (biggest race of the year), then you fly home and immediately do press all day as the MEC defending champion and race on Saturday, then it's immediately into SX testing and training. It's unreal how whiny some of you guys have been since, still bringing it up and trying to trash talk Eli based on his decisions.
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I could be wrong, but what was Tim Gajser’s schedule like during that exact time period? Didn’t he fly into the US, race the GP, fly...
I could be wrong, but what was Tim Gajser’s schedule like during that exact time period?

Didn’t he fly into the US, race the GP, fly back to Europe for the MXoN, then fly back to the US for the MEC?
Tomac year was started training in November and racing from January on. The two series are just different and the schedules clash a bit.

In any event Tomac didn’t race it last year hate him all you want he is still the best we have.
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Hcallz5 8/14/2018 6:05pm
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With the MX/SX schedule I don't blame him for taking some time off. Look what happened to Dungey and Villopoto, retired at 28. You can only do so many 6 day weeks busting your ass before you just wanna say fuck it.
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swtwtwtw 8/14/2018 6:21pm
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I read the "our series is a meat grinder " comment. Jeez Louise, current pros wouldn't stand a chance in the 70's 80's and early 90's.racing year. MXDN ought to be raced for fun in my opinion.
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PastranaWho 8/14/2018 6:28pm
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Hunting season starts in november this year so hes good to go for mxon.Woohoo
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Wiff3 8/14/2018 7:16pm
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Bunch of whiny twats on here crying about Tomac not racing last year. Who cares. The guys that did go busted their asses! And I'm sure Eli and crew will ride their hearts out this year.
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Lucifa (MD) 8/15/2018 2:39am
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RichardLoots wrote:
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA .. last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard...
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA ..

last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard .. if my memory is correct Wink

Herlings in Assen , Lommel or Valkenswaard would whoop Tomacs ass ...

the way Tomac would whoop Herlings ass at MEC
B DUB 333 wrote:
See above. Tomac = FMOP especially on sand. But especially on dirt. But especially any track anywhere at anytime
Lucifa. wrote:
I remembered the last time Herlings and Tomac lined up together. Tomac was certainly NOT FMOP.

I can't even remember where he finished. Anyone?
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NVA57 8/15/2018 3:31am
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kb228 wrote:
Why do people pretend tomac isnt good in sand? Hes by far the best in the states in it.
RichardLoots wrote:
where did i say he wasnt good in sand ? he is probably best in sand of all AMA riders
Park Boys wrote:
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in...
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in the sand. Still shouldn't have happend I believe it was Tomacs 6th pro sand race ever vs Herlings who has thousands of hours in the sand and countless races.
When and where have Tomac and Herlings both lined up for a sand race?
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ayearinmx 8/15/2018 4:03am
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RichardLoots wrote:
where did i say he wasnt good in sand ? he is probably best in sand of all AMA riders
Park Boys wrote:
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in...
The last time Herlings lost in the sand was the first time he ever raced Tomac in the sand. Yes I know Herlings is better in the sand. Still shouldn't have happend I believe it was Tomacs 6th pro sand race ever vs Herlings who has thousands of hours in the sand and countless races.
NVA57 wrote:
When and where have Tomac and Herlings both lined up for a sand race?
my only guess is that Park Boys somehow thinks this is a sand race?! Huh Dry



errrr.....
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RichardLoots 8/15/2018 8:59am
8/15/2018 8:59am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2018 9:10am
B DUB 333 wrote:
See above. Tomac = FMOP especially on sand. But especially on dirt. But especially any track anywhere at anytime
you mean any USA track ? as Tomac so far has never won a race outside the USA but its ok you call him FMOP ..but remember US tracks only ... he was lucky he didnt have t race Lommel that year ...lol .
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RichardLoots 8/15/2018 9:06am
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mx 219 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't race it next year or years after. These guys race a ton, on top of that some of them...
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't race it next year or years after. These guys race a ton, on top of that some of them train like crazy, and don't get a lof of off weekends.

Me personally, I would probably go every year selected to represent my country; However, with racing the MEC and having the GP races that he was I believe contractually obligated to the past few years I don't totally blame him for not going. He has to have some time off in September/October before getting back to the grind.
RichardLoots wrote:
next years MXON is in Assen ..deep sand , would surprise me if Tomac lines up and battle Herlings on a proper sand track ..
jeffro503 wrote:
Every time I see this...I scratch my head. Wouldn't we want a more even track surface to equal things out......you know , like dirt? Of course...
Every time I see this...I scratch my head. Wouldn't we want a more even track surface to equal things out......you know , like dirt?

Of course our guys struggle in the sand...
We have no sand tracks here like Assen and Lommel. Great way to pound your chest , when our guys can't even practice the type of terrain...

its not about chest pounding ... its about Tomac only wanting to race at USA tracks as he has a good record at home but on Euro tracks his record sucks

Tomac didnt race last MXON's ... now its on hometrack and he turns around 180 degrees ... from a meaningless race with unlucky schedule its now the most important race of the year for god and country ... LOL .... MEC is still there , championship is still the same .. His interview was just stunning if you remember he pulled out and why ..

if Herlings wins ? you think he will be lining up next years at Assen ?
If tomac wins ? you think he will be lining up at Assen ?

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its not about chest pounding ... its about Tomac only wanting to race at USA tracks as he has a good record at home but on...
its not about chest pounding ... its about Tomac only wanting to race at USA tracks as he has a good record at home but on Euro tracks his record sucks

Tomac didnt race last MXON's ... now its on hometrack and he turns around 180 degrees ... from a meaningless race with unlucky schedule its now the most important race of the year for god and country ... LOL .... MEC is still there , championship is still the same .. His interview was just stunning if you remember he pulled out and why ..

if Herlings wins ? you think he will be lining up next years at Assen ?
If tomac wins ? you think he will be lining up at Assen ?

Eli can ride Euro tracks faster than any Euro he's raced against. He logged the fastest lap time of anyone in all 4 of the MXdN motos he raced in 2013 and 2014. Also doing that on a 250 in 2013 and on a sand track in 2014. Crashes and bad starts cost him, but the facts of speed are not on your side my friend.
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kkawboy14 8/15/2018 9:36am
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Let’s just say they are both....really, really good!
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Brownstone322 8/15/2018 9:39am
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RichardLoots wrote:
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA .. last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard...
i mean Euro sand tracks ... not the so called sandtracks in AMA ..

last time Herlings lost on a sandtrack was last year Valkenswaard .. if my memory is correct Wink

Herlings in Assen , Lommel or Valkenswaard would whoop Tomacs ass ...

the way Tomac would whoop Herlings ass at MEC
Ottobianno 2017?
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RichardLoots 8/15/2018 10:14am
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Ottobianno 2017?
youre right .. Wink that was later in season and Tony dealt better with the heat and played Herlings
RichardLoots 8/15/2018 10:20am
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its not about chest pounding ... its about Tomac only wanting to race at USA tracks as he has a good record at home but on...
its not about chest pounding ... its about Tomac only wanting to race at USA tracks as he has a good record at home but on Euro tracks his record sucks

Tomac didnt race last MXON's ... now its on hometrack and he turns around 180 degrees ... from a meaningless race with unlucky schedule its now the most important race of the year for god and country ... LOL .... MEC is still there , championship is still the same .. His interview was just stunning if you remember he pulled out and why ..

if Herlings wins ? you think he will be lining up next years at Assen ?
If tomac wins ? you think he will be lining up at Assen ?

early wrote:
Eli can ride Euro tracks faster than any Euro he's raced against. He logged the fastest lap time of anyone in all 4 of the MXdN...
Eli can ride Euro tracks faster than any Euro he's raced against. He logged the fastest lap time of anyone in all 4 of the MXdN motos he raced in 2013 and 2014. Also doing that on a 250 in 2013 and on a sand track in 2014. Crashes and bad starts cost him, but the facts of speed are not on your side my friend.
maybe he can , but he never did ...he didnt win any moto ... the winner takes the flag first , not the dude who did a fast lap and crashed the laps before and after ...
since when are crashes and bad starts not a part of moto ?? dont use it when it suits you
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maybe he can , but he never did ...he didnt win any moto ... the winner takes the flag first , not the dude who did...
maybe he can , but he never did ...he didnt win any moto ... the winner takes the flag first , not the dude who did a fast lap and crashed the laps before and after ...
since when are crashes and bad starts not a part of moto ?? dont use it when it suits you
Point is to say the actual track has anything to do with his decisions is just dumb.
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Squirrelings 8/15/2018 10:34am
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maybe he can , but he never did ...he didnt win any moto ... the winner takes the flag first , not the dude who did...
maybe he can , but he never did ...he didnt win any moto ... the winner takes the flag first , not the dude who did a fast lap and crashed the laps before and after ...
since when are crashes and bad starts not a part of moto ?? dont use it when it suits you
Isn't Tomac 5 for 6 in MXGP motos? Something like that. Keep talking though.
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