Riding after Traumatic Brain Injury

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3/27/2017 10:44pm Edited Date/Time 3/28/2017 12:55am
Wow, I got a lot more replies than I thought I would. I guess other people have had head injuries as well, or just, you know... bad injuries.

Kenny, chill out a little. I get it, you don't have to be rude about it. It's just that I've had bad experiences with doctors in the past in that regard. I once waited out a broken arm way longer than necessary. However, you obviously raise a very good point. Anyway...

I'm garnering that the collective consensus here is that I should just wait until next year. So be it, you guys are right, that is a much better idea. I'm now painfully aware of the complexity and sensitivity of the brain. For truly no conceivable reason, I am just... well, anxious about everything now. My appearance, the placement of things... it's weird. Normally when you're anxious about yourself and your appearance, people associate it with confidence issues, but it's much more complicated than that. I have no confidence issues, it has nothing to do with that. You guys are right, the brain is very enigmatic in nature. I have felt like a different person for as long as I can remember after the accident. I don't actually remember coming out of the coma. They said I was extremely delirious (as is common after a brain injury) for another week after I awoke from the coma. My memory doesn't actually begin until two weeks into my stay there, after all the surgeries were done, I was out of the ICU, and I was transferred to the rehabilitation ward.

I didn't suffer only the TBI, but I mentioned it exclusively because it is the only part that is relevant to the question. I also suffered numerous broken ribs, a collapsed lung, a cleanly snapped clavicle bone (from which I now have a huge scar and a big metal plate over it), and finally, the absolute worst part of it all... the onset of Central Diabetes Insipidus, a condition for which I must now take pills every day for the rest of my life. I won't go in to detail, but basically, I hit my head so hard that a part of my brain controlling the retention of water no longer functions. So I would pee myself to death in a week without synthetic hormone pills. Thank God for modern medicine, am I right?
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3/27/2017 11:15pm Edited Date/Time 3/27/2017 11:18pm
malachi177 wrote:
Last summer on June 11 in Nanaimo (amateur day before the National) my son (16 at the time) was life flighted to Vancouver. His bike (rmz250)...
Last summer on June 11 in Nanaimo (amateur day before the National) my son (16 at the time) was life flighted to Vancouver. His bike (rmz250) landed on his head/chest area resulting in him being in a coma for 5 days, along with two badly bruised ( they called them fractured ??) lungs, broken nose, and a torn esophagus. He spent 10 days in the hospital. He's doing good with his recovery and seems fine aside from his smile is different. He seems angry all the time, not sure if it's not riding, being a 17 year old teenager, or what. He wants to race again, I've told him he can ride this summer and work on corners and just get seat time. I myself am on the fence on whether he should line up again. It's all he's known since he was 5 years old. The doctors of course told us that he should never ride a bike again, shouldn't play any sports ever again etc. The wife doesn't want him racing again either.
Malachi, thanks for sharing. The anger is probably a combination of everything, including the injury. Personally, I haven't had anger issues since my injury, but it is extremely common after TBI. That's not to say that I haven't had other issues, though. I remain considerably more aloof about everything than I ever was before, my injury-induced anxiety is out of control, and people tell me that my short-term memory is still pretty bad.

As for whether he should ride or play any sports again, well, I think you should weigh, or rather he should weigh, the importance of these things to his life against the possibility of becoming a vegetable, or dying. In fact, I'll be completely honest: the doctor said that if I ever sustain a brain injury as bad as this one again, I will likely end up a brain-dead vegetable. He considered the fact that my injury was on the concrete, and that I've never had a bad injury on the dirt racing motocross, which is what led him to advise never riding a street bike again, but only taking a summer off of motocross, because of its importance to me. That's not to say I couldn't end up a vegetable from racing motocross now though, too.

Basically, would his life be worth living without sports and dangerous activities? If the answer is yes, he should follow the doctor's advice.

But hey, we gotta look on the bright side every once in a while. After my experience, I can confidently say that it is very important to find the good in every situation. Otherwise, we'd drive ourselves crazy with regret... at least, I would. I'm intensely more philosophical than I ever was before, for some strange reason, and I view life in a different way. I'm no longer as anxious (different from the injury-induced anxiety issues I have) about social situations and lots of other intimidating things that I used to be anxious about. I tell myself that nothing I, or anyone else, will ever do will matter in the collective sum of the entirety of everything in the universe. However, as Ghandi said, "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." For our own sake.
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3/27/2017 11:39pm
OP, take some time away to heal up 100%. I took a few scary hits to the head. (Not as serious as yours) And made me realize how precious my brain is in the first place. I ended up buying a few mountain bikes and have been competing ever since.
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3/28/2017 12:27am Edited Date/Time 3/28/2017 12:28am
From one Alaskan to another: I had a stroke on my 20th birthday (7.5 years ago) that left me in a similar situation. TBI, motor control deficiencies (to say the least), etc. I still haven't fully recovered and I don't feel like I ever will. Obviously, the nature of our expericences are quite different, but I will say this: don't ride.

I know that summer in Alaska is the best thing ever and the thought of spinning laps at Kincaid is ever-inviting, but you MUST consider your future health and balance that against present desires. Hook a lip off the Mach and take a digger? You'll never ride (or maybe walk) again. Trust me when I say it's not worth it.

Hit the Kenai, do some fishing, or do whatever it is that you enjoy doing outside during the summer. Lord knows the limited time we get is precious. The important thing is that you get yourself healthy before you consider riding again. I'll never race again as I will take blood thinners for the rest of my life to prevent another stroke and trust me, you don't want to be in that position. Consider hitting the MTB flow trails at Kindcaid, they're world-class. Be careful, obviously. Find the other things in life that you enjoy and explore those more thoroughly before throwing your leg over the bike.

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3/28/2017 12:35am
A friend of mine had an incident 2 years ago during practice at a local race. No flaggers on the jumps, he crashed and two riders jumped on his head. He was in coma for like 3 days. Even now, he still has problems with concentration and some side effects with mood swings etc. A year after his incident he started riding again but still had some problems with concentration. IMO he jumped on the bike way to fast. My advice to you is to take a year off and enjoy life. Buy the best helmet protection there is and start slowly again. Only ride on days you feel well and listen to your body. From what I understand you're not a stupid person, so you can probably feel what is the best thing for you. Good luck in the future and hopefully we will see a picture of you on the forums again when you're back riding.
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3/28/2017 10:42am
I've never been in any wrecks that bad dealing with my head, but I would say, if you want to stay around the track, do this. Get in the best shape of your life, running, mtn biking, etc, then find a friend, or someone that needs a hand at the track and be their mechanic for the summer. You're still around the track and you're learning about the bike, which will in turn help when you get back on yours.

Good luck!
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3/28/2017 11:04am Edited Date/Time 3/28/2017 12:20pm
My son had a bad wreck 4 years ago, bike seized on the face of a large jump, landed on his face, broke it in 3 places and was in a coma for about 4 days. In the early days he struggled with balance, could not name 10 vegetables or even 10 colors. Progress was fairly quick and within 3 months was pretty much back to normal. Doctors were very surprised with the speed of his recovery and after 6 months he started University.....he graduates this year.

At the time, the doctors said no riding for 2 years but then went on to say well maybe some light riding after one year may be OK (not fully understanding the realities of motocross I guess). Unbeknownst to me, he was riding at a friends place after about a year and had a fairly mild crash but hit his head and immediately had memory issues. Luckily this scared him and he stayed off the bikes until this year.

He just bought a bike now and he is riding for fun. I think he has been away from the racing for long enough to know it is not about shaving another second off your lap time come hell or high water. I do need to remind him that it is just for fun and things seem to be going fine. He is 24 now so he makes his own decisions but these kids that lived and breathed moto from an early age have such a hard time with not having it in their lives. His outlook on life is so much better now that he is riding again and he is so much happier. Is it the stupidest thing he could do or the best thing....who knows....some say you need to protect your health at all costs....some say you never know how long you have so live life to the fullest. Only you can choose.
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3/28/2017 11:33am
I gotta echo what most have said in here....

Take the time off and listen to your doctor. You're still really young and have plenty of good riding years ahead of you. Go bust your butt in some hard core fitness stuff , get in shape....get your mind and body working well again. Then....come back to moto. It's not worth the risk , if you have any doubt what so ever in your mind. The sport is already brutal enough , even if you are 100% ready.
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3/28/2017 12:58pm Edited Date/Time 3/28/2017 1:34pm
Wow, I got a lot more replies than I thought I would. I guess other people have had head injuries as well, or just, you know...
Wow, I got a lot more replies than I thought I would. I guess other people have had head injuries as well, or just, you know... bad injuries.

Kenny, chill out a little. I get it, you don't have to be rude about it. It's just that I've had bad experiences with doctors in the past in that regard. I once waited out a broken arm way longer than necessary. However, you obviously raise a very good point. Anyway...

I'm garnering that the collective consensus here is that I should just wait until next year. So be it, you guys are right, that is a much better idea. I'm now painfully aware of the complexity and sensitivity of the brain. For truly no conceivable reason, I am just... well, anxious about everything now. My appearance, the placement of things... it's weird. Normally when you're anxious about yourself and your appearance, people associate it with confidence issues, but it's much more complicated than that. I have no confidence issues, it has nothing to do with that. You guys are right, the brain is very enigmatic in nature. I have felt like a different person for as long as I can remember after the accident. I don't actually remember coming out of the coma. They said I was extremely delirious (as is common after a brain injury) for another week after I awoke from the coma. My memory doesn't actually begin until two weeks into my stay there, after all the surgeries were done, I was out of the ICU, and I was transferred to the rehabilitation ward.

I didn't suffer only the TBI, but I mentioned it exclusively because it is the only part that is relevant to the question. I also suffered numerous broken ribs, a collapsed lung, a cleanly snapped clavicle bone (from which I now have a huge scar and a big metal plate over it), and finally, the absolute worst part of it all... the onset of Central Diabetes Insipidus, a condition for which I must now take pills every day for the rest of my life. I won't go in to detail, but basically, I hit my head so hard that a part of my brain controlling the retention of water no longer functions. So I would pee myself to death in a week without synthetic hormone pills. Thank God for modern medicine, am I right?
I know what you're going through man I struggled a lot from mental issues when I was having seizures. I wouldn't really ever feel right and didn't want to do anything at all, i was always anxious for no reason as well

I'm not a professional on psychiatry by any means but I am someone that has gone through something similar to what you are going through right now

If you ever want to talk please just email me at thaney1026@gmail.com and we can exchange easier contact info there

Just remember that with hard work and a good attitude you will learn so much about life in general from this tough time. I always figured if I can get through this I can do anything I set my mind to and guess what, I was right. I'm not boasting here but my life has done a complete 180

I got though my tough time and so can you

P.S

Something about us Alaskans we can take the biggest ass beatings and come out just fine, i don't live in AK currently but It's always in my blood

- Tyler
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3/28/2017 1:31pm
Just my story here......

I had a Grade 3 concussion that pretty much ended my racing career in Sept. 2004. I was out for 5-6 hours, got a helicopter ride that I don't remember until I was told later, my parents were approached by a chaplin / priest while I was in the ER, and did some work to my memory. Short term memory isn't the greatest and noticed lil odd things over time. This concussion was my 5th one in I'd say past 4-5 years and each one got worse after the other.

Since then, I have rode probably 4-5 times in the past dozen or so years. I haven't done a gate drop since July 2004. When I ride a practice day, I call it doing my "5 laps of glory" by having fun by railing (in what feels like to me) corners, and calling it a day. I only ride for 1 of 2 reasons. 1) If a friend or my brother offers me to spin a few laps and I feel prepared for what and where I'm riding or 2) I get that bug to ride so bad I bother either friend or brother to ride. Just for fun and nothing serious. Once I get my own bike, I like to start doing GNCC type events after I shed off this belly I've had from not riding like I used to.

Key thing is to keep it fun but ride within your control. Doctors told me if I take another hit I got the last time again, I'll basically be a vegetable till the end. So that's always in the back of my mind. If I get the feeling of hitting a corner really, really good, that's good enough for me these days.
3/28/2017 1:54pm
Was taken out at Lorettas in 2011 (was 18) and was KO'd, and had a seizure on the track. Had slight bleeding on the brain but was very fortunate. Wasn't supposed to drive for 90 days, saw the neurologist, etc. and was riding again in the late fall. A dumb move on my part, but at the time it's what I loved and had aspirations of making a career out of it. Hindsight being 20/20 it's definitely not worth it, the risk/reward in this game is absurd, and you have a long life ahead of you. Rest up and do what the doctor says.
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malachi177 wrote:
Last summer on June 11 in Nanaimo (amateur day before the National) my son (16 at the time) was life flighted to Vancouver. His bike (rmz250)...
Last summer on June 11 in Nanaimo (amateur day before the National) my son (16 at the time) was life flighted to Vancouver. His bike (rmz250) landed on his head/chest area resulting in him being in a coma for 5 days, along with two badly bruised ( they called them fractured ??) lungs, broken nose, and a torn esophagus. He spent 10 days in the hospital. He's doing good with his recovery and seems fine aside from his smile is different. He seems angry all the time, not sure if it's not riding, being a 17 year old teenager, or what. He wants to race again, I've told him he can ride this summer and work on corners and just get seat time. I myself am on the fence on whether he should line up again. It's all he's known since he was 5 years old. The doctors of course told us that he should never ride a bike again, shouldn't play any sports ever again etc. The wife doesn't want him racing again either.
Malachi, thanks for sharing. The anger is probably a combination of everything, including the injury. Personally, I haven't had anger issues since my injury, but it...
Malachi, thanks for sharing. The anger is probably a combination of everything, including the injury. Personally, I haven't had anger issues since my injury, but it is extremely common after TBI. That's not to say that I haven't had other issues, though. I remain considerably more aloof about everything than I ever was before, my injury-induced anxiety is out of control, and people tell me that my short-term memory is still pretty bad.

As for whether he should ride or play any sports again, well, I think you should weigh, or rather he should weigh, the importance of these things to his life against the possibility of becoming a vegetable, or dying. In fact, I'll be completely honest: the doctor said that if I ever sustain a brain injury as bad as this one again, I will likely end up a brain-dead vegetable. He considered the fact that my injury was on the concrete, and that I've never had a bad injury on the dirt racing motocross, which is what led him to advise never riding a street bike again, but only taking a summer off of motocross, because of its importance to me. That's not to say I couldn't end up a vegetable from racing motocross now though, too.

Basically, would his life be worth living without sports and dangerous activities? If the answer is yes, he should follow the doctor's advice.

But hey, we gotta look on the bright side every once in a while. After my experience, I can confidently say that it is very important to find the good in every situation. Otherwise, we'd drive ourselves crazy with regret... at least, I would. I'm intensely more philosophical than I ever was before, for some strange reason, and I view life in a different way. I'm no longer as anxious (different from the injury-induced anxiety issues I have) about social situations and lots of other intimidating things that I used to be anxious about. I tell myself that nothing I, or anyone else, will ever do will matter in the collective sum of the entirety of everything in the universe. However, as Ghandi said, "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." For our own sake.
Good insight, thank you AK. The boy has played basketball all year at school (he grads in June) and has rode his mtn bike a lot. Mostly doing wheelies up and down the street, but he does hit the local trails around here every now and then. I think the whole "don't do this and that" from the doctors stems from their dislike of dirt bikes. Probably because they see their share of moto related issues in the ER. Doctors told us when he broke his shoulder almost two years ago that he should never ride again so I knew what was coming up from them. I'm really hoping when he rides for the first time I get to see the happiness in his face again. It's always been such a stress relief for him and he's always in such a great mood once he gets off the bike. Bought him another top quality helmet (6d this time) as well as a Shock Doctor mouth guard designed for helmet use. In a perfect world maybe he can do some practice days at a track later this year or next. But that's still too far down the road. Might be a good idea for yourself too to just ride for fun and work on corners and other fundamentals until next year :-)

I will say it has sure put a damper on my riding. I haven't rode since his crash. Best wishes AK.
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3/28/2017 5:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/28/2017 5:46pm
Was taken out at Lorettas in 2011 (was 18) and was KO'd, and had a seizure on the track. Had slight bleeding on the brain but...
Was taken out at Lorettas in 2011 (was 18) and was KO'd, and had a seizure on the track. Had slight bleeding on the brain but was very fortunate. Wasn't supposed to drive for 90 days, saw the neurologist, etc. and was riding again in the late fall. A dumb move on my part, but at the time it's what I loved and had aspirations of making a career out of it. Hindsight being 20/20 it's definitely not worth it, the risk/reward in this game is absurd, and you have a long life ahead of you. Rest up and do what the doctor says.
I still ride after my incident too except these days as soon as I'm getting tired and start making those little mistakes I back it down quite a bit, gotta protect that noggin lol
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I say listen to your Dr. you are so young and you have a long life ahead of you and many days of riding in your furure, dont cut it short by risking early return.

Also, I am in the minority here but we are not racing for a living, its really just a passion. You can ride even at an old age without racing and still have rhe passion.

Its about doing what you love, riding a dirt bike. whether its off road, mx practice or trials and desert. Shit you can be a wheelie boy!

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TP199 always makes me feel confident when I try to count concussions. He's still good so run it.
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Take summer off and get well. You will have a lot of summers ahead of you. No need to rush anything. Sure maybe Dr is wrong. But no need to prove it now. Chill out, hang out and go enjoy life. The bike will always be there next summer.
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3/29/2017 8:54pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2017 8:58pm
Jaybird67k wrote:
I had a brain bleed (subdural hematoma) and woke up one day after weeks of headaches and fell flat of my face getting out of bed...
I had a brain bleed (subdural hematoma) and woke up one day after weeks of headaches and fell flat of my face getting out of bed because I had lost motor control on my left side. Was rushed to the hospital for an emergency Craniotomy and was in ICU for a while.
They left a hole in my head (or window) to let the swelling go down for 3 months or more before installing a Prosthetic polymer acrylic type material to take the place of the original skull they removed.

I was riding within 2 months of the second surgery. Haven't had any problems so far.

Jason
Whoa, same thing happened to me! Complications from the TBI left me with a subdural hematoma, and a couple weeks into my hospital stay, I apparently tried to get out of bed to use the restroom. I stood up, probably tried to walk, and fell flat on my face. I'll never know why, but it may have been a similar reason as yours. Not exactly good for someone in the hospital for TBI. I don't remember any of it, and apparently, the technician assigned to watch me had just stepped out, even though they weren't supposed to.

Really glad that didn't kill me. That fall in the hospital left me unconscious for another couple days, though, weeks after I'd awoken from my original five day coma.
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3/29/2017 10:38pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2017 10:47pm
Don't ride, until told otherwise. The risk greatly outweighs the reward. Im not preaching, because it is your decision. But, consider what your loved ones and family could go through as well.

Honest questions. Did you ever regain consciousness at all after the impact, that you know of? Do you know if you were under sedation in those five days?
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I had several concussions back to back to back over a couple years. Not good for your dome. I would wait a long time before risking another one. The more time between head injuries, the better.
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You have to find a balance between pursing the things you enjoy and ensuring your long term health. In the case of neurological injuries, I would play it extremely conservative. If your neurologist says to wait X amount of time before riding, listen to him/her. You're 21, you have your whole life ahead. Another few months of not riding won't matter in the grand scheme of things. Use this time to pursue other hobbies, education, etc. that maybe you've been putting off.
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3/30/2017 7:42am
kkawboy14 wrote:
3 years ago I suffered a Sudden Cardiac Arrest, (sudden death) the heart stops pumping due to a viral infection causing swelling and the electrical gets...
3 years ago I suffered a Sudden Cardiac Arrest, (sudden death) the heart stops pumping due to a viral infection causing swelling and the electrical gets freaked out. Due to the heart not working the brain goes thru a trauma due to a lack of blood. Was in a coma for 5 days. It affected my memory and my eyesight. I had another heart failure a couple months ago and an open heart surgery a year and a half ago.

The only time I can't ride (which is right now) is when I'm taking blood thinners so as not to have a stroke from a blood clot. As soon as I'm off blood thinners.....braaaaap
Hallzilla wrote:
Sorry to hear that. Ive been on the thinners and they are no Joke
My father was on blood thinners when he fell and hit his head.

It was not even a hard hit, but hard enough. Over the next three days his head doubled in size. We were relieved when he did not survive.

Im sure your choice to not ride is difficult, but you are smart for doing so.

To our original poster...a year, or even 2, is nothing when compared to the rest of your life. Volunteer at the track, help others. Theres all kinds of ways you can still be involved and not risk your brain.

I had to not ride for about 2 yrs. It was horrible, but I took every penny I saved by not riding and built up my yz 250.

Big bore kit, 09 swingarm, new style plastic, etc.
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So guys, I need some input from someone who has suffered a debilitating head injury, or TBI. A mild concussion doesn't count. TBI is essentially a...
So guys, I need some input from someone who has suffered a debilitating head injury, or TBI. A mild concussion doesn't count. TBI is essentially a concussion, but far worse. To put things into perspective, I was in a coma for five days after my motorcycle accident (this was on the street). Am I saying that you need to have gone through the same thing? No. However, I would like some input from someone who has suffered a debilitating injury, maybe just an injury of any kind, and had to make the decision about whether to ride the following year.

I'm twenty-one years old, and have raced motocross every summer since I was fourteen. It makes me feel... well, I'm not really sure how to describe it. My life is rather mundane, but when I get on that bike and race, I feel alive and in control for however long I'm riding it. I live in Alaska, by the way, so summer is like five months max.

Point is, the injury will not be the hardest thing I've ever had to go through, if I do indeed decide to stay off the dirt bike this summer. The hardest thing, guaranteed, that I will have gone though, is to have stayed off the bike this summer. It is one of the very few things I truly love in life, and I fervently look forward to it every year. I do nothing in the winter.

Buuuut, and this is a big but, I'm also not an idiot. My brain injury occurred in very late September of last year. If you all think it's more than just wise, but critical, to stay off the bike this year, just like my doctor thinks (but you know doctors... always over-protective of your physical health, like parents), then I will stay off of it this year. Looking up at that bright sun, experiencing the peak of summer greatness, it will undoubtedly be monumentally difficult to put riding into the back of my mind, but I can do it.

What do you think?

Thanks!
Uhhhh..none of us are qualified to answer this.

I love motocross/supercross but it is hardly worth ruining your life. Play video games. Get some RC trucks (Traxxas X-Maxx is nice) You'll get some of the same satisfaction of riding without the risk.



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I have held off on commenting on this thread, but it is still alive, so here ya go..

After years of mx and football, I accumulated multiple concussions. No, I have no idea how many. Then I had a "bad" one while racing mx, the kind you wake up from three weeks later in a hospital and get to learn how to walk and talk all over again from. I am now in my late 40s. Sometimes I can remember my kid's names, sometimes I can't. Sometimes I can remember my way home from work, sometimes not. Sometimes I get raging headaches that last for a week, sometimes not. The girl that I remember taking to senior prom, well, she isn't the girl I actually took.

My advice? I can assure you, first hand, that your brain is way more important than riding. Listen to your freak'n doctor.
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tprice07 wrote:
Uhhhh..none of us are qualified to answer this. I love motocross/supercross but it is hardly worth ruining your life. Play video games. Get some RC trucks...
Uhhhh..none of us are qualified to answer this.

I love motocross/supercross but it is hardly worth ruining your life. Play video games. Get some RC trucks (Traxxas X-Maxx is nice) You'll get some of the same satisfaction of riding without the risk.



Those X-Maxxs stock? Or have you thrown in some CC or Kershaw power? Pro-Line should be announcing their new X-Maxx wheels/tires any day now.
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3/30/2017 8:32am Edited Date/Time 3/30/2017 8:32am
Not trying to hijack or start yet another JS7 thread...but I heard a commentator say on a video of Stewart that was several years old, that he had experienced 7 or 8 diagnosed "serious" concussions by that time. That was before the A1 incident last year, and before the 1 or 2 more that he had right after this video came out. It makes me wonder how many times he's had genuine TBI, and maybe never had it diagnosed or even acknowledged. If that's the case...and not saying it is, but IF that's the case...it sure might explain some of his "not riding like Bubba" in the last few years.

Like gtrider80 posted, I've had my share of concussions both off the track (football in HS) and on the track...and the last couple took me a few days to totally get back to feeling like "me" again. I've been very blessed that I've never had the "bad one" that altered my motor functions or anything else really serious. But, I'd be lying if I said that the reason I don't race anymore at my age (58) is that that I'm not concerned about this kind of damage. It's serious, and I just hope that young riders (and their parents/sponsors) listen to their physicians. No amount of glory that comes from racing is worth could ultimately happen.
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3/30/2017 9:22am
gt80rider wrote:
Those X-Maxxs stock? Or have you thrown in some CC or Kershaw power? Pro-Line should be announcing their new X-Maxx wheels/tires any day now.
Bone stock, haven't even driven the Snap-On one yet...got a deal on it and was tempted to sell it and my 6s to buy two new 8s.

Also, Pro-Line release their body the same day I received a new body that I just ordered...I was super bummed haha. I'll be checking out their tires for sure. I was tempted to pickup some of those losi xl tires or whatever they are called...look like actual monster truck tires.
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3/30/2017 9:35am
From an Old Fart that also has a moto addiction... take some time away. You need some rehab, I did the same after chasing Pro dreams... and chased me some split tail. You have lots of time, you'll be back.

The good thing about it is the money you save on bikes you can now spend on Louella's. Although maybe it costs more to get them across the Aleutian Islands? Nah, can't be more then these fuel injected programable air sprung 4 bangers can they?
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3/30/2017 10:13am Edited Date/Time 3/30/2017 10:29am
Asking here for information is fine, but the one you really need to pay attention to is your doc. Have a good discussion with him. Don't ask "can I ride" or "should I ride", as you are forcing him into being cautious for legal reasons. Right or wrong, appreciate what they have to deal with. Having said that, you can ask "what would happen if I hit my head at 8 months, what about 11?" Or, ask what exactly is changing during the healing process and what signs will indicate I'm fully healed. Ask for facts, or knowledge on what is going on vice guidance. Then use that to make your own decision. I drove myself into the ground in 1982 on an RM250 and cracked my skull in three places and broke the helmet. We did not have the care, or concerns, about head injuries we do today. I feel pretty certain I don't have as good of a memory of events that others do. Understand this is your brain, it effects everything. You don't need to hit anywhere near as hard as you already did to have an impact on your life, and not for the better. My advice would be to take the time off and do it right. Learn something new. You're in Alaska, go hunting or climb a mountain. Run a marathon or triathlon, race shifter karts, read books, play chess, focus on a career, whatever.
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3/31/2017 6:12pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2017 6:15pm
kzizok wrote:
Don't ride, until told otherwise. The risk greatly outweighs the reward. Im not preaching, because it is your decision. But, consider what your loved ones and...
Don't ride, until told otherwise. The risk greatly outweighs the reward. Im not preaching, because it is your decision. But, consider what your loved ones and family could go through as well.

Honest questions. Did you ever regain consciousness at all after the impact, that you know of? Do you know if you were under sedation in those five days?
They didn't give me sedation until after I came to. I mean, I didn't "come to" in the sense that I suddenly woke up from a nap feeling all peppy and energized. I was hardly responsive upon awakening from my coma of five days. I've been told my eyes didn't really move, and I was delirious to the point that it looked like I was on hardcore drugs. If I wasn't staring at the wall, I was sleeping. They said I slept almost nonstop after awakening... 'course they also had me sedated, because during that time is when they started doing surgeries. So who knows. It's all a big blur to me, I'm just going off what people have told me.

To answer your first question though, no. I do know that. I never regained consciousness for five days after the impact.
3/31/2017 10:01pm
MXMattii wrote:
Watch this: The Crash Reel and be smart. [embed][/embed]
Watch this: The Crash Reel and be smart.

No words. Thank you for posting that link. Well worth it.

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