SX is not MX

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At the LA Coliseum we saw the first motocross inside of the stadium. Overtime we saw this evolve into the aerial show it is today. I'm all for people liking what they like but please stop insinuating Supercross has anything to do with motocross. Maybe in some alternate reality it might but in the world I live in it doesn't.

Ryan Dungey is the 2015 World SX champion not the World MX champion. Congrats to RD and The Man for a job well done!

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Supercross seems played out, only so much you can do with a baseball & football field.
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Less triples more turn track
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The Rock wrote:
At the LA Coliseum we saw the first motocross inside of the stadium. Overtime we saw this evolve into the aerial show it is today. I'm...
At the LA Coliseum we saw the first motocross inside of the stadium. Overtime we saw this evolve into the aerial show it is today. I'm all for people liking what they like but please stop insinuating Supercross has anything to do with motocross. Maybe in some alternate reality it might but in the world I live in it doesn't.

Ryan Dungey is the 2015 World SX champion not the World MX champion. Congrats to RD and The Man for a job well done!

Right, SX has nothing to do with MX .......

That's why the same teams and riders compete in both .......

"insinuating" ? No one is insinuating, it's dirt bike racing, it's fact.
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The Rock wrote:
At the LA Coliseum we saw the first motocross inside of the stadium. Overtime we saw this evolve into the aerial show it is today. I'm...
At the LA Coliseum we saw the first motocross inside of the stadium. Overtime we saw this evolve into the aerial show it is today. I'm all for people liking what they like but please stop insinuating Supercross has anything to do with motocross. Maybe in some alternate reality it might but in the world I live in it doesn't.

Ryan Dungey is the 2015 World SX champion not the World MX champion. Congrats to RD and The Man for a job well done!

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Right, SX has nothing to do with MX ....... That's why the same teams and riders compete in both ....... "insinuating" ? No one is insinuating...
Right, SX has nothing to do with MX .......

That's why the same teams and riders compete in both .......

"insinuating" ? No one is insinuating, it's dirt bike racing, it's fact.
Motocross and Supercross aren't even close... Cole Seely will not be close to a podium this summer, He will be riding his ass off to get a top ten and if 5 GP guys show up, he wll fight to be in the top 15... there is a big dif between the two.. Rocko, My buddy Stu Thomsen ( Many time BMX Champ)and I went to the 1973 Superbowl of Motocross and that was Moto, Grand Tetons, Waterhole and everything!

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Another great thread by vital's finest
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Wtf
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You're obviously exaggerating if you believe they have nothing to do with each other. Same riders, same teams, same techniques. Yeah they're different nobody denies that, but do you honestly think we would have so many riders who have won championships in both MX and SX if they weren't very closely related.
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It's a different form of MX. Two different disciplines for sure , but to say it has " nothing " to do with MX? That's a bit over the top I think. It takes a different skill set to excel in both as well. And if you're good at both , that gives you a leg up on just being a better , well rounded rider. Some could say the offroad scene is even more different , and I have every bit of respect possible for those nutty bastards!
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The Rock wrote:
At the LA Coliseum we saw the first motocross inside of the stadium. Overtime we saw this evolve into the aerial show it is today. I'm...
At the LA Coliseum we saw the first motocross inside of the stadium. Overtime we saw this evolve into the aerial show it is today. I'm all for people liking what they like but please stop insinuating Supercross has anything to do with motocross. Maybe in some alternate reality it might but in the world I live in it doesn't.

Ryan Dungey is the 2015 World SX champion not the World MX champion. Congrats to RD and The Man for a job well done!

Don't talk rubbish !!

Supercross is basically just motocross indoors , no more . no less .

If its totally unrelated , how come every single supercross championship winner ( except Ellis & Bell in the very early days ) has also won an outdoor national championship also ?

I agree that you can get riders who are more suited to one or the other at times ( such as McGrath ) , but basically its just the same
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zehn 4/15/2015 12:44am
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So what exactly makes MX superior to SX?
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Excellent replies and I blew it saying one had nothing to do with the other without providing more background.

I was attempting to make a philosophical point regarding the two disciplines. I was reacting to comments in another thread and had to blow off some steam before my head exploded.

Zehn where did I say one was better? I didn't.
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Excellent replies and I blew it saying one had nothing to do with the other without providing more background. I was attempting to make a philosophical...
Excellent replies and I blew it saying one had nothing to do with the other without providing more background.

I was attempting to make a philosophical point regarding the two disciplines. I was reacting to comments in another thread and had to blow off some steam before my head exploded.

Zehn where did I say one was better? I didn't.
Then why blow off steam ? Did someone dare compare Dungeys FIM SX championship to the World Motocross championship ? Everyone who posts here is well aware of the differences. Take a deep breath .
aaryn #234 4/15/2015 3:29am
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Is Motocross closer to something like GNCC / WORCS series or does it more resemble SX

Say in a complete fantasy world (we are here to bench race I guess) Would Dungey and co run up front in the GNCC it they spent as much time preparing for it as the currently do for SX.

Instead of racing SX and MX, turn their attention and race GNCC and MX.

Obviously this would never happen, there is a reason SX is the most popular of all the Off-Road Dirt Bike disciplines. Joe average sports fan can sit in a nice venue with all the amenities they need with in a few steps, along with all the on track excitement right in front of them.

But back to my question, screw the OP's topic, could Dungey start winning GNCC races if he spent say 6 months getting ready.
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aaryn #234 wrote:
Is Motocross closer to something like GNCC / WORCS series or does it more resemble SX Say in a complete fantasy world (we are here to...
Is Motocross closer to something like GNCC / WORCS series or does it more resemble SX

Say in a complete fantasy world (we are here to bench race I guess) Would Dungey and co run up front in the GNCC it they spent as much time preparing for it as the currently do for SX.

Instead of racing SX and MX, turn their attention and race GNCC and MX.

Obviously this would never happen, there is a reason SX is the most popular of all the Off-Road Dirt Bike disciplines. Joe average sports fan can sit in a nice venue with all the amenities they need with in a few steps, along with all the on track excitement right in front of them.

But back to my question, screw the OP's topic, could Dungey start winning GNCC races if he spent say 6 months getting ready.
Sure he could . Retired MXers win GNCCs.
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Sure he could . Retired MXers win GNCCs.
That Kaliub Russell is pretty dam good though. Could Dungey beat him?
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I've watched some pretty good MX riders bumblefuck their way through the woods simply because they'd never encountered those conditions. They could huck a triple no sweat but couldn't find their way up a slippery rock strewn slope to save their ass. A good rider will adapt to the conditions quickly though and with 6 months testing I believe RD would win a few GNCC races.

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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Sure he could . Retired MXers win GNCCs.
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That Kaliub Russell is pretty dam good though. Could Dungey beat him?
At a given event if he prepared yes .
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The biggest difference between the two is that all the best SX racers in the world race in one series while the best MX racers in the world are split between two....
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soccer IS football
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No, Soccer is Soccer and Football is AFL............
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aaryn #234 wrote:
Is Motocross closer to something like GNCC / WORCS series or does it more resemble SX Say in a complete fantasy world (we are here to...
Is Motocross closer to something like GNCC / WORCS series or does it more resemble SX

Say in a complete fantasy world (we are here to bench race I guess) Would Dungey and co run up front in the GNCC it they spent as much time preparing for it as the currently do for SX.

Instead of racing SX and MX, turn their attention and race GNCC and MX.

Obviously this would never happen, there is a reason SX is the most popular of all the Off-Road Dirt Bike disciplines. Joe average sports fan can sit in a nice venue with all the amenities they need with in a few steps, along with all the on track excitement right in front of them.

But back to my question, screw the OP's topic, could Dungey start winning GNCC races if he spent say 6 months getting ready.
6 months? Doubtful. A few years? Absolutely. I don't know what Ryans background in offroad is, but if he's never done it before he would struggle for a few years. These guys are the best at their discipline because it's what they've trained for. Dungey has the determination and confidence to succeed at whatever it is he does in life. That's why he's a champion. You don't become a champion at anything by just sheer talent.
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Excellent replies and I blew it saying one had nothing to do with the other without providing more background. I was attempting to make a philosophical...
Excellent replies and I blew it saying one had nothing to do with the other without providing more background.

I was attempting to make a philosophical point regarding the two disciplines. I was reacting to comments in another thread and had to blow off some steam before my head exploded.

Zehn where did I say one was better? I didn't.
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Then why blow off steam ? Did someone dare compare Dungeys FIM SX championship to the World Motocross championship ? Everyone who posts here is well...
Then why blow off steam ? Did someone dare compare Dungeys FIM SX championship to the World Motocross championship ? Everyone who posts here is well aware of the differences. Take a deep breath .
Thank you for the question but you are wrong with your generalization that everyone that posts here knows the differences. It was actually the notion the SX championship is the only world title that matters (not to mention the series never leaves the US) that saw me start this thread and another comment that isn't worth repeating.

It is bad enough we have so much SX influence in American MX (amateur tracks are the biggest violators) but when BS is put out that a US series is the only "world" title that matters is a call to arms for me. It is disrespectful to Lackey LaPorte RV and his GP counterparts.

I love all racing SX the Nationals and the GPs and avoid saying one is better than the other but the MX purist in me couldn't stand idly by without commenting when the BS got too deep here.
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A. DLeary 4/15/2015 10:32am
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Roger De Coster once pulled Mike Alessi over and told him that SX is just not that different than MX, informing him that the same guys who are out front in supercross are typically out front in the outdoors.
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