Would You Hit This?

mikebrownsound 12/7/2014 12:32pm
12/7/2014 12:32pm
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Are you just being a contrarian, or do you seriously not see the problem here? Yeah it's a sick jump, but it's absolutely stupid to be...
Are you just being a contrarian, or do you seriously not see the problem here?

Yeah it's a sick jump, but it's absolutely stupid to be doing it with other riders around him. He's lucky it didn't go bad. If that video didn't include other riders being put in harm's way then we'd all be gushing over it.
First of all he was not even close to the other lad when he lands perfectly. - If you want to argue? then blame him for doing a double after he did a perfect jump




I see your point to ofc but i dont think the rider was that close, 50 feet or 150 feet the impact would be devestating anyway.
Ofc you must have respect and dont do anything to hurt someone but i dont think he did anything wrong? He landed perfectly and when you said " he´s lucky it didn´t go bad" He was not even close to go sideway there if he landed and whiskeythrottle the whole thing i would use that sentence you just did =S ?

Maybe someone was telling him you are good to its clear? Im not saying you are wrong with your comment or anything but this is motocross everytime you jump you can jeopardize someone right?
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Electro 12/7/2014 12:36pm
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A lot less risky, to go nose first in that second gap. Whew .... Wonder what it would take to jump all six and not have that pesky double to contend with after. Lol
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JW381 12/7/2014 12:37pm
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After watching a few of the different angles, I have to agree I'm kind of against this. The one where the two guys are basically rolling the section is just pure stupidity. I guess I take split classes for granted, because at virtually every track I've ever ridden here in the PNW they split up the classes. Back when I first started they used to let quads run with bikes, but that ended real quick after a kid died.

Also, we need someone with a measuring tape to get a solid number, I keep seeing the 250' number showing up all over social media.
mikebrownsound 12/7/2014 12:40pm
12/7/2014 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 12/7/2014 12:42pm
JW381 wrote:
After watching a few of the different angles, I have to agree I'm kind of against this. The one where the two guys are basically rolling...
After watching a few of the different angles, I have to agree I'm kind of against this. The one where the two guys are basically rolling the section is just pure stupidity. I guess I take split classes for granted, because at virtually every track I've ever ridden here in the PNW they split up the classes. Back when I first started they used to let quads run with bikes, but that ended real quick after a kid died.

Also, we need someone with a measuring tape to get a solid number, I keep seeing the 250' number showing up all over social media.
First of all he was not even close to the other lad when he lands perfectly 15-25 w/e feet away from him . - If people want to blame him, then blame him for doing a double after he did a perfect jump?

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JamesOliver 12/7/2014 12:46pm
12/7/2014 12:46pm
That picture is irrelevant, I don't know why you keep posting it. He didn't land on anyone on that occasion but who knows what could happen in the future. The fact is that he lands the jump perfectly but nearly takes a guy out when he takes off for the second jump. The speed difference between the two riders is huge and the short amount of space between landing and taking off again leaves him no room or time to be able to slow down or take avoiding action if a slow rider is in his path.
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JW381 12/7/2014 12:47pm
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mikebrownsound wrote:
First of all he was not even close to the other lad when he lands perfectly 15-25 w/e feet away from him . - If people...
First of all he was not even close to the other lad when he lands perfectly 15-25 w/e feet away from him . - If people want to blame him, then blame him for doing a double after he did a perfect jump?

It's about rate of closure though. Since he's going about freeway speed when he lands, and that other guy is rolling in 2nd gear, things happen quick, all it would take is for that other guy to get a little wobble and disaster ensues.

I never specifically said he was stupid, even though he somewhat is, it's just a stupid situation all together.
mikebrownsound 12/7/2014 12:51pm
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It's about rate of closure though. Since he's going about freeway speed when he lands, and that other guy is rolling in 2nd gear, things happen...
It's about rate of closure though. Since he's going about freeway speed when he lands, and that other guy is rolling in 2nd gear, things happen quick, all it would take is for that other guy to get a little wobble and disaster ensues.

I never specifically said he was stupid, even though he somewhat is, it's just a stupid situation all together.
You kidding me right? Well i disagree. But i do agree that it can be a dumb situation all together but this to me was not close to be dumb. Just my opinion and understand your and i respect it but it looks to me that the other rider was not even on the track he just pulled of to the side a bit? Maybe im wrong.
mikebrownsound 12/7/2014 12:52pm
12/7/2014 12:52pm
JamesOliver wrote:
That picture is irrelevant, I don't know why you keep posting it. He didn't land on anyone on that occasion but who knows what could happen...
That picture is irrelevant, I don't know why you keep posting it. He didn't land on anyone on that occasion but who knows what could happen in the future. The fact is that he lands the jump perfectly but nearly takes a guy out when he takes off for the second jump. The speed difference between the two riders is huge and the short amount of space between landing and taking off again leaves him no room or time to be able to slow down or take avoiding action if a slow rider is in his path.
I respect your opinion and i do understand that you can hurt someone bad. But i´ve seen way worse than this so this was just blown up of porpotion if you ask me.
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BAMX 12/7/2014 12:56pm
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JW381 wrote:
It's about rate of closure though. Since he's going about freeway speed when he lands, and that other guy is rolling in 2nd gear, things happen...
It's about rate of closure though. Since he's going about freeway speed when he lands, and that other guy is rolling in 2nd gear, things happen quick, all it would take is for that other guy to get a little wobble and disaster ensues.

I never specifically said he was stupid, even though he somewhat is, it's just a stupid situation all together.
My experience has been that the guys rolling everything are the most likely to change lanes at the drop of a hat. If he would have moved over, he would have been collected and both of them would have gotten crumpled. I have no issue with him jumping it but him jumping that close to others is just lame.
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JW381 12/7/2014 1:04pm
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BAMX wrote:
My experience has been that the guys rolling everything are the most likely to change lanes at the drop of a hat. If he would have...
My experience has been that the guys rolling everything are the most likely to change lanes at the drop of a hat. If he would have moved over, he would have been collected and both of them would have gotten crumpled. I have no issue with him jumping it but him jumping that close to others is just lame.
It's true, that's why hitting jumps when guys roll them is terrifying. I hate it. I see guys all the time roll doubles and get wobble at the top when their bike gets a little negative G force and they can't handle it!

Bottom line, a jump that big should be as "controlled" as possible, and jumping it when there's two guys rolling the section that you're flying over isn't thinking of the total picture. Awesome jump, huge balls, but dumb situation.
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Radical 12/7/2014 1:09pm
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captmoto wrote:
Never ever but I'm an old man.
I think there was something like that out at Pala wasn't there? Did anybody ever measure that?
There were 3 big jumps at Pala plus a series of jumps that I don't believe could be combined because there wasn't a runway. The section started with a small jump with only about 12-15 foot of runway out of a tight turn.

On the back side of the national track there was a big triple that I did not clear before they closed it but I wanted to someday. I can't imagine it was more that 100-120ft.

The finish line table was pretty huge. They turned it into a double for the national. That was pretty big and the height those guys reached was insane. I would not even think about that one.

There was one more and it was insane! Coming out of the big whoop section Dean Wilson was launching over a valley, skipping it entirely. Watch the 250's and enjoy. That might be as big as this jump but far more impressive.
That's all I think of at Pala.
I miss that place.
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moscrop940 12/7/2014 1:17pm
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Let me tell you, unless you have stood next to those jumps the video still doesn't do justice. 10 feet short or 5 feet long, your done. No sprained ankels, no broken rest....DONE

mikebrownsound 12/7/2014 1:18pm
12/7/2014 1:18pm
BAMX wrote:
My experience has been that the guys rolling everything are the most likely to change lanes at the drop of a hat. If he would have...
My experience has been that the guys rolling everything are the most likely to change lanes at the drop of a hat. If he would have moved over, he would have been collected and both of them would have gotten crumpled. I have no issue with him jumping it but him jumping that close to others is just lame.
I agree. But i still think this was blowing up of porpotion.
mikebrownsound 12/7/2014 1:19pm
12/7/2014 1:19pm
JW381 wrote:
It's true, that's why hitting jumps when guys roll them is terrifying. I hate it. I see guys all the time roll doubles and get wobble...
It's true, that's why hitting jumps when guys roll them is terrifying. I hate it. I see guys all the time roll doubles and get wobble at the top when their bike gets a little negative G force and they can't handle it!

Bottom line, a jump that big should be as "controlled" as possible, and jumping it when there's two guys rolling the section that you're flying over isn't thinking of the total picture. Awesome jump, huge balls, but dumb situation.
Well that i agree !
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uk125250 12/7/2014 2:25pm
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JW381 wrote:
Ballsy. I can't find that one from France (or Spain, somewhere in Not America). Big downhill gap.
You talking about the one in Jaurez, Spain from the des nations 1996?

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JW381 12/7/2014 2:36pm
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JW381 wrote:
Ballsy. I can't find that one from France (or Spain, somewhere in Not America). Big downhill gap.
uk125250 wrote:
You talking about the one in Jaurez, Spain from the des nations 1996?
No, but that is crazy too! Emig on that 5honey.
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nytsmaC 12/7/2014 3:08pm
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He's going to destroy Cairoli next year.
F150Motocrosser 12/8/2014 10:15am
12/8/2014 10:15am
Anxiously awaiting Brotocross to weigh in on this one..

I do agree with the comments about safety for the other riders on the track... but can anyone who was there comment on the setup to this before he actually hucked it?? Seems like people knew it was coming, seeing as how all the camera phones were out.

I know there are a few riders in the vicinity of him, but I'd be shocked if the kid just hucked it not knowing he had a clear line to do so. Did ANYONE at the track that day get pissed off or say anything about Rookie being ignorant towards other riders safety on this jump??

The gnarliness factor of this jump even out does this kid at Muddy Creek...

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Grizz 12/8/2014 10:19am
12/8/2014 10:19am
Some of you act like my grandma I swear. It was cool.
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jeffro413 12/8/2014 10:23am
12/8/2014 10:23am
I want to see the whole video approach and all from that section. That is just plain crazy!
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Frodad78 12/8/2014 10:29am
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Grizz wrote:
Some of you act like my grandma I swear. It was cool.
Thats cool though, there are alot of people here that act like 5 year olds as well so it provides some nice balance.
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Grizz 12/8/2014 10:31am
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Grizz wrote:
Some of you act like my grandma I swear. It was cool.
Frodad78 wrote:
Thats cool though, there are alot of people here that act like 5 year olds as well so it provides some nice balance.
Can't argue with that!
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slipdog 12/8/2014 10:44am
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jeffro413 wrote:
I want to see the whole video approach and all from that section. That is just plain crazy!
I want to see the whole video approach and all from that section. That is just plain crazy!
Right here if it hasn't been posted already. I recant my earlier statement, from this view it is way more than 150'


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=582046255262783&fref=nf
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dak446 12/8/2014 10:56am
12/8/2014 10:56am
Why did he wimp out and only jump the first 4? Another 60 feet and he'd have had all 6.

Grab a gear, sissy.
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mxpro252 12/8/2014 10:56am
12/8/2014 10:56am
Well depending on where the second option has been, it may be safer to hit the first option. Not to mention hitting the second could leave you with 18 years of child support if you held it wide open.
F150Motocrosser 12/8/2014 11:04am
12/8/2014 11:04am
Screw putting a number on the distance!! The safety issue/debate aside, this has to be one of the most jaw dropping, epic hucks ever witnessed on a motocross track. 5th gear tapped with absolutely zero fucks given.

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