Dang...terrible line from the Junior World Champs PR...

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8/10/2014 4:16pm
ChrisB10 wrote:
What do Europeans do besides hating America and trying to move here?
lol thats about right.

move here and then try to change us to be like the place they just moved from....get right on it.

also kinda odd that every american sees this as biased but every euro seems fine with the wording. odd.
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8/10/2014 4:32pm
Doesn't seem that bad to me.
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8/10/2014 4:47pm
Who's Youthstream?!
8/10/2014 4:55pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2014 4:57pm
I wouldn't exactly say that,if anything they actually got it handed to them in their classes except maybe the 65cc,no need for the hate either way...
I wouldn't exactly say that,if anything they actually got it handed to them in their classes except maybe the 65cc,no need for the hate either way though:

125cc 11th,16th & 19th.
85cc 7th,16th & 40th
65cc 3rd,4th,5th

They tally results together to make up an overall team victory,well done on that and for making the trip,they seemed to dig it in the previews,all great experience too,
JA946 wrote:
How'd the UK do?
What's it got to do with my reply to MX757 about your boys? Go look them up if you like

I wasn't trying to be a DB,just telling it

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8/10/2014 5:00pm
Despite handing us our asses in the Junior WC, the Americans fell often but rebounded to come back and, well, hand us our asses. Classy report.
8/10/2014 5:10pm
I'm as big a fan of Team USA Junior MX as there is and I don't really see what the big deal is. All she said is that they were very fast, all of them crashed, they finished respectable, and all of the hoped for more. Sounds like it is on the money to me.
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8/10/2014 5:18pm
Translation: They crashed and still fucking beat us!
HA!....Yep!....pretty much this!

Love it!
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8/10/2014 5:20pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2014 5:23pm
MXA has never been the PR department of AMA racing..
Watson said about a US Moto publication saying stuff like that,hence the reply that's all

I just saw the 65 highlights again, I love watching those kids, they rip!

Brian Hsu was flying in the 125's,he's gonna be something special at this rate
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8/10/2014 6:54pm
Lol,hilarious.The whole team can't keep their bikes upright,didn't have the results they wanted,and yet were still pretty happy .................................( because they won) shhhhh.Laughing
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8/10/2014 10:44pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2014 10:47pm
GuyB wrote:
Yeah, this might be one of the more biased lines I've read in a Youthstream PR... "Meanwhile, flying the flag high for the stars and stripes...
Yeah, this might be one of the more biased lines I've read in a Youthstream PR...


"Meanwhile, flying the flag high for the stars and stripes of America, Jeremy Ryan, Jett Reynolds and Biese Carter all have one thing in common, they can’t keep their bikes on two wheels. Despite running a very hot pace, all three were forced to be happy with something a little less than they had expected yet still very respectable results with third, fourth and fifth. Although the individuals weren’t where they wanted them to be, all the Americans were ecstatic at the end of the day as Team USA’s were crowned as the winning Junior Nation. Team Germany was second and Team France was third."

And that was for the winning team. So what do they say for Germany and France?
how did it go down then???

seriously.... that report is pretty bang-on. I've actually spoken with a lot of the American kids since the racing (as I'm actually here, covering this thing) and I don't think a single one of them is happy with their overall finish, except perhaps Jeremy Ryan. Kip Bigelow (USA team boss) even said in his post-race speech that EVERY rider (except those that won the overalls) know they could have done better, it was that kind of event.

The winning score of 21pts is way higher than usual (i'm sure you knew this) and that reflects how hard it was to stay consistent and keep it on two wheels. Jett Reynolds crashed one lap from the end while leading and crashed again chasing a position which would have put him on the podium. Again, something I'm sure you knew. Carter Biese crashed on lap 1 when running 4th and remounted at the back of the field, coming back to 11th. I think every American rider crashed more than once during the racing.

You trying to instigate the masses, buying the pitch forks is much worse than anything written in this PR.... which definitely have never been written by Geoff (possibly the funniest thing i've read in a while)

It is the coolest event on the calendar and certainly a completely new challenge for these kids and Team USA's participation is much appreciated by the organisers, and every person who lined up for the autograph session USA put on.
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8/10/2014 10:52pm Edited Date/Time 8/11/2014 8:36am
GuyB wrote:
Yeah, this might be one of the more biased lines I've read in a Youthstream PR... "Meanwhile, flying the flag high for the stars and stripes...
Yeah, this might be one of the more biased lines I've read in a Youthstream PR...


"Meanwhile, flying the flag high for the stars and stripes of America, Jeremy Ryan, Jett Reynolds and Biese Carter all have one thing in common, they can’t keep their bikes on two wheels. Despite running a very hot pace, all three were forced to be happy with something a little less than they had expected yet still very respectable results with third, fourth and fifth. Although the individuals weren’t where they wanted them to be, all the Americans were ecstatic at the end of the day as Team USA’s were crowned as the winning Junior Nation. Team Germany was second and Team France was third."

And that was for the winning team. So what do they say for Germany and France?
Seems a little bit over the top there. Not sure its worthy of its own thread let alone describing it as 'terrible' and 'biased'. It just states the facts - They were fast. They crashed. They got results that were less than they might have hoped for individually ('despite running a very hot pace' as it was put) and yet they still did enough to win as a team. Seems a pretty reasonable description of exactly what happened.

Aussie Geoff barely goes to the GP's anymore let alone to smaller races. YS's race reports I think are now done by Nikki Scott. Seems like a cool cat from what people say. She races and I gather she's pretty nippy too. From New Zealand which might explain her slightly direct use of language, but at the same time the Kiwis are usually so laid back they're practically horizontal. Probably worth cutting her a little slack.




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8/10/2014 10:55pm
ayearinmx wrote:
how did it go down then??? seriously.... that report is pretty bang-on. I've actually spoken with a lot of the American kids since the racing (as...
how did it go down then???

seriously.... that report is pretty bang-on. I've actually spoken with a lot of the American kids since the racing (as I'm actually here, covering this thing) and I don't think a single one of them is happy with their overall finish, except perhaps Jeremy Ryan. Kip Bigelow (USA team boss) even said in his post-race speech that EVERY rider (except those that won the overalls) know they could have done better, it was that kind of event.

The winning score of 21pts is way higher than usual (i'm sure you knew this) and that reflects how hard it was to stay consistent and keep it on two wheels. Jett Reynolds crashed one lap from the end while leading and crashed again chasing a position which would have put him on the podium. Again, something I'm sure you knew. Carter Biese crashed on lap 1 when running 4th and remounted at the back of the field, coming back to 11th. I think every American rider crashed more than once during the racing.

You trying to instigate the masses, buying the pitch forks is much worse than anything written in this PR.... which definitely have never been written by Geoff (possibly the funniest thing i've read in a while)

It is the coolest event on the calendar and certainly a completely new challenge for these kids and Team USA's participation is much appreciated by the organisers, and every person who lined up for the autograph session USA put on.
Don't confuse them with facts.

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8/10/2014 11:04pm
mxmasta wrote:
Don't confuse them with facts.

When you say "them", who are you referring too?
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8/10/2014 11:11pm
dean122 wrote:
When you say "them", who are you referring too?
probably all the people who sharpened their pitchforks without having a clue what really happened

but I think Kongols (who'll probably get clicked again for posting the truth) nailed this one
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8/10/2014 11:33pm
Was this penned by Geoff?

The anti American rhetoric from the "World" series press machine is fuckin dazzling sometimes.

Do you know how empty the MXdN and other MX events are without the USA attending? Really, who gives a fuck.
8/11/2014 12:56am
It's not the first time the choice of words could have been a bit better in these Youthstream PR reports, but still calling it biased is a bit, well, biased.
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8/11/2014 12:59am
It's not the first time the choice of words could have been a bit better in these Youthstream PR reports, but still calling it biased is...
It's not the first time the choice of words could have been a bit better in these Youthstream PR reports, but still calling it biased is a bit, well, biased.
No it isn't, it's an observation of fact.
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8/11/2014 1:03am
Crush wrote:
Was this penned by Geoff? The anti American rhetoric from the "World" series press machine is fuckin dazzling sometimes. Do you know how empty the MXdN...
Was this penned by Geoff?

The anti American rhetoric from the "World" series press machine is fuckin dazzling sometimes.

Do you know how empty the MXdN and other MX events are without the USA attending? Really, who gives a fuck.
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8/11/2014 1:05am Edited Date/Time 8/11/2014 1:07am


Check out the form with a finger on both levers!

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On seeing the reporter is a Kiwi, the choice of words is pretty, well, "choice, Bro".

"Keeping their / your bikes on two wheels" is an oft use OZ / Kiwi line, and after it, it's quite respectful to the riders. Now, if you were to listen to the Kiwi girl talk those lines, well, I'm sure you Yanks wouldn't understand a bloody thing she said - Kiwis speak funny - well, they are damned near unintelligable. Freaks, the lot of 'em.........

People getting their knickers in a twist, over not very much..

She's far from being the paid mouthpiece for Youthstream, that MX Geoff is. Though, she may well grow into that, if she wants to keep on in Luongo's employ.
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8/11/2014 1:28am Edited Date/Time 8/11/2014 2:00am
I think if she used 'had' instead of 'have' and 'couldn't' instead of 'can't' then it would change the whole report

'Jeremy Ryan, Jett Reynolds and Biese Carter all had one thing in common, they couldn’t keep their bikes on two wheels.'

but honestly it doesn't seem as bad to me as it does to others
8/11/2014 5:18am
dboivin wrote:
agree, very biased. face it, everyone hates us. lol.

...our guys struggled, looks like everyone else struggled worse.
Yeah i hate the 'mericans, that's why i follow your series...Whistling
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ayearinmx wrote:
how did it go down then??? seriously.... that report is pretty bang-on. I've actually spoken with a lot of the American kids since the racing (as...
how did it go down then???

seriously.... that report is pretty bang-on. I've actually spoken with a lot of the American kids since the racing (as I'm actually here, covering this thing) and I don't think a single one of them is happy with their overall finish, except perhaps Jeremy Ryan. Kip Bigelow (USA team boss) even said in his post-race speech that EVERY rider (except those that won the overalls) know they could have done better, it was that kind of event.

The winning score of 21pts is way higher than usual (i'm sure you knew this) and that reflects how hard it was to stay consistent and keep it on two wheels. Jett Reynolds crashed one lap from the end while leading and crashed again chasing a position which would have put him on the podium. Again, something I'm sure you knew. Carter Biese crashed on lap 1 when running 4th and remounted at the back of the field, coming back to 11th. I think every American rider crashed more than once during the racing.

You trying to instigate the masses, buying the pitch forks is much worse than anything written in this PR.... which definitely have never been written by Geoff (possibly the funniest thing i've read in a while)

It is the coolest event on the calendar and certainly a completely new challenge for these kids and Team USA's participation is much appreciated by the organisers, and every person who lined up for the autograph session USA put on.
mxmasta wrote:
Don't confuse them with facts.

Facts? So they all can't keep it on two wheels?
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8/11/2014 6:04am
jemcee wrote:
I think if she used 'had' instead of 'have' and 'couldn't' instead of 'can't' then it would change the whole report 'Jeremy Ryan, Jett Reynolds and...
I think if she used 'had' instead of 'have' and 'couldn't' instead of 'can't' then it would change the whole report

'Jeremy Ryan, Jett Reynolds and Biese Carter all had one thing in common, they couldn’t keep their bikes on two wheels.'

but honestly it doesn't seem as bad to me as it does to others
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8/11/2014 7:08am
To consider that a jab i have hard time saying that was below the belt.. I mean what do you want for them to blow our riders everytime we show up to race there geez i thought it was a bit suttle i mean honestly you guys are slightly ridiculous with these so called "jabs" they take at us.. Alittle play with words and you guys are all whining like little kids.. Get over it.. no wonder everyone hates we cry about everything.
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To consider that a jab i have hard time saying that was below the belt.. I mean what do you want for them to blow our...
To consider that a jab i have hard time saying that was below the belt.. I mean what do you want for them to blow our riders everytime we show up to race there geez i thought it was a bit suttle i mean honestly you guys are slightly ridiculous with these so called "jabs" they take at us.. Alittle play with words and you guys are all whining like little kids.. Get over it.. no wonder everyone hates we cry about everything.
Just the usual American insecurity shown around here. From a lot of the guys it's a regular thing but from Guy B. it's a little disappointing. Sad
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8/11/2014 8:33am
I wouldn't exactly say that,if anything they actually got it handed to them in their classes except maybe the 65cc,no need for the hate either way...
I wouldn't exactly say that,if anything they actually got it handed to them in their classes except maybe the 65cc,no need for the hate either way though:

125cc 11th,16th & 19th.
85cc 7th,16th & 40th
65cc 3rd,4th,5th

They tally results together to make up an overall team victory,well done on that and for making the trip,they seemed to dig it in the previews,all great experience too,
JA946 wrote:
How'd the UK do?
What's it got to do with my reply to MX757 about your boys? Go look them up if you like I wasn't trying to be a...
What's it got to do with my reply to MX757 about your boys? Go look them up if you like

I wasn't trying to be a DB,just telling it

Sorry, it wasn't a slight to you. I'm generally interested, and I did a quick google search and got side tracked.
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8/11/2014 8:38am Edited Date/Time 8/11/2014 8:50am
MXisLIFE wrote:
To consider that a jab i have hard time saying that was below the belt.. I mean what do you want for them to blow our...
To consider that a jab i have hard time saying that was below the belt.. I mean what do you want for them to blow our riders everytime we show up to race there geez i thought it was a bit suttle i mean honestly you guys are slightly ridiculous with these so called "jabs" they take at us.. Alittle play with words and you guys are all whining like little kids.. Get over it.. no wonder everyone hates we cry about everything.
PalerBlue wrote:
Just the usual American insecurity shown around here. From a lot of the guys it's a regular thing but from Guy B. it's a little disappointing...
Just the usual American insecurity shown around here. From a lot of the guys it's a regular thing but from Guy B. it's a little disappointing. Sad
Last time I checked this is an American driven and based MX forum. Don't like what the "Americans" have to say well then don't let the door hit you in the ass.

There have been more Euros complaining on here about Americans than our actual complaints regarding the PR.

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