Mike Alessi doesn't deserve this...

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2/25/2014 1:27pm
I basically wrote the same thing on my Facebook page a couple days ago when I saw a post on Tony Alessi's Facebook page saying, "...
I basically wrote the same thing on my Facebook page a couple days ago when I saw a post on Tony Alessi's Facebook page saying, " I hope your son crashes, breaks his neck and is paralyzed from the eyebrows down! " There is hundreds, if not thousands of comments with hatred towards Alessi throughout the internet right now!

This really has got out of hand and if I was Mike, I would be truly scared for my safety at the next event! All it takes is for one really crazy fan to do something nuts like throw acid in his face, start their motor home on fire or something crazy like that! People are capable of anything these days and the death threats should be taken very seriously. I don't think he should do autographs this weekend and hide from the public until things cool down a little.

Mike's made many bone-head moves in the heat of the battle and paid for them every time. The fans love to hate the Alessi's and now it is at a all time high. But I think it's time to let it go and move on. If he does it again he will be banned for the season anyway so I think he will keep his nose clean for the rest of the season.

It must be a terrible feeling knowing everyone either publicly or secretly hates you. This certainly wasn't what he wanted and I know he regrets it bad! Lets just hope some crazy fan doesn't do anything way worse than what Alessi did!
maybe I'm too naïve, but the same reason these people post shit that terrible on social media is the same reason they won't actually do anything to mike...because they wouldn't have the balls to do it in person. Even on this board I have always tried to remain true to how I am in person. I'm not trying to act like a tough guy or anything, but let's just say that people think twice about spouting off in person once they get put in their place. Unfortunately, that can't happen through social media, which is why I don't have facebook, twitter (anymore, tried for a stint and canned it), instagram, etc.
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2/25/2014 1:31pm
Thanks for posting that DC, hang in there MA and family.
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2/25/2014 1:32pm
I basically wrote the same thing on my Facebook page a couple days ago when I saw a post on Tony Alessi's Facebook page saying, "...
I basically wrote the same thing on my Facebook page a couple days ago when I saw a post on Tony Alessi's Facebook page saying, " I hope your son crashes, breaks his neck and is paralyzed from the eyebrows down! " There is hundreds, if not thousands of comments with hatred towards Alessi throughout the internet right now!

This really has got out of hand and if I was Mike, I would be truly scared for my safety at the next event! All it takes is for one really crazy fan to do something nuts like throw acid in his face, start their motor home on fire or something crazy like that! People are capable of anything these days and the death threats should be taken very seriously. I don't think he should do autographs this weekend and hide from the public until things cool down a little.

Mike's made many bone-head moves in the heat of the battle and paid for them every time. The fans love to hate the Alessi's and now it is at a all time high. But I think it's time to let it go and move on. If he does it again he will be banned for the season anyway so I think he will keep his nose clean for the rest of the season.

It must be a terrible feeling knowing everyone either publicly or secretly hates you. This certainly wasn't what he wanted and I know he regrets it bad! Lets just hope some crazy fan doesn't do anything way worse than what Alessi did!
hvaughn88 wrote:
maybe I'm too naïve, but the same reason these people post shit that terrible on social media is the same reason they won't actually do anything...
maybe I'm too naïve, but the same reason these people post shit that terrible on social media is the same reason they won't actually do anything to mike...because they wouldn't have the balls to do it in person. Even on this board I have always tried to remain true to how I am in person. I'm not trying to act like a tough guy or anything, but let's just say that people think twice about spouting off in person once they get put in their place. Unfortunately, that can't happen through social media, which is why I don't have facebook, twitter (anymore, tried for a stint and canned it), instagram, etc.
as always these nut jobs that post that kind of shit are usually the first in line at the pit party to get an autograph and give a ball wash!

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2/25/2014 1:32pm
Guest.01 wrote:
What Alessi did wasn't racing at all, it was a bitch move. Seriously guy? C'mon..
Grizz wrote:
I disagree.

Edit: If you're going to call Alessi's take out a bitch move, then you have to call Windham's the same Wink
.......and Malcolm Stewarts move on Anderson, MS so much admitted that he did it on purpose and there was no fine, just a "talking to" by the AMA.
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2/25/2014 1:33pm
Lots of sudden innocence around here all of a sudden, but there were comments made on most of the Alessi threads (some were deleted) here that were almost as threatening and hateful as those tweeted there. The reason people say what they do on message boards and social media as a whole is because they don't have the balls to stand up and say it to somebody in person, mainly because they would get the taste slapped out of their mouths.

Maybe Mike made a totally bonehead move, maybe the family has a history of whatever, maybe Mike was slow on the apology and the ownership of the move and quick on the excuse and denial...but wishing him harm and calling him out of his name is never the high road.
2/25/2014 1:34pm
GuyB wrote:
I will say, that guy's Instagram page is a serious homage to broness.
I'm not suprised
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2/25/2014 1:37pm
When anyone wishes physical harm upon another, that's crossing the line...
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2/25/2014 1:38pm
Mikes take out was lame. But this is nothing new to the sport. This happens over and over and over and over. And it will continue to happen. But for some reason certain people LOVE to hate on The Alessi's. If I were Mike I woulda said, "I didn't mean to take him out I meant to break his friggin leg"
(-Ala The Hurricane)
2/25/2014 1:41pm
I agree, it's appalling and actually deeply depressing on a number of levels.

Beyond my posting here I can't stand the social media craze. I refuse to join places like Twitter, Facebook etc; and never will.
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2/25/2014 1:41pm
the over the top hatred is beyond f'd up............but as everyone is saying just the playground now that the whole world is forced to play in..................is what it is...........we didn't make the rules we're all just playin in the sandbox.............

on the other side of it..........lest no one forget "believe the hype"..............Tony is the one responsible for..........oh I'd say about 99.9% of the shit that has been given to Mike............

It is truly truly ashame how f'd up the kid's career has been..............in no small part to the physco shit brought on by his dad........

but as well he is the guy pulling the trigger...........maybe he just needs to take a year off before it is completely too late..........the clock is ticking.....
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2/25/2014 1:43pm
Grizz wrote:
It's the internet. Unfortunately, the majority of motocross fans with the ability to get on the internet also happen to be fucking idiots. Smart phones didn't...
It's the internet. Unfortunately, the majority of motocross fans with the ability to get on the internet also happen to be fucking idiots. Smart phones didn't help.
RedRum666 wrote:
indeed 100%....the social media opens the doors for all the morons to come out and post this crap....Whether you like the move or not, I doubt...
indeed 100%....the social media opens the doors for all the morons to come out and post this crap....Whether you like the move or not, I doubt most TRUE moto fans would post crap like that.... All you have to do is read the comments of a Chad Reed post or Stewart to see what kind of morons are out there....People asking why Stewart isnt on a Kawasaki to will Dean Wilson use Reeds number....there are alot of people out there who dont know and dont care about MX...but they'll comment on it...Sadly to say, I think PINK is one of them....yeah, Alessi is slow
I saw that comment from Pink and thought it a bit weird from someone in her position. She of anyone should know that she is one misstep from a 100k hateful twitter posts.
2/25/2014 1:48pm
Grizz wrote:
I disagree.

Edit: If you're going to call Alessi's take out a bitch move, then you have to call Windham's the same Wink
How are you going to call KW move a bitch move..? Did you not see DV trying to take out KW's front wheel the corner before? Holy shit, don't go full retard, bro. Grinning
2/25/2014 1:55pm
This whole thing has blown WAY out of proportion. At this point I feel sorry for Mike instead of Tickle
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2/25/2014 1:56pm
Is it still OK to call Jeff a dumb ass ?
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2/25/2014 1:57pm
DC,

Well said. Nobody should be subjected to those types of comments.

Interstingly enough, I ran into a study dealing with Internet Trolls that explains alot. An internet troll is generally defined as: "...a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion." I'll quote a part of the study here:

"Internet trolls and video game griefers are just as broken in real life as you've always suspected, according to a new psychology paper by Canadian researchers. It turns out that the same folks who love to disrupt online conversations for the "lulz" are likely to also exhibit some pretty nasty personality traits in general.

Two online studies led by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba established "strong positive associations" between "online commenting frequency, trolling enjoyment, and troll identity, pointing to a common construct underlying the measures," the researchers wrote in an abstract of their paper.

The upshot was that although Internet trolls are a small minority of overall Internet participants, those respondents to the team's surveys who self-identified as enjoying disrupting online communities also scored highly in the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits, the researchers found.

"Trolling correlated positively with sadism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism, using both enjoyment ratings and identity scores," they wrote. Which is to say, the respondents who identified themselves as trolls also indicated that they enjoy making others suffer, lack remorse and empathy, and have no problem with manipulating and lying to people to achieve their ends.

The fourth trait of the Dark Tetrad is narcissism, which was also displayed in buckets by respondents who cited "trolling" as their favorite activity when commenting online, as indicated in the graph at right.

Slate's Chris Mooney, who dissected the study last week, noted that the authors "found that the relationship between sadism and trolling was the strongest, and that indeed, sadists appear to troll because they find it pleasurable."

Indeed, as the abstract notes:

"Of all personality measures, sadism showed the most robust associations with trolling and, importantly, the relationship was specific to trolling behavior. Enjoyment of other online activities, such as chatting and debating, was unrelated to sadism. Thus cyber-trolling appears to be an Internet manifestation of everyday sadism."


Full link to study here.
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2/25/2014 2:00pm
Karma will find the above Bro.
2/25/2014 2:05pm
First off I want to thank DC for truly stepping up to the plate. Humans tend to act like cattle and when DC says enough is enough the stampede naturally comes to a complete stop. On the other side of the coin is FoxSports Commentator Ricky Carmichael who has plenty of followers. I don't think RC's comments were professional and although he's entitled to his opinions as to why Alessi should not have a factory ride, as a commentator he didn't need to fan the fire.
2/25/2014 2:13pm
I totally agree, the backlash on social media and comment sections on websites is absolutely horrid. At MotoXAddicts we had 105 comments on the $4000 fine for Alessi post and we now have just 62, because I had to play GuyB and OCScottie for a day and clean it up. Facebook was even worse. I will NEVER understand what is wrong with some people and why they think because it's social media and the web they can get away with this shit. I don't want the government involved in internet shit (they're already everywhere else), but damn, people have been put in prison for the kinds of threats Mikey's received if the threats were in person.

Jesus, he took a rider out, but the backlash is akin to if he raped Broc's sister. I mean wtf is wrong with people?
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2/25/2014 2:18pm
If Mike showed up at a local race and parked next to that badass he'd cream himself trying to get Mike's autograph, then wear his phone out texting all his friends about how he was parked next to Mike Alessi.
And somebody tell Pink, MA is just fast enough to beat the entire RCH team.
Sadly, social media idiots come in all shapes and income levels.
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2/25/2014 2:26pm
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wow... just sickening what people will say on the internet. you would think having his name and picture as part of his internet persona, he would...
wow...

just sickening what people will say on the internet.

you would think having his name and picture as part of his internet persona, he would have a little common sense before saying that kind of hatred shit.

pathetic is an understatement.
GuyB wrote:
I will say, that guy's Instagram page is a serious homage to broness.
I'm seeing 4-wheelers on this guy's page.
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2/25/2014 2:27pm
Socialmedia is bloodsport.

Its like the old Roman days when the crowd would turn there thumbs down, then scream with excitement as the gladiator gets torn to shreds by the lions.
2/25/2014 2:33pm
After posting I did another run through to make sure I deleted them all and I come across this one. Who says this shit?

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2/25/2014 2:36pm
I'll admit, in the heat of the moment I was pretty upset. I still wouldn't have wished for mike to be in a wheelchair or break his neck. That's just messed up, however if he would have crashed out, I wouldn't have been in tears. I still think it was very dirty and the most blatantly obvious take out I've ever seen. And yes, I did watch every clip posted above. Windhams was bad, but he came into the turn with so much heat and was still on the breaks when DV hit him. He obviously just wanted the lead and was willing to take out DV to get it. Alessi had already completed breaking and then dumped the clutch. Almost all of those take-out above, the rider was doing something to get ahead. Alessi wasn't racing forward, his main goal was clearly to take out Tickle.If he had cut in front of tickle, like reed did to stewart or windham to vulli, then I may have just thought it was dirty, but wouldn't have been too upset. But he was at a 90 degree angle, headed straight at tickle and not at all towards the direction of the track. That said, I don't hate Alessi or wish him harm. It's interesting the amount of hatred people receive from people they don't know for relatively minor things. This reminds me of when Lebron James switched NBA teams and millions boo'd him and many told him they wish he'd die or get hurt. Over switching teams??? The Lebron hatred was even less justified, but I don't think wishing someone harm is ever justified. Well, I take that back; wishing harm on murdurers, terrorists, rapists, etc. is fully justified.
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2/25/2014 2:38pm
The threats on the internet, although ignorant and uncalled for, aren't nearly as serious as what Alessi actually did to Tickle. He can apologize and feel bad and be fined all he wants but it doesn't change the fact that he totally ruined Tickle's night and COULD have ruined his career. If he'd hit him in the knee with the tire instead of the fender it would have been much worse.

It was a blatant take out move. No coming together of lines. Alessi was correct in that it was a very poor decision on his part. I don't think he and Broc are "friends" anymore.

In the end, the comments are stupid and shouldn't be made but they are idle threats that stand little to no chance of taking place. What he'd better be looking out for is Broc Tickle. In every turn, every corner, every whoop section, he'd better be thinking "I wonder where Broc is right now?"

And it's really sad, I have been watching Mike all year and he has really, I mean REALLY, improved his whoop skills. He could have a great year in the end results if he continues to get better and not fade so badly.
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2/25/2014 2:40pm
In regards to the ones above, Windham's was a retaliation, as are most others. The Alessi move was purely a poorly executed take-out. Broc got by him clean and it was totally uncalled for.
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2/25/2014 2:42pm
Grizz wrote:
It's the internet. Unfortunately, the majority of motocross fans with the ability to get on the internet also happen to be fucking idiots. Smart phones didn't...
It's the internet. Unfortunately, the majority of motocross fans with the ability to get on the internet also happen to be fucking idiots. Smart phones didn't help.
GuyB wrote:
"It's the Internet" isn't a license to be completely stupid and inhumane.
No, it's not, but you're not going to stop it either, so it's best just to stay out of trouble.

That's the part they have trouble with.
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2/25/2014 2:44pm
After posting I did another run through to make sure I deleted them all and I come across this one. Who says this shit? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/02/25/46859/s1200_Screen_Shot_2014_02_25_at_2.31.12_PM.jpg[/img]
After posting I did another run through to make sure I deleted them all and I come across this one. Who says this shit?

That's fuckin messed up.

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