1985 strikes back at LL quali

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zookie 6/17/2013 4:49pm
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Too awesome! I will never ever complain about my bikes....ever again.
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mx_563 6/17/2013 4:50pm
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Pretty badass!!!
But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just drop and Wiseco piston kit in a 28 year old bike and race the B class. That thing had to have been gone through. It's kind of hard to believe that it made sense financially to start with such a platform. What's the price difference between an 85 CR and a 96 CR these days?
Hey, whatever. I'm not trying to crap on the parade. Best of luck to the kid. Great story.
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Overdrive 6/17/2013 4:59pm
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mx_563 wrote:
Pretty badass!!! But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just...
Pretty badass!!!
But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just drop and Wiseco piston kit in a 28 year old bike and race the B class. That thing had to have been gone through. It's kind of hard to believe that it made sense financially to start with such a platform. What's the price difference between an 85 CR and a 96 CR these days?
Hey, whatever. I'm not trying to crap on the parade. Best of luck to the kid. Great story.
Parts are cheap, just as the bike had to be cheap. Most people who are good with a wrench could pull that engine apart and replace any worn parts for very little. I would think someone could pick up a bike like that and have it race ready for less than $750 if they did the work themselves.

Im sure newmann would have a better idea on how much it would cost.
White boy on 1 wheel 6/17/2013 5:08pm
6/17/2013 5:08pm
mx_563 wrote:
Pretty badass!!! But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just...
Pretty badass!!!
But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just drop and Wiseco piston kit in a 28 year old bike and race the B class. That thing had to have been gone through. It's kind of hard to believe that it made sense financially to start with such a platform. What's the price difference between an 85 CR and a 96 CR these days?
Hey, whatever. I'm not trying to crap on the parade. Best of luck to the kid. Great story.
People in that situation(and I would know) do not sink it all in at once. Simply because you don't have it at once.
You buy the bike. You ride the bike and think.... This thing could use a new clutch cable. Buy one.
Go ride it again and realize that theres some play in the wheel bearings. Do you just not go ride? No, you ride it and hope to replace them next week.
You pick away at the problems. My 10 year old YZ is due a piston and could use some new sneakers. Didn't stop me from riding it yesterday. You take the money you have and address the issues as they arise.
Lots of people do not have the resources to bring a used bike home and tear it down to the frame. Over the course of a few months you get all the way through the bike.

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louis.bernard.564 6/17/2013 5:15pm
6/17/2013 5:15pm
jerry.robin194 wrote:
Okay guys I got a PayPal set up for anyone who wants to do donations to help me out to get to Lorettas, Here it is...
Okay guys I got a PayPal set up for anyone who wants to do donations to help me out to get to Lorettas, Here it is!
Its under my dads name Daniel Robin
dbdnj@q.com
White boy on 1 wheel wrote:
Dude... you got to take that trusty CR to Loretta's.
I mean you don't HAVE too, but thousands would love to see it!
To race LL with the 1985 would continue to make the buzz, it may even get him more exposure from team managers / sponsors. Sponsors should start from now because that will make another 10 pages on vital !!! Smile

I would love to see pro circuit preparing that bike as Bayle's 89, I have also seen a post recently, from the person who prepares JMB's bike for the Veteran Des Nations, he seems very knowledgeable so I would try to contact him: http://www.vitalmx.com/community/docwob,18920/all .

Last but not least, it is amazing to see the support from the community, love the passion, Good Luck Jerry !
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Josh422 6/17/2013 5:16pm
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DoctorJD wrote:
Okay, great story, but riddle me this: Wouldn't it be just as effective to campaign a later-model 2-stroke? What does a mint 85' CR250 go for...
Okay, great story, but riddle me this: Wouldn't it be just as effective to campaign a later-model 2-stroke? What does a mint 85' CR250 go for these days, vintage guys? I know you can get an early 2000's YZ for around $2000 and I know that parts have got to be MUCH easier to find than for a 1985 CR250. Again, great story, impressive feat, but I can't help but wonder what the real motivation is for riding a 28-year-old bike. Damn, and I'm usually not the buzz-kill.
The same reason this happened: http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Still-think-you-need-that-8-000-bike,1251918

It was fun. People walked by and talked trash/made fun and praised us after the 6 hours was up.

We're doing it again too, honestly the bike ripped. This kid is awesome, I hope he has modern equipment if he goes to be competitive but if he's having fun with it, then ride the piss out of that CR!

His email is jerryrobin194@hotmail.com as it states in the youtube video. Donate him some cash!
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ThePipe 6/17/2013 5:39pm
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Awesome Story! Best one I've heard in a long time
Anybody questioning Parts Availabilty for those things?---> Very easy to find

Looks like Jerrys bike has Cartridge forks That's a HUGE plus compared to the modern bikes.
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mototrader 6/17/2013 5:54pm
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this is alpha as fuck.

i was having a pretty shitty day until i saw this. awesome and inspiring
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APLMAN99 6/17/2013 6:00pm
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ThePipe wrote:
Awesome Story! Best one I've heard in a long time Anybody questioning Parts Availabilty for those things?---> Very easy to find Looks like Jerrys bike has...
Awesome Story! Best one I've heard in a long time
Anybody questioning Parts Availabilty for those things?---> Very easy to find

Looks like Jerrys bike has Cartridge forks That's a HUGE plus compared to the modern bikes.
I think the parts availability deal meant at the track. You can probably get most commonly needed parts for a current bike that day without leaving the track. Doubtful that too many vendors are stocked up on 85 CR parts......
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Mxracer24 6/17/2013 6:04pm
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mx_563 wrote:
Pretty badass!!! But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just...
Pretty badass!!!
But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just drop and Wiseco piston kit in a 28 year old bike and race the B class. That thing had to have been gone through. It's kind of hard to believe that it made sense financially to start with such a platform. What's the price difference between an 85 CR and a 96 CR these days?
Hey, whatever. I'm not trying to crap on the parade. Best of luck to the kid. Great story.
He states in another video he has had the bike for six years and i started seeing him race it late last year, i believe. so it gave him 4-5 years to get it ready. Trust me if you raced at millville you would know he is an awesome kid and unbelievable to watch
vanillaice782 6/17/2013 6:48pm
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Here he is on his Yz?....



And a Honda from last year...

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Mxracer24 6/17/2013 6:54pm
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vanillaice782 wrote:
Here he is on his Yz?.... [img]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/483884_444372565641627_887826955_n.jpg[/img] And a Honda from last year... [img]https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/406986_238150292930523_20134627_n.jpg[/img]
Here he is on his Yz?....



And a Honda from last year...

http://youtu.be/b3pOQW_7VMQ?t=3m39s

Thats not his honda..
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Wes782 6/17/2013 6:56pm
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Guessing that thing blew up or something and that CRF is clearly someone elses. Eitherway no one rides a bike at that level just for fun. After talking to many friends here who still race, he truly is awesome on that CR. Keep it up Jerry, I cant wait to make it to a race to watch!
vanillaice782 6/17/2013 7:02pm
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I'm not saying he's lying or anything like that. It's really cool what he's doing but I would just think before I would fork any of my money over. It's not like he's driving a station wagon cross country to get to LL's. He has to have a decent amount of money to even pay the entry fees at those qualifiers.
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PJ205 6/17/2013 7:04pm
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Theres always gotta be that one person...
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Mxracer24 6/17/2013 7:08pm
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vanillaice782 wrote:
I'm not saying he's lying or anything like that. It's really cool what he's doing but I would just think before I would fork any of...
I'm not saying he's lying or anything like that. It's really cool what he's doing but I would just think before I would fork any of my money over. It's not like he's driving a station wagon cross country to get to LL's. He has to have a decent amount of money to even pay the entry fees at those qualifiers.
His dad helps at the track alot. and Thats why he has a suburban and a small trailer and that's all? this kid is not bull shitting anyone. its not like hes begging for money. people offered and he needs any help he can get. Trust me you go race at millville and you will find out hes the real deal. just trying to show everyone he isnt bsing anyone. ive just wanted that kid to get noticed sense i started racing at millville because he is insane on what he has for bikes
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maxc811 6/17/2013 7:11pm
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reminds me of doug henry in 1987 (nesc) riding 86 cr 125 ...complete clam diggers ,but haulin the mail....any old nesc guys here remember that
KICKERMAN360 6/17/2013 7:14pm
6/17/2013 7:14pm
He said he YZ125 is broken (must be pretty bad if it's cheaper to run the '85 Honda) and the CRF wasn't his. The guy seems very genuine and I admire his commitment to racing. How many racers would run an old bike like that?

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vanillaice782 6/17/2013 7:24pm
6/17/2013 7:24pm
I still think it's awesome but I'm just saying I wouldn't give him any money. If he races motocross on that level he doesn't need my money as much as I do. It's a double edged sword too because people want to help him out to see him race the old bike but hopefully someone doesn't offer him a better bike to ride! Unless it's one of RJ's old factory bikes of course.
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mx_563 6/17/2013 8:23pm
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Mxracer24 wrote:
He states in another video he has had the bike for six years and i started seeing him race it late last year, i believe. so...
He states in another video he has had the bike for six years and i started seeing him race it late last year, i believe. so it gave him 4-5 years to get it ready. Trust me if you raced at millville you would know he is an awesome kid and unbelievable to watch
No doubt! I'm not questioning his awesomeness. I would love to watch him in person. Please do not misinterpret my post as being some sort of attack. I was speaking from my own personal experiences trying to keep old bikes going. Believe me, I'm by no means Mr. New-Bike-Every-Year. I know all about "amortizing" the upgrades and repairs. But a bike that old, if raced competitively, would have at some point needed all new bearings in the bottom end, possibly new shift forks, a new crank and rod, seals, etc. You don't crack open your cases every 6 months to install a new bearing or two. You do the whole thing at once. I've done it and I know it adds up quick. I'm not attacking this kid. I praise him for what he is able to accomplish. He deserves accolades. I'm just asking not to be crucified for publicly wondering if maybe there is a tiny little bit of clever marketing going on here. I'm just asking the question, not accusing, and not taking away from the accomplishments of this gifted young man.
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APLMAN99 6/17/2013 8:27pm
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mx_563 wrote:
Pretty badass!!! But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just...
Pretty badass!!!
But taking a bike that old and making it reliable and race ready again had to cost a lot of money. You don't just drop and Wiseco piston kit in a 28 year old bike and race the B class. That thing had to have been gone through. It's kind of hard to believe that it made sense financially to start with such a platform. What's the price difference between an 85 CR and a 96 CR these days?
Hey, whatever. I'm not trying to crap on the parade. Best of luck to the kid. Great story.
You probably could drop in a new piston and rings, grease the linkage, and put on new tires and it'd be raceable. Shorter motos for the am races would certainly help, of course. And if that happens to be the bike sitting in your garage when your main bike craps out, the decision is most of the way made at that point. And it looks like it was a decent decision by the young man. Whether or not he gets in that class as an alternate or not, he's accomplished something that most of the qualifiers wouldn't have even dreamed they could do. Whatever happens, he'll always be the guy who won that moto on a 28yo bike. That's the shiite, no other way to get around it.
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bent valves 6/17/2013 8:35pm
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flarider wrote:
That's cool and all, but technically, is that bike legal for LL's? It has to meet homologation rules and on older bikes, I believe that includes...
That's cool and all, but technically, is that bike legal for LL's?
It has to meet homologation rules and on older bikes, I believe that includes something like a 5-year exclusion rule, where a bike is no longer homologated after 5-years, basically because you can't get them any longer and they're not readily available...there isn't 500 units in showrooms for sale.

Again, I think it's bad ass what the kid did, but I do not think the guy can legally race that bike
It's amateur racing and that's all he has. Who will protest him?
AHRMA361 6/17/2013 8:35pm
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I still think it's awesome but I'm just saying I wouldn't give him any money. If he races motocross on that level he doesn't need my...
I still think it's awesome but I'm just saying I wouldn't give him any money. If he races motocross on that level he doesn't need my money as much as I do. It's a double edged sword too because people want to help him out to see him race the old bike but hopefully someone doesn't offer him a better bike to ride! Unless it's one of RJ's old factory bikes of course.
...yeah we got it the first time, so sit on your wallet....nobody cares. And when did this turn into a comparison to you and your needs?
did you not qualify this year or something?? You don't know shit about him and his financial situation, neither do I. So don't be that Dbag that makes assumptions and pass it off as fact......

If it IS a big marketing ploy....so what, it worked! If NOT, major accomplishment to get this far in amateur racing with a bike that is 28 years old and breaks a lot of stereotypes about what it "takes" to get to the big show in the Am's........
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Falcon 6/17/2013 8:35pm
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GuyB wrote:
Anyone who protests him riding that bike needs to get a serious attitude adjustment.
shiftonephoto wrote:
Quote for the truth!
Oh, that person would get an attitude adjustment alright.... for the total amount of the protest fee, which would go to Jerry.
GeorgiePorgie 6/17/2013 8:37pm
6/17/2013 8:37pm
Rock river usually throws out some cheap deals! So if he's broke...he's definitely getting bikes from the right shop. Mega cheap!

Still, 85 cr 250.....wow. And If people want to send him money that's there prerogative!
madmaxperformance 6/17/2013 9:06pm
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Man, I wish I was close to there. Gimme that engine. New fresh crank, piston, rings, clutch. Port job that just focuses on port area with very small changes to port timing, a touch more compression with a head cut and mod... Bore the carb a mm... That thing would be a reliable CANNON. Go over the whole bike, make sure everything is tight and fresh, and then watch the kid kick arse on a 28 year old bike. Man this is cool. I cant believe how well he rides it. Enzo must have done a great job on the suspension, because you can see its not nearly as soft and wallowy as they were stock. Frikkin cool.
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GuyB 6/17/2013 9:26pm
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PJ205 wrote:
Theres always gotta be that one person...
Yeah. It's cool to see that people want to help, and puts a smile on my face to see people get behind it, all on their own.

Then there are people who don't know when to bite their tongues.
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burn1986 6/17/2013 9:39pm
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Sometimes people make too much out of stuff. He shows up on his trusty steed and does good. People get excited and want to show it by helping him out. It is an awesome story, though!

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