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kongols wrote:
Homework? I guess it`s kind of hard with out practice bike.
peelout wrote:
was it Goerke's old bike? if so, it needed a new radiator...

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and a wash job..
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Switch 6/15/2011 2:06pm
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Switch wrote:
RV didn't seem to have much trouble dialing in the bike in those 2 weeks..
kongols wrote:
In Florida, while his team was in Cali.
NV825 wrote:
Obviously it wasn't his bike that needed massive overhaul, but rather the time off with the benefit of having extra training and relaxation time is what...
Obviously it wasn't his bike that needed massive overhaul, but rather the time off with the benefit of having extra training and relaxation time is what got him a win this last weekend. But that would be too obvious.
You're right, he probably lied when he said he felt fine in Texas but his bike was lacking on national television. It is pretty common for a guy to throw his team under the bus in an interview. He just needed "relaxation time" to get winning again... glad you cleared that up.. I must have missed the "obvious". fuckin dork
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What are, a bunch of MORONS.. do you really think Yamaha was not stepping in a giving them support, the frenchy had what he needed he just didn't want to wok it out, i'm sure he will end up on a Kawasaki team at some point where he belongs, he in fact wasted a bunch off poeples time and efforts... Back away from the crack pipe...Motoconcepts is a great team.. enough said...

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CP thinks he can just step right back in and start winning again, and then when it doesn't happen, he can't understand why, starts blaming little things and then wants out of his contract altogether. MCY needs to sue him. I know they have too much character for that, but that is how you deal with someone like that.
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knobby101 6/15/2011 3:22pm
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CP thinks he can just step right back in and start winning again, and then when it doesn't happen, he can't understand why, starts blaming little...
CP thinks he can just step right back in and start winning again, and then when it doesn't happen, he can't understand why, starts blaming little things and then wants out of his contract altogether. MCY needs to sue him. I know they have too much character for that, but that is how you deal with someone like that.
Basically he dropped his french army rifle and ran.. no pun on DV.. love ya man!
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there are always three sides to every story. and in this situation, thers CP's side.. thers MCY side.. and the truth.. and the only ones who will ever know the truth is CP and MCY..

and i dont care if DV comes on here and "sets the record straight".. cause remember, he works for MCY.. he will not give details that would make his team look bad.. so lets stop speculating and start hoping that CP makes a return to his wining ways.. along with Jlaw..... Evil
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zippy895 6/15/2011 3:34pm
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cp is prob. still injured someway internally enough that he is unstable in his decision to race at a professional level.
he wants to race and be a racer, but preexisting injury of somesort is not allowing him to.
my 2 cents.
motoarmageddon 6/15/2011 3:39pm
6/15/2011 3:39pm
I hope that CP get s a kx450 and whips some booty in the GP's. There is the chance that CP really hates the bike. I know everybody is using Millsaps as an example of why that cant be true(Millsaps is riding the YZ well). But everone believes Reed, when he's saying he didnt get along with the KX450, yet RV can beat Reed on a KX450. So I hope to see Pourcel get on CLS Kaw or some KX team. I really think he'll do better on a KX-F
motoarmageddon 6/15/2011 3:41pm
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jamma10 wrote:
Not to take anything away from how serious their injuries were - especially Craigs, but how many current Professional riders have spent 6 months paralysed from...
Not to take anything away from how serious their injuries were - especially Craigs, but how many current Professional riders have spent 6 months paralysed from the waist down, sitting in a wheel chair, shitting into a bag and not knowing if they would ever walk again?

I know the injury card gets played alot, but Pourcel is one of the few people who has experienced both ends of the spectrum, Its probably the reason he seems so impassive where most trivial things are concerned and so determined to make sure racing is worth his while.
That was real talk jamma10
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mccread wrote:
I still can't believe he didn't have a practice bike in Florida... I remember Suzuki going to Reeds house to test. Surely CP should have had...
I still can't believe he didn't have a practice bike in Florida... I remember Suzuki going to Reeds house to test. Surely CP should have had a yamaha at his house with a basic set from he signed for the bike.. and had a bike in Cali too.
all he had to do is buy one if he wanted one!
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KAWboy14 6/15/2011 3:48pm
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zippy895 wrote:
cp is prob. still injured someway internally enough that he is unstable in his decision to race at a professional level. he wants to race and...
cp is prob. still injured someway internally enough that he is unstable in his decision to race at a professional level.
he wants to race and be a racer, but preexisting injury of somesort is not allowing him to.
my 2 cents.
your right.....that kid would not be acting this way if everything was fine with him!
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TMV 6/15/2011 3:58pm
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mccread wrote:
exactly... CP said this on facebook... A apris comme vous quil rouler plus pour…, mais sans moto en floride pour sentrainer sa change pa grand chose...
exactly...

CP said this on facebook...

A apris comme vous quil rouler plus pour…, mais sans moto en floride pour sentrainer sa change pa grand chose.

Something about not have a bike to ride in florida? maybe a French guy could translate more accurately lol
"(Christophe) has just learnt as you that he doesn't ride for... any more but without a training bike in Florida, it doesn't change anything"
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Castillo, then. But what state is that in? The same one his suspension company was, right?
Sondy132001 wrote:
Yes but about 5 hours away.

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5 hours is a lot easier to deal with than 35 hours.
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mccread wrote:
I still can't believe he didn't have a practice bike in Florida... I remember Suzuki going to Reeds house to test. Surely CP should have had...
I still can't believe he didn't have a practice bike in Florida... I remember Suzuki going to Reeds house to test. Surely CP should have had a yamaha at his house with a basic set from he signed for the bike.. and had a bike in Cali too.
KAWboy14 wrote:
all he had to do is buy one if he wanted one!
God forbid him pay for a bike LMFAO!
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zippy895 wrote:
cp is prob. still injured someway internally enough that he is unstable in his decision to race at a professional level. he wants to race and...
cp is prob. still injured someway internally enough that he is unstable in his decision to race at a professional level.
he wants to race and be a racer, but preexisting injury of somesort is not allowing him to.
my 2 cents.
Yeah, his uterus is bruised. Who'd want to race with an internal injury like that?
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Rudeboy119 6/15/2011 4:58pm
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how do you go from a probobale 2x national champ, to no one wanting to hire you in 9 months. Amazing, not 1 factory will touch him now CP377 is a QUITTER
UpTiTe 6/15/2011 5:35pm
6/15/2011 5:35pm
kongols wrote:
Let me speculate a little bit. Pourcel was in Cali testing for four weeks and got nowhere. He had a deal that he`s going to Florida...
Let me speculate a little bit. Pourcel was in Cali testing for four weeks and got nowhere. He had a deal that he`s going to Florida after Freestone. As we all know his father Roger quit his job as a team manager and came to USA to help Cris. I would assume he was in Florida with Cris waiting for practice bike to try and get him comfortable on it. I think he knows more than any other person on this Earth what Cris wants and expects out of bike. Well, bike never came. I still think the truth is somewhere between CP and DV, something happened between those two at Freestone that it got as shitty as it did.
I will just say that your speculation is way off.

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kiwifan 6/15/2011 6:10pm
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motoarmageddon wrote:
I hope that CP get s a kx450 and whips some booty in the GP's. There is the chance that CP really hates the bike. I...
I hope that CP get s a kx450 and whips some booty in the GP's. There is the chance that CP really hates the bike. I know everybody is using Millsaps as an example of why that cant be true(Millsaps is riding the YZ well). But everone believes Reed, when he's saying he didnt get along with the KX450, yet RV can beat Reed on a KX450. So I hope to see Pourcel get on CLS Kaw or some KX team. I really think he'll do better on a KX-F
getting him a ride on a KX450 is NOT going to stop his bullshit way of dealing with his team and sponsors (and fans), dont defend a guy who is doing everhthing to stop people giving him a ride...if he thinks he has the talent to beat everyone he needs to prove it...running away from a team is not helping him prove that at all.

If he is so scared to ride at over 100% he shouldnt be riding at all, he might win a GP or two maybe but he isnt going to win a title with that attitude...period
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burnside 6/15/2011 6:45pm
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As a bias Euro sitting in a Starbucks in LA, I just hope he comes back swinging and pulls off a Reed. Then he'll look like some kind of genius. Eitherways, he's dug himself a pretty deep hole .
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One thing got to poorcel...fear. No other explanation or way around it. Smart enough to at least know when he needs to quit. Quit bagging on him...not many dirt bikers are smart enough to pour piss out of their boots
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The outdoor nationals don't need CP or Flubba Stewart. The racing is just fine with out their primma donna azzs. Let them go to Florida and ride jet skis and talk about how many championships they "could" have won.
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dehner47 wrote:
there are always three sides to every story. and in this situation, thers CP's side.. thers MCY side.. and the truth.. and the only ones who...
there are always three sides to every story. and in this situation, thers CP's side.. thers MCY side.. and the truth.. and the only ones who will ever know the truth is CP and MCY..

and i dont care if DV comes on here and "sets the record straight".. cause remember, he works for MCY.. he will not give details that would make his team look bad.. so lets stop speculating and start hoping that CP makes a return to his wining ways.. along with Jlaw..... Evil
Thats BS sometimes there is only one side to a story,
that there is often shades of gray doesn't mean
there are no black or white situations.

Eg: your driving along, someone car jacks you, so it was partly your fault? for what, just being there? having a nice car?

An extreme eg but it disproves your 3 sides to story quite easily
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thordude 6/15/2011 8:21pm
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TWicks wrote:
Is CP the first rider to join the MotoConcepts team and then leave on less than stellar terms before the season was over?
Isn't there always drama under this tent? History repeats itself.
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TWicks wrote:
Is CP the first rider to join the MotoConcepts team and then leave on less than stellar terms before the season was over?
thordude wrote:
Isn't there always drama under this tent? History repeats itself.
Dan Reardon..
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jamma10 wrote:
Not to take anything away from how serious their injuries were - especially Craigs, but how many current Professional riders have spent 6 months paralysed from...
Not to take anything away from how serious their injuries were - especially Craigs, but how many current Professional riders have spent 6 months paralysed from the waist down, sitting in a wheel chair, shitting into a bag and not knowing if they would ever walk again?

I know the injury card gets played alot, but Pourcel is one of the few people who has experienced both ends of the spectrum, Its probably the reason he seems so impassive where most trivial things are concerned and so determined to make sure racing is worth his while.
motoarmageddon wrote:
That was real talk jamma10
Totally, felt like an adult spoke up at kindergarden.

Sadly some people here don't have the will to see the shades of gray, and for me this is a perfect example of how the brain works or maybe how the brain works with flaws.

When info is lacking emotions tend to switch over to a fixed mode as I suggest is seen here in the negative post towards CP. It's just because the brain really wants to be right since doubt makes us insecure.

Imagine a caveman seeing lightning and hearing thunder, he knows shit but still fabricates "truths" as in a lightning God that might need some offering to calm down etc Caveman make "sense" out of it and can carry on with his stuff.

But of course some here are not victim of this at all, they really know the truth! Wink
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gharmon 6/15/2011 9:24pm
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RonSkj wrote:
Not one of you punters have seen a copy of the contract. We hear all the time about riders getting screwed and maybe CP is not...
Not one of you punters have seen a copy of the contract. We hear all the time about riders getting screwed and maybe CP is not going to take the bs that so many other riders have had to deal with. IF he had an agreement, that said he would go to Florida after freestone and Moto Conceppt was suppose to have a bike there for him and bike was not there. Well then... Who broke the contract??

And I don't see it, (as gharmon ) Said.. That CP is an employee that should do as his employer says. But rather that CP is the other side of a mutual agreement. Only when the contract is made public, should the public express opinion about who was right or wrong.
After I posted that I got to thinking about the contract thing. See, I've never worked a job that has a contract involved. I have just always been someone else's whore! For any of us to really be right on this issue we would really need to see the black and white (contract).

I guess I was thinking like "if I had that chance I would do anything needed to get it right". The fact I'm a nobody just jumped out. The kid living the dream came out in me. To pourcel it's a job with a contract. So if it said he was supposed to go home then it was his right and they are the f#ck ups but if it didn't, then you know how i feel l about that. But who know without seeing the contract.

Could one of you insiders please produce this piece of paper so we can get put all these threads to bed.
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CRF107 6/15/2011 10:52pm
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I'm sure the contract didn't have a set calendar of when CP would be where. They may have had a verbal agreement, but if the work isn't done you don't go home. And if all he was worried about was seat time, then that tells you that the problem wasn't the bike.

I don't understand everyones pipe dream that he's going to go over to the GP's and suddenly be magic... the same guys that insist that the GP's are tougher and the talent is deeper? The guy didn't last 20 minutes here before pulling off...
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kiwifan 6/15/2011 10:59pm
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BlueThumper wrote:
The outdoor nationals don't need CP or Flubba Stewart. The racing is just fine with out their primma donna azzs. Let them go to Florida and...
The outdoor nationals don't need CP or Flubba Stewart. The racing is just fine with out their primma donna azzs. Let them go to Florida and ride jet skis and talk about how many championships they "could" have won.
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jamma10 6/16/2011 1:07am
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CRF107 wrote:
I'm sure the contract didn't have a set calendar of when CP would be where. They may have had a verbal agreement, but if the work...
I'm sure the contract didn't have a set calendar of when CP would be where. They may have had a verbal agreement, but if the work isn't done you don't go home. And if all he was worried about was seat time, then that tells you that the problem wasn't the bike.

I don't understand everyones pipe dream that he's going to go over to the GP's and suddenly be magic... the same guys that insist that the GP's are tougher and the talent is deeper? The guy didn't last 20 minutes here before pulling off...
I will be very surprised to see him return to the GP's... unless he really has burned all his bridges over here now.

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