Maduro capture

cheesehead420 wrote:

What’s at stake is unfettered growth and access to the natural resources that are required for unfettered growth. If GDP can’t grow than we can’t service...

What’s at stake is unfettered growth and access to the natural resources that are required for unfettered growth. If GDP can’t grow than we can’t service our debts,  and if we can’t service our debts we lose big time. Its debt based currency in action. 

This is just what modern day war looks like. It’s fought with dimes and dollars. Supply chains and world economies are too dependent on each other for real war. Economic destruction of China equates to economic destruction of America and vice versa. 

China owns billions and billions of dollars worth of American debt and American companies do billions and billions of dollars worth of business with China and need their production capacity. We’re reliant on each other. Yet still we want to dominate each other, but we don’t want to destroy or even destabilize each other past a certain point. It’s an almost maddening dynamic. 

You underestimate the religious aspect to money and the belief that the power it conveys holds sway over all else. 

We truly have no other option but to proceed without moral considerations otherwise we are writing our own death warrant. It’s is or them, kill or be killed. 

Stable state economics is flat out not possible within our current social construct. If you want moral stability and economic sustainability then you need to radicalize. Jesus was an anarchist. 

 The only principle is that the principle must gain, month after month and year after year. The idea that profits must exceed profits from years past is necessitated within the framework of debt based currency. 

byke wrote:

I just completely disagree with the foundation of all that, because I think that being a monster is far worse than death. I think it would...

I just completely disagree with the foundation of all that, because I think that being a monster is far worse than death. I think it would have been much better for German soldiers to die by their own hand, than to become Nazi's and then be killed. The end result is that they're dead either way, but only one death is honorable and would have been reflected on positively by future generations. It reads like being waaaaaaay too eager to abandon morality, like looking for an excuse and all someone had to do is wave some cash (cash that we'll never see personally) and instill a little fear and poof it's gone. 

Now, to be fair, I think being open to abandoning morality has a very strong 1:1 with comfort, and me feeling far from abandoning morality might come from a position of comfort. Anyone that's desperate, is far more likely to abandon morality. My morality has never truly been tested. I've never had to live under an overpass, I've never been to prison, and I've never been unable to afford food. I'd like to think that I'd hold strong under such pressure, but I can't say for sure and history often says otherwise. 

cheesehead420 wrote:

I also completely disagree with the whole philosophical premise, or metaphysical assumptions which underly and define our entire modern world view. It’s completely suicidal and if...

I also completely disagree with the whole philosophical premise, or metaphysical assumptions which underly and define our entire modern world view. It’s completely suicidal and if things aren’t drastically changed on a global level future generations will certainly suffer the consequences of our infantile and selfish actions. 

But the very reluctant pragmatist in me admits that for the most part blackdieselbomber is not wrong. If we don’t dominate China, then China dominates us. And I guess I’d rather have my future circumstances dictated by the devil I know.   Pick your poison.  The old proverb is “Better the devil you know than the devil you don't“.

R66 wrote:

I don’t recall making fun of them  

I don’t recall making fun of them  

soggy wrote:

Sure yea like a fart or something will always be funny. Making fun of how people dress or appear is insecure adolescent behavior. 

Chance1216 wrote:

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. Im pushing 50. Growing up...

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. 

Im pushing 50. Growing up is the worst thing we could do. 
 

soggy wrote:

Little help, I don’t know what tank top ‘powder’ means?

soggy wrote:

Imagine being 60 years old and making fun of how people look 😂. Most people left that in junior high. 

Spoonguy wrote:

I don't know, most things I thought were funny as a child I still think are funny. Lighten up, be able to make fun of yourself...

I don't know, most things I thought were funny as a child I still think are funny. Lighten up, be able to make fun of yourself too, it's just a joke after all.

soggy wrote:

Sure yea like a fart or something will always be funny. Making fun of how people dress or appear is insecure adolescent behavior. 

Chance1216 wrote:

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. Im pushing 50. Growing up...

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. 

Im pushing 50. Growing up is the worst thing we could do. 
 

soggy wrote:

Little help, I don’t know what tank top ‘powder’ means?

Chance1216 wrote:

I was referencing a character from a movie named Powder. My daughter’s pasty ass boyfriend was wearing a tank top at the time. Powder:

I was referencing a character from a movie named Powder. 

My daughter’s pasty ass boyfriend was wearing a tank top at the time. 

Powder:

byke wrote:

Are you able to explain how, since the rest of the entire world has been in second place for a century, how they're able to exist...

Are you able to explain how, since the rest of the entire world has been in second place for a century, how they're able to exist? If we die by not being in first place, how has everyone else survived when they are not in first place? 

Chance1216 wrote:

I was referencing a character from a movie named Powder. My daughter’s pasty ass boyfriend was wearing a tank top at the time. Powder:

I was referencing a character from a movie named Powder. 

My daughter’s pasty ass boyfriend was wearing a tank top at the time. 

Powder:

byke wrote:

Are you able to explain how, since the rest of the entire world has been in second place for a century, how they're able to exist...

Are you able to explain how, since the rest of the entire world has been in second place for a century, how they're able to exist? If we die by not being in first place, how has everyone else survived when they are not in first place? 

cheesehead420 wrote:

They did it by surviving when we were thriving. They survived under the domination of western culture and ideals. Their survival under these circumstances provided the conditions...

They did it by surviving when we were thriving. 

They survived under the domination of western culture and ideals. Their survival under these circumstances provided the conditions in which blossomed a contempt and loathing for America which has served as the bastion on western culture. They survived yes, but it was/is demeaning and quite undignified, especially in the face of tradition. 

It’s no wonder the cultural and religious fundamentalists of Russia/china/the Islamic world hate our guts. We’ve been over here living fat of their labor and resources since the end of WW2. Skimming the cream off the top and letting them fight it out for the scraps . 

They survived it, but they feel we’ve done indignities to them, and now they want their turn at the head of the table. 

R66 wrote:

I don’t recall making fun of them  

I don’t recall making fun of them  

El_Rayo wrote:

Just come out already man 

LoudLove wrote:

Wouldn’t we prefer detente with China over domination?  Primary because there is no way to dominate a country of that size and capability. We may not...

Wouldn’t we prefer detente with China over domination?  Primary because there is no way to dominate a country of that size and capability. We may not like some of their actions, but our countries are so intertwined that one cannot seize a significant advantage over the other. 

LoudLove wrote:

Wouldn’t we prefer detente with China over domination?  Primary because there is no way to dominate a country of that size and capability. We may not...

Wouldn’t we prefer detente with China over domination?  Primary because there is no way to dominate a country of that size and capability. We may not like some of their actions, but our countries are so intertwined that one cannot seize a significant advantage over the other. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Do you think we would benefit by not being so dependent on Chinese imports? 

soggy wrote:

Sure yea like a fart or something will always be funny. Making fun of how people dress or appear is insecure adolescent behavior. 

Chance1216 wrote:

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. Im pushing 50. Growing up...

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. 

Im pushing 50. Growing up is the worst thing we could do. 
 

LoudLove wrote:

Wouldn’t we prefer detente with China over domination?  Primary because there is no way to dominate a country of that size and capability. We may not...

Wouldn’t we prefer detente with China over domination?  Primary because there is no way to dominate a country of that size and capability. We may not like some of their actions, but our countries are so intertwined that one cannot seize a significant advantage over the other. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Do you think we would benefit by not being so dependent on Chinese imports? 

R66 wrote:

I don’t recall making fun of them  

I don’t recall making fun of them  

El_Rayo wrote:

Just come out already man 

R66 wrote:

These are your people, not mine. I just like reminding people what the democrats would be continuing had they won the last election and what they...

These are your people, not mine. I just like reminding people what the democrats would be continuing had they won the last election and what they will do if allowed to take that office again. Please vote Republican.
 

byke wrote:

One of the worst aspects (imo) about becoming dependent on other countries, especially the questionable ones, is that you're setting yourself up for your own corruption...

One of the worst aspects (imo) about becoming dependent on other countries, especially the questionable ones, is that you're setting yourself up for your own corruption down the road. Someday that other country is going to do something terrible and you're going to be there to fund it, because you're not going to have the nads to cut the cord since it will cause discomfort to your own people. Smaller countries don't have a choice, but a country this big doesn't need anyone. And if you can believe it, we actually bought soybeans from Russia last year. Other stuff too, but soybeans is hilarious (not really).

Chance1216 wrote:

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. Im pushing 50. Growing up...

Just yesterday, I told my daughter’s boyfriend, get rid of that tank top “Powder”. Put a tee shirt on. That shits embarrassing. 

Im pushing 50. Growing up is the worst thing we could do. 
 

soggy wrote:

Little help, I don’t know what tank top ‘powder’ means?

Chance1216 wrote:

I was referencing a character from a movie named Powder. My daughter’s pasty ass boyfriend was wearing a tank top at the time. Powder:

I was referencing a character from a movie named Powder. 

My daughter’s pasty ass boyfriend was wearing a tank top at the time. 

Powder:

byke wrote:

One of the worst aspects (imo) about becoming dependent on other countries, especially the questionable ones, is that you're setting yourself up for your own corruption...

One of the worst aspects (imo) about becoming dependent on other countries, especially the questionable ones, is that you're setting yourself up for your own corruption down the road. Someday that other country is going to do something terrible and you're going to be there to fund it, because you're not going to have the nads to cut the cord since it will cause discomfort to your own people. Smaller countries don't have a choice, but a country this big doesn't need anyone. And if you can believe it, we actually bought soybeans from Russia last year. Other stuff too, but soybeans is hilarious (not really).

Dudley wrote:

'Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations entangling alliances with none.' - Thomas Jefferson 

byke wrote:

One of the worst aspects (imo) about becoming dependent on other countries, especially the questionable ones, is that you're setting yourself up for your own corruption...

One of the worst aspects (imo) about becoming dependent on other countries, especially the questionable ones, is that you're setting yourself up for your own corruption down the road. Someday that other country is going to do something terrible and you're going to be there to fund it, because you're not going to have the nads to cut the cord since it will cause discomfort to your own people. Smaller countries don't have a choice, but a country this big doesn't need anyone. And if you can believe it, we actually bought soybeans from Russia last year. Other stuff too, but soybeans is hilarious (not really).

Dudley wrote:

'Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations entangling alliances with none.' - Thomas Jefferson 

byke wrote:

That's a nice quote and I put more trust in his education and experience over my own. At the same time, those words came from a...

That's a nice quote and I put more trust in his education and experience over my own. At the same time, those words came from a greater place of integrity than we have today, so I suspect they'd have had the will to suffer through some discomfort and cut some cords. Us today on the other hand, we're more like.....give us injection molded Chinese garbage or give us death!

El_Rayo wrote:

Just come out already man 

R66 wrote:

These are your people, not mine. I just like reminding people what the democrats would be continuing had they won the last election and what they...

These are your people, not mine. I just like reminding people what the democrats would be continuing had they won the last election and what they will do if allowed to take that office again. Please vote Republican.
 

El_Rayo wrote:

haha, what makes you think these are my people? You know nothing about me. 

 

R66 wrote:

These are your people, not mine. I just like reminding people what the democrats would be continuing had they won the last election and what they...

These are your people, not mine. I just like reminding people what the democrats would be continuing had they won the last election and what they will do if allowed to take that office again. Please vote Republican.
 

El_Rayo wrote:

haha, what makes you think these are my people? You know nothing about me. 

 

R66 wrote:

All I know is every time I post those memes, you come out of the wood work. Triggers you I guess. Have a great day!

soggy wrote:

Is it a coincidence that Grindr servers crash around every Republican convention and R66 has a bunch of LBGTQ memes in his spank bank folder? It’s...

Is it a coincidence that Grindr servers crash around every Republican convention and R66 has a bunch of LBGTQ memes in his spank bank folder? It’s ok dude you can love whoever you want. 

soggy wrote:

Is it a coincidence that Grindr servers crash around every Republican convention and R66 has a bunch of LBGTQ memes in his spank bank folder? It’s...

Is it a coincidence that Grindr servers crash around every Republican convention and R66 has a bunch of LBGTQ memes in his spank bank folder? It’s ok dude you can love whoever you want. 

R66 wrote:

soggy wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury I rest my case.

Chance1216 wrote:

byke wrote:

Looks like AI slop, but does the competition aspect matter? What exactly is the top level principle to support it.....when someone you're competing with may do...

Looks like AI slop, but does the competition aspect matter? What exactly is the top level principle to support it.....when someone you're competing with may do something better than you, that it's okay to reduce morality until you find a solution? And that a criminal first place is better than a moral second place? How does this fit with wanting America to be more merit based? 

Do you realize how many verses there are in the bible that surround cheating even in the non-marital sense? As best I can tell, the big picture is ten times worse in every aspect of what it means to be an American, or a Christian, or pretty much anything we hold sacred. The whole "win at any cost" thing is for the Gordon Gekko's out there, which.....holy shit now that I'm saying it, it makes perfect sense. What doesn't make sense, is how the people in this country fell in love with it. 

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Just like the guy in the video said, "they're (you) are missing the point".  I'm not expecting everyone to understand...this is not a playground, it's a...

Just like the guy in the video said, "they're (you) are missing the point".  I'm not expecting everyone to understand...this is not a playground, it's a battlefield.  Some of you are just too sheltered to see it, or choose to look the other way.

People like you may not be willing to fight for their freedom or territory, but there's a lot of us who are all for it.

LoudLove wrote:

Define “fight”.