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Its the old experiment. If you take a jar of red ants and a jar of black ants and put them in the same jar they get along, if you shake the jar they will fight each other to death. The question is Who is shaking the jar? That sums up what is going on in this country. The politicians on each side are shaking the jar and we are all fighting each other.
Education/college is a good example of how they polarize us. The things that are taught, how they are taught, and what is ignored.
Not sure what triggered this, but if you feel demeaned because someone else chose different educational pathways, that’s your own doing, not mine. I don’t think I’ve ever insinuated that you were less intelligent or ‘beneath’ me and/or my experiences.
If you believe that I have said that, then I apologize for whatever you interpreted as that. I definitely haven’t intended to, so perhaps it is a little bit of a projection on your part?
“They don’t understand how things really work in life”
Do you understand when you make statements like that, you lose all credibility with regards to the discussion at hand?
Not a single one of you have told me how the GOP and Donald J Trump will tackle any of the issues that I care about.
I care about the poor, the homeless AND the wealthy, well off people too (I am one of them. Why wouldn’t I care about myself and how well the demographics I am in, is doing). I just think the best way to help our country is from the bottom up, not the top down. The rich are being coddled, while telling the poor to pull them selves up by their bootstraps. Unlike the Democrats, the GOP have not come up with anything to address my concerns… in fact they are the ones creating my concerns. Like many vital members, the GOP are just throwing bombs, bashing the other side and saying no to everything, but not coming up with any ideas of their own. When good legislation comes across their table, they won’t even let it come to a vote. At least they ditched Marjorie Taylor Greene from the freedom caucus… so there’s that…
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People who still believe the Democratic party "cares" about the poor believe rhetoric and campaign promises not the facts that history displays. To both parties in government, the population is the governed, or a commodity. To be used to solidify their power and control. "Care" has nothing to do with. As LBJ stated many times programs for the poor are about appeasement, not opportunity.
Wow, a true believer. The rare someone that takes the narrative being pushed by CNN and MSNBC at 100% face value.
No concern about the cost of shelter or necessities, but deeply concerned that there's unlimited provided government abortions. That's real "compassion".
Why are people fleeing from all of that compassion?
And people voting with their feet is what real voting looks like. It can't be "bumped" in the early morning when it's not going the direction that it's supposed to:
When this first happend. I put a post out that on FB Trump was down votes to Biden and suddenly gained 100k overnight votes to Biden 10k. ( don't remebr how many votes it really was.) Man my lib friends went into an uproar. Russia Russia Russia he's a dictator on and on and on. When I made a correction that it was the other way around. Fuckin crickets. That's the thing about liberals and rinos. By hook or by crook they don't care they stick together for what ever the cause, goal or ideology is. Something conservatives don't do. Anyone on social media when something crazy happens if you can get on it quick enough you will see this time after time. Flip it to the opposite party/ideology and watch the different reactions. It's scary.
I think a fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals look to the government to solve all the problems they see in the world…and conservatives recognize that the government is the cause of (or at least contributes to) those problems and want the government to get out of the way and let the greatest asset in this country (the American citizens) solve the problems of their own ingenuity and creativity without government interference.
Far to many people see problems, and sit on their hands and look to the government to do something about it.
The government can’t take from one American and give to another without limiting all Americans.
So though I recognize that those are valid issues…I don’t want the government to fix them, nor do I believe that is the roll of government as envisioned by the founders of this country, I want the government get out of the way.
People look to the government as some sort of altruistic Dutch uncle, making life "fair" and "safe", things that do not exist anywhere. Few recall they brought us Vietnam, and can't even pave the roads or deliver the mail correctly. Government is like fire, well controlled it provides security and comfort. Uncontrolled it destroys everything. We should all be careful wishing the government "should do something" about our problems, or "help" those in need. Stalin is a good example of a government involved in all aspects of a people's nation. Our founding fathers knew best, it is not political parties against one another, it is the governed against the government. And we should never lose sight of the fact that at the core of the apple we are governed, in a word controlled, manipulated, or even subjugated by our federal and state governments. For example, my state's DCNR controls over 2 million acres of land, none of which you are allowed to drink a beer on, or let your 14 year old ride a pedal assist mountain bike. The amount we are all controlled is not genuinely understood because we are at each other's throats over stupid shit.
Yeah, no. Our government, laws and legislation are what make us a civilized society. The fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives is NOT that one party wants the government to help them with all their problems and the other party doesn’t want the government to step in at all. The difference is who the government works for. Conservatives DO NOT want small government. Whenever they get in the office, they blow up the deficit like drunken sailors on RR, with tax breaks for the rich and senseless defense contracts. They want to legislate our bedrooms and doctors visits FFS! Do you call ANY of that small government?! They redistribute the wealth to the upper class while saying that’s what the liberals have been doing….only for the lower class. When each party gets control, they try to pass legislation to help certain demographics that they think will help the country as a whole. Wait for it, here it comes..
The fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives is that the liberals think if you help the poorest, lowest demographics of our country, that will intern help everybody else above them, as well as decrease crime. A sort of, “A rising tide lifts all boats” theory. (I tend to agree with this). Conservatives think the best way to help our country, is if we coddle the richest, top demographics with tax breaks, and cut spending by decreasing services and benefits for the poor. Reagan’s “Trickle down” theory. Sam Brownback, the governor of Kansas, tried this experiment, and it failed miserably.
Those are not good and are a pipe dream. This current “debacle” is not a left/right thing. JM485 was right about a few things, one being that the government is not for the people. It is all a pay to play scheme and they are simply lining their own pockets thanks to companies like big pharm, tech, oil, banks, hedge funds, and mainly Vangaurd, BlackRock, snd State Street.
People who believe that the stimulus was to help the public get back on their feet again after a tough period of time. Our government lies to us every single day, and laughs at us and says we are too stupid to handle the “truth”. The truth is that they do everything possible to distract us from them stealing from us every single fucking day and people vote for these dumb fucks.
To those who went to school for a proper “education” or a piece of paper I feel bad for the majority of them. College is the largest ripoff in the history of mankind outside of the Catholics claiming innocents.
Real knowledge, such as the body, mind, soul, economics(real), can be found in books, and it does not require a BS degree to say you are intelligent and understand concepts. College or universities is the largest inflated sector in the last 50 years. Funny how that works isn’t it?
Yes, most republicans are fake conservatives. I liked candidate Trump, but truthfully, Trump as a president spent like a democrat. At least he picked solid Supreme court justices.
Always saying "yes" to spending other's people's money you really shouldn't have the constitutional authority to do so doesn't make you compassionate; it makes you a thief. And we're already seeing the results of this experiment in thievery play out in real time:
And this here folks, is your uneducated, unread, average blind sheep American. I am sorry buddy, but this thought you just put out is the most media driven nonsense propaganda since JFK was a “great” husband.
Liberal(morans) and conservative (bible thumping alcoholics) has long time been a thing of 1980’s. A smoke and mirror show to keep you blinded from reality. It is who pays those within the Capitol building walls that are controlling things and “our” government simply writes new laws to never be held accountable. Blue and Red are one and the same. A big middle finger to you and I.
A simple check on the internet of political contributors (sponsors) will show who your government really cares about.
Trump “spent” just like all the other Republicans before him spent…Tax breaks and sweet contracts for the rich. Republicans are known for their out of control spending, yet somehow they hang that around the Democrats neck. I refer you to my post above.
As for Trumps solid Supreme Court picks… he has delegitimize that court more than any other person in my lifetime; according to popular public opinion. As you know, Clarence Thomas has presided over many cases where he had a personal interest, and should have recused himself of, but did not. Thomas is as corrupt as can be, and although Trump didn’t pick him, he did pick Roberts, who has the authority to reign in the court’s corruption, but has refused to do so. The supreme court ignored the will of the majority of the people and reversed, roe versus wade. How is that a good thing? How does that help our country? How does that improve your life or anyone else’s?
Typical vital member not addressing a single thing I posted, and personally attacking me.
obviously, you have a hard time understanding me, but what I’m wondering is do you even understand yourself?
“Liberal(morans) and conservative (bible thumping alcoholics) has long time been a thing of 1980’s”….
Can you explain what this means? How about your comment about my education?….Want to compare? If you’re going to knock my education, I don’t think it’s out of line for me to ask how educated you are.
People just say shit here with little to no reasoning.
If that's your opinion of the Supreme Court, I can only guess that you have nothing but glowing praise for the FBI, DOJ, CDC...etc., and the fine job they're doing. So, to be clear, not only is your view of the Supreme Court your opinion, but it is the "popular public opinion"? Can you go over with us again how you achieved the high rank of being the consensus orator of popular public opinion?
Pit Row
I didn’t attack you, I merely pointed out that the “situations” you brought to light are exactly what they want you to do. But please feel free to continue down this road. If your worried about government spending I wouldn’t be. They will just continue to tax you further (say hi 85k IRS workers). Your beloved Pentagon can’t even keep track of $6 billion that just went “unaccounted for”.
Until you bring up real concerns with situations that will make a difference you are just talking the same points that your beloved Democrats are doing. I can read Axos, CNN, and the list keeps going and they will all say the same regurgitated nonsense.
I am all yours huckleberry
I just read your first sentence of your latest post, for which I will reply with your quote:
“And this here folks, is your uneducated, unread, average blind sheep American.”
…. and I read your last sentence. “I am all yours huckleberry”…. for which I will reply, WTF??
You have lost credibility by denying that you personally attacked me, when clearly you did, and by just saying weird shit. You can’t just post shit and say you didn’t post it. You don’t deserve me to read the rest of your nonsense.
I think the FBI, DOJ and CDC have done a fine job under the current administration. I also think it’s crazy that the GOP wants to defund the FBI. What do you think about that?
when I insinuate the majority of the public would like changes to the supreme court, such as checks and balances, recusing procedures, and term limits; that’s me reiterating a fact, that is not me claiming to be “the consensus orator of popular opinion.” WTF is that? You guys come up with sayings that I don’t even understand, so….touché.
Now that I have addressed points that you made in your post, rather than making assumptions, jumping to conclusions and saying snide comments, can you address anything in my posts above, with sound, rational, non-hostile replies?
Jobs, voting rights, reproductive rights, access to healthcare, gun control, national security….what do you got? What’s the GOP have to address these concerns?
But you’re only interested in the here and now, right?
Funniest of all…you came in here telling us how Joe & Dem’s…in general…ARE doing great things…think you implied some history…as compared to Republicans…
Then, when smacked upside the head with actual history…you went all “here and now”…
Then there’s you telling others about their credibility…? WOW!
Bwaaahaaaaahaaaaaa
To be clear, I was on point when I said and I’m still on point when I continue to say…
You Can Not Make This Shit Up
Its because the FBI has become a political tool for the left. They don't want to "DEFUND" the FBI they want to DE politisize the FBI and make them get to what they should be doing.
Red team, blue team, who gives a shit? Imagine if you guys just realized that it's a big club and you aren't in it
It's not the job of the Supreme Court to make rulings based on the will of the majority.
Funny that you have to point that out.
Or, really sad...
The democrats say they fight against poverty, the republicans say they fight against big government. For decades. Either both parties are failures, or liars. Logic dictates which it is.
Say it isn’t so! Haha You mean to tell me this has been going on for a long time and people still gobble it up and think it is “credible”? lol
But but Morning Joe said it so it must be true
The left wants to defund the police! How will that affect poor crime ridden communities across America? (Since you claim to care so much about the poor) I say significantly more than if the FBI was defunded.
And the Supreme Court is beholden to the constitution, not the majority. So what the majority wants, in relation to decisions of the Supreme Court, is irrelevant. The fact that you don’t seem to know that (or worse, know and just don’t care) is sad…let me guess you think this country is a democracy, right?
The more you post, the more clear it becomes that you don’t understand what the constitution means, how our government works, and what has made America the most powerful country in the world. Therefore, you don’t have much credibility.
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