Shimoda´s red light?

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I don’t know if it will work, but I have always felt that if the Red Cross is out, it should be for a full lap...

I don’t know if it will work, but I have always felt that if the Red Cross is out, it should be for a full lap (or however many laps needed) but from the first guy through it, they will be the first rider to have it removed

CPR wrote:

That would be fair, but can you imagine the AMA trying to manage that?!

olds cool wrote:
So to be clear, you guys are suggesting a full course caution situation, correct?  Do you let the field bunch back up or do you make...

So to be clear, you guys are suggesting a full course caution situation, correct?  Do you let the field bunch back up or do you make them keep the same gap?  That would be a total game changer.

If the incident is bad enough for a Red Cross just red flag the race and either re-rack them or stagger start depending on the time left in the race

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2/22/2026 12:38pm

As far as the 250’s go, we now know and so do the riders that if the lights are on but flags are not out, you’re clear to jump! If both lights are on and flag out don’t jump. 

 

450’s, I have nothing for that.

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2/22/2026 12:51pm
I don’t know if it will work, but I have always felt that if the Red Cross is out, it should be for a full lap...

I don’t know if it will work, but I have always felt that if the Red Cross is out, it should be for a full lap (or however many laps needed) but from the first guy through it, they will be the first rider to have it removed

CPR wrote:

That would be fair, but can you imagine the AMA trying to manage that?!

olds cool wrote:
So to be clear, you guys are suggesting a full course caution situation, correct?  Do you let the field bunch back up or do you make...

So to be clear, you guys are suggesting a full course caution situation, correct?  Do you let the field bunch back up or do you make them keep the same gap?  That would be a total game changer.

I think they mean that if a single light comes on that it should stay on for a complete lap.  I could be wrong.

 

Its normal to have a red cross flag and lights for one jump or a section of a couple jumps , without a full course caution. Only time  they have a full course red flag  is when the race/practice  is stopped  and restarted. 

 

But that would be an interesting way of making a race more exciting if everybody is all spread out. It would be a little gimmicky , but NASCAR does similar things.  I don't know that I would want to see it happen in SX/MX.  Maybe it could be something they do in SMX  .

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2/22/2026 1:24pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2026 1:25pm
I don’t know if it will work, but I have always felt that if the Red Cross is out, it should be for a full lap...

I don’t know if it will work, but I have always felt that if the Red Cross is out, it should be for a full lap (or however many laps needed) but from the first guy through it, they will be the first rider to have it removed

CPR wrote:

That would be fair, but can you imagine the AMA trying to manage that?!

olds cool wrote:
So to be clear, you guys are suggesting a full course caution situation, correct?  Do you let the field bunch back up or do you make...

So to be clear, you guys are suggesting a full course caution situation, correct?  Do you let the field bunch back up or do you make them keep the same gap?  That would be a total game changer.

No not a full course caution, just in the section it’s required, as it is now.
However to affect the field equally, the first rider to receive the Red Cross flag should be the first to receive the all clear. That way it offers no advantage to anyone.

At least that’s how I interpreted what blockhead suggested.

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If AMA doesn't try to make some sort of amends to this, they don't know how to manage a fair race. Mike Pelletier is a useless prick. AMA really did nothing when Deegan dangerously tried to trip up his competitor, Jo Shimoda, and here they are going to fuck over Jo Shimoda yet again, it seems.

They should either dock every other rider one position for jumping on the red light, or at least dock Pierce Brown one position for jumping on the red light/ or similarly advance Shimoda one position, so that Brown and Shimoda are tie for the win. Highly unusual, but this is the best way to be fair for this major screw up. AMA needs to be creative instead of sticking their head in the sand all the time.

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Mace-x wrote:

What was that honestly, seems to be a big race direction miss management.

Someone spilled their drink….

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2/22/2026 1:37pm
gt80rider wrote:
Cough cough fixed as fukkk.... cough cough... Can't watch this chit anymore because of the split screen... and even what's on the spilt screen isn't what we...

Cough cough fixed as fukkk.... cough cough... 

Can't watch this chit anymore because of the split screen... and even what's on the spilt screen isn't what we should be seeing..

Can't listen to this chit anymore cause rc talks like a non schooled practice track bruh.... 

And none of the fuking rules seem to matter anymore... so it's not even fair.... 

Unfuking watchable.... 

And...

Honda just gonna let this chit stand???? Wow... just wow.... feld be pissing on everybody (except star who gets special attention).... 

Fixed fixed fixeddddd

What are you saying is fixed? 

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Lars ain't happy.

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gt80rider wrote:
Cough cough fixed as fukkk.... cough cough... Can't watch this chit anymore because of the split screen... and even what's on the spilt screen isn't what we...

Cough cough fixed as fukkk.... cough cough... 

Can't watch this chit anymore because of the split screen... and even what's on the spilt screen isn't what we should be seeing..

Can't listen to this chit anymore cause rc talks like a non schooled practice track bruh.... 

And none of the fuking rules seem to matter anymore... so it's not even fair.... 

Unfuking watchable.... 

And...

Honda just gonna let this chit stand???? Wow... just wow.... feld be pissing on everybody (except star who gets special attention).... 

Fixed fixed fixeddddd

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RACING wrote:
Lars ain't happy.

Lars ain't happy.

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He’s right. I think the Eli one was a little more on the margins but the situation in the 250 main is clear as day. There is even a flagger POINTING AT THE RED LIGHT, like “hey look, you need to not jump”

We had a similar penalty last year where someone jumped on a Red Cross even though there was no riders in danger but they still penalized the guys who jumped. Why is this any different? 

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RACING wrote:
Lars ain't happy.

Lars ain't happy.

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Lars stated it perfectly. It’s really not that difficult, AMA Pro Racing follow your rule book. 

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2/22/2026 1:57pm

So no penalty for the "MONSTER ENERGY" Yamaha rider? 

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2/22/2026 2:00pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2026 2:07pm

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMA = JOKE!!!!

I guess ALL riders will jump on red lights in the future 

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He’s right. I think the Eli one was a little more on the margins but the situation in the 250 main is clear as day. There...

He’s right. I think the Eli one was a little more on the margins but the situation in the 250 main is clear as day. There is even a flagger POINTING AT THE RED LIGHT, like “hey look, you need to not jump”

We had a similar penalty last year where someone jumped on a Red Cross even though there was no riders in danger but they still penalized the guys who jumped. Why is this any different? 

Man if tomac wouldn't have jumped the finish and Webb and roczen did, that would've been sketchy. 

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Between this and Jett's penalty last year, I would be burning the AMA down if I were Lars.

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Just run that fucker!

The coal rolling bros of Huntington Beach are running red lights in my neighborhood non stop. We’re fucked. 

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DeCoster & Star Yamaha remain a protected species... 

 

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arebnac
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AMA: Just ignore the red light...
 - Then next race someone ignores the red light.
AMA: Nope, thats a red light, you cant ignore
Rider: but you said....
AMA: Nope, different situation

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It’s clear as day the light was on for pierce, no penalty? I’m so confused with the logic these days. 

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Its really not hard, its on fkn video, follow your own gd rule book! This is just showing theyre cowards and too scared to lose face so theyd rather f jo, but theyre losing face regardless cuz this is busch league. Foh.

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2/22/2026 3:03pm

Doesn’t J Bone have a big say in these things?? How does he just let this slide? Fuckin weird 

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Bow977 wrote:

It’s clear as day the light was on for pierce, no penalty? I’m so confused with the logic these days. 

I'm guessing that there will be penalties, but no loss in finish positions, only points. 

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Bow977 wrote:

It’s clear as day the light was on for pierce, no penalty? I’m so confused with the logic these days. 

SLAPAHO wrote:

I'm guessing that there will be penalties, but no loss in finish positions, only points. 

According to Kellen just a bit ago, no penalties at all... full BS in effect.

 What we have here...is new boss, just as bad as the old boss with SX rules... so much for change, standards and consistency with rules.

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Bow977 wrote:

It’s clear as day the light was on for pierce, no penalty? I’m so confused with the logic these days. 

SLAPAHO wrote:

I'm guessing that there will be penalties, but no loss in finish positions, only points. 

RangerLee wrote:
According to Kellen just a bit ago, no penalties at all... full BS in effect. What we have here...is new boss, just as bad as the old...

According to Kellen just a bit ago, no penalties at all... full BS in effect.

 What we have here...is new boss, just as bad as the old boss with SX rules... so much for change, standards and consistency with rules.

There's a protest underway, we'll see where it ends up....it's not over yet

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Let's not forget that when they hid a tiny red flag in the corner before the finish line and Jett jumped it they penalized him. A fucking joke. Star can jump on red flags and fail sound check but if anyone else does it…

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2/22/2026 3:56pm

This is a HUGE black eye for the race officials.

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