2018 KTM Bar Mounts

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3/28/2018 1:25 PM

I am replacing my bar mounts on my bike due to that they are bent. I don’t want the stock ones they don’t seem to be very strong seeing as they bent from a tip over in a corner, any good aftermarket recommendations??

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3/28/2018 2:19 PM

2016 KTM OEM lower bar mount. It is a one piece design.

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3/28/2018 2:23 PM

exbmxmx wrote:

2016 KTM OEM lower bar mount. It is a one piece design.

it will fit??

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3/28/2018 2:52 PM

Fly part number 18-9495. i am fairly certain Zeta might make something similar also.

http://www.flyracing.com/product/moto/hard-parts/bar-mount-kits/ktmhusqvarna-stabilizer-bar-mount/5239/black

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

3/28/2018 3:01 PM

My son has bent the stock 2016 bar mounts during a pretty good crash last year but you know what else bent? Nothing. The relatively cheap bar mounts absorbed most of the crash energy and saved the expensive forks, wheels, triple clamps or frame from any damage. So replacing weak parts with strong parts is not always the best option as long as the weak part is not failing during normal use.

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4/11/2018 5:02 PM

May be a little late for you, but our stock bar mount replacements just became available. Check them out on our triple clamp page here:

Luxon MX Bar Mounts

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Billy Wight
Luxon MX
@LuxonMX
https://luxonmx.com
Motocross Components Engineered for Performance

4/11/2018 6:23 PM

Luxon MX wrote:

May be a little late for you, but our stock bar mount replacements just became available. Check them out on our triple clamp ...more

Those look very nice.

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4/13/2018 6:34 AM

My mate and I both have 2018 model Husqvarna MX bikes and we have both bent bout bar mounts. My mate has the Ride engineering bar mount, to me it sets the standard that all else are judged off, next would be the Fastway Bar mount, it looks solid as a rock and then theres the Luxon bar mount, new on the scene so haven't heard much but looks really nice, for sure if the new husky's didn't have billet Neken clamps already i would be thinking hard about their triple clamps.

I think I'm going to go the Fastway mount tho,it looks tough as.

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4/13/2018 8:09 AM

Those Luxon mounts look impressive!

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4/13/2018 12:30 PM

Anything is better than 2016 stock mounts, they bend if you look at them funny! 2017-18 are better, but not that great. The concept of the 2016 mounts, a solid lower mount, is very good but poorly executed. It just needs to be strong enough to handle the loads. A solid top mount is the next best thing to a solid bottom, but not ideal.

When things twist from a tip over with a standard mount, everything contributes to twisting. The rubber cones allow movement (as they should) and the whole assembly twists through the bolted interface with the bars on a long lever arm. This is why a solid top mount is not ideal - it allows that long stack up of parts to twist. With a (strong enough) solid lower mount, the only portion that can twist is the bolted interface at the bars so it is much more resistant to twisting. This is why we went with a solid lower, not a solid upper. You can always go with both as solid, but it's a bit overkill. A solid lower also makes it much easier to install as both mounts are already aligned when you tighten everything down.

We've done a lot of analysis and testing of different bar mount designs to arrive at the design we have now. The biggest issue with the Fastway and the Fly mounts linked here is that they're just a rectangular box structure. That's about as weak as it gets when it comes to structural shapes! Our design is indeed a box structure, but adds a truss-like support under the bars resulting in a much stiffer/stronger structure. Here's a finite element comparison to 2016 stock, ours is nearly 7x stronger. Pink/grey areas in the plots are failure spots (high stress, e.g. bent/twisted):

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We've actually reduced the strength slightly since that analysis was run as the goal was to arrive at a design that is strong enough to not twist under normal use and tip-overs, but will bend in a major crash. And by major crash, I mean something that's ending your day, not something that you can pick the bike up and keep riding. In that event, something has to give. If you're going to sacrifice something, it's much cheaper to replace one part of the bar mounts than a triple clamp or forks!

The Ride engineering mount isn't bad, but they're using a solid upper mount rather than a solid lower as I mentioned above. They're using 4 M6 bolts rather than the 2 M8 bolts most use, which will help reduce twisting slightly that gives ~10% more clamping force on the bars. But now you have twice as many bolts to tighten for only a 10% increase that would have come much easier with a solid lower mount.

Regardless, whichever one you choose is almost certainly going to be better than stock!

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Billy Wight
Luxon MX
@LuxonMX
https://luxonmx.com
Motocross Components Engineered for Performance

4/13/2018 12:49 PM

I twisted the mounts very easily on my first 2 450FEs and to solve that problem I went with Xtrig PHDS mounts on last yrs and this yrs. Much beefier and have more movement with the elastomers. Photo

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4/13/2018 1:21 PM

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We did some back to back testing with our mount design (rubber mounted same as stock, just different mounts), the Xtrig mounts, and solid mounts. The rider feedback and vibration data didn't really show any clear advantage to the Xtrig, plus the Xtrig mounts are twice the weight of our design. One thing to note is that while the Xtrig mounts have large elastomers which allow good movement under impact, vibration damping and movement in other directions is rather limited by tiny rubber cones internally. Here's a cross section compared to stock style mounts (the small rubber cones I mention are red, under the green piece):

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Being the the rubber is much closer to the bars on the Xtrig, it takes a lot more of it to get the same movement as the stock mounts with the rubber further away. Not trying to bash the Xtrig stuff as they're good mounts, but we found the stock style offers the same performance at half the weight, so we stuck with that for our products.


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Billy Wight
Luxon MX
@LuxonMX
https://luxonmx.com
Motocross Components Engineered for Performance

4/15/2018 4:28 PM

I’ve been running the Ride Eng mounts on my bikes and really like them. Definitely the standard for all others to be judged to.

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4/15/2018 5:51 PM

Digger29 wrote:

I twisted the mounts very easily on my first 2 450FEs and to solve that problem I went with Xtrig PHDS mounts on last yrs and ...more

+1 for the PHDS

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4/15/2018 11:23 PM

Digger29 wrote:

I twisted the mounts very easily on my first 2 450FEs and to solve that problem I went with Xtrig PHDS mounts on last yrs and ...more

Do these fit in stock 2018 clamps? And if you know do they fit the newer factory edition/19 models?

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4/17/2018 6:36 AM

Digger29 wrote:

I twisted the mounts very easily on my first 2 450FEs and to solve that problem I went with Xtrig PHDS mounts on last yrs and ...more

Lynch wrote:

Do these fit in stock 2018 clamps? And if you know do they fit the newer factory edition/19 models?

Yes, they the Xtrigs fit the 16-18s and this is my new 18.5 factory edition so they'll definitely fit the 19 models as well.

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4/17/2018 1:14 PM

Digger29 wrote:

Yes, they the Xtrigs fit the 16-18s and this is my new 18.5 factory edition so they'll definitely fit the 19 models as well.

Thank you Digger, now just gotta play the waiting game until the 19' models come to Sweden.

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4/17/2018 4:01 PM

Lynch wrote:

Do these fit in stock 2018 clamps? And if you know do they fit the newer factory edition/19 models?

Digger29 wrote:

Yes, they the Xtrigs fit the 16-18s and this is my new 18.5 factory edition so they'll definitely fit the 19 models as well.

Lynch wrote:

Thank you Digger, now just gotta play the waiting game until the 19' models come to Sweden.

No problem. It was just like the rumors good and bad and then the waiting game for my new factory edition.

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4/18/2018 4:32 PM

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