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ATKpilot99 wrote:
[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uH5IMv2jeuk/maxresdefault.jpg[/img] Joe Rogan's doctor .


Joe Rogan's doctor .
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Rogan likely shares the same doctor as the Hyena standing beside Joe Biden. Laughing
OK. That one almost got some Modelo spray.
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Video quality? Sure. But the atlerted video is basically the same resolution. Hue and tone doesn't just change like that just from pulling from IG. CNN...
Video quality? Sure. But the atlerted video is basically the same resolution. Hue and tone doesn't just change like that just from pulling from IG.
CNN has access to Rogans videos. They ran with the altered version anyway.

Like I said, at best opinions, at worst propaganda to advance the interest of various factions of the global elite.
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1/7/2022 4:28pm Edited Date/Time 1/7/2022 4:34pm
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Like I said, at best opinions, at worst propaganda to advance the interest of various factions of the global elite.
You know it's okay to believe CNN takes a big part in fake news and the Associated Press is pure garbage without pulling the "global elite" "new world order" card.
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I have to ask who here trusts their own physician and who just thinks they're an extension of big pharma ? And if you think that...
I have to ask who here trusts their own physician and who just thinks they're an extension of big pharma ? And if you think that way do you get the majority of your medical advice through interviews like this or other sources?
Most GP’s are just pill pushers and have to rush patients through an appt. to be able to handle their patient load. I definitely will take a specialist more seriously than a family doctor. I trust my ortho because he is good and open to new ideas and points of view. He also involved in a lot of research and new techniques. He never pushes me to surgery and is very honest about my options. Brutally honest. I trust the new ENT I have that helped me deal with some post concussion and neck issues because he also is young and open to new ideas. Total opposite of the last ENT who was in his late 60’s, refused to admit or accept there was a connection between jaw, neck and sinuses relating to TBI’s and Whiplash. He only was interested in seeing me if meant he could get me into an unnecessary surgery. I have a great new nurse practitioner who is more thorough than any GP I have ever had. She does not push drugs into me, she prefers to take a functional medicine approach. She has granted me every referral I have requested.
I just had a stress test and the cardiologist had a very open discussion about Covid and vaccines with me. That was my 3rd stress test with him.
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I find it strange that people here think CNN photo shopped a video to make somebody, whom admitted to being sick, look sick…and that nobody is...
I find it strange that people here think CNN photo shopped a video to make somebody, whom admitted to being sick, look sick…and that nobody is mentioning what Dr. Leana Wen is actually saying in the video. She makes Joe sound crazy AND dangerous.
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What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that? Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was...
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that?

Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was altered from the original but they went with it anyway. Then AP news blatantly lied about it with their spectacular "fact checking".
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for Joe.
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So the podcast is 3 hours? I don’t have 3 hours to dedicate to a podcast. Sounds like it’s very popular though, so can someone post...
So the podcast is 3 hours? I don’t have 3 hours to dedicate to a podcast. Sounds like it’s very popular though, so can someone post the main takeaways please?
Covid sucks, it affects people differently, it’s a serious virus that we need to get under control, the vaccine has a lot of negative side affects however it’s a step in the right direction, we shouldn’t be ok with not continuing to find better cures, the government shouldn’t be trusted and are doing some shady stuff, Dr. Fauci is not doing what’s best for the citizens, Pfizer is historically the most corrupt pharmaceutical company ever, Twitter is connected to pfizer which is why a lot of stuff gets taken down, 16,000 (If I recall correctly) medical professionals (doctors and scientists) have come together to fight what Fauci and the government are doing however a lot of them are getting their medical licenses pulled and they’re being wiped clean from social media, and a few other points I’m sure I missed. It’s a great listen that’s highly informative and presents a lot of actual FACTS. Yes, facts, which can’t be debated.
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I find it strange that people here think CNN photo shopped a video to make somebody, whom admitted to being sick, look sick…and that nobody is...
I find it strange that people here think CNN photo shopped a video to make somebody, whom admitted to being sick, look sick…and that nobody is mentioning what Dr. Leana Wen is actually saying in the video. She makes Joe sound crazy AND dangerous.
308 wrote:
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that? Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was...
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that?

Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was altered from the original but they went with it anyway. Then AP news blatantly lied about it with their spectacular "fact checking".
agn5008 wrote:
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for...
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for Joe.
It’s funny when people downvote a factual post. There is absolutely nothing I said above that can be debated. You can try, but you will fail. Was he given certain meds by his doctor? Yes. Were his symptoms pretty mild? Yes. Did he get better in 3-4 days? Yes. Can anyone debate that what joe was given didn’t work for him? No.

Will it work for everyone? Nope. Probably not.
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You know it's okay to believe CNN takes a big part in fake news and the Associated Press is pure garbage without pulling the "global elite"...
You know it's okay to believe CNN takes a big part in fake news and the Associated Press is pure garbage without pulling the "global elite" "new world order" card.
What I said about Dr Malones posts were his words, I remember seeing them and thinking; so that's where you're going with this? Can't pull them up because the account got taken down.

It's no secret that there's always been a ruling class in the world and many different for of elites. Monarchies, finance families, industrial families, oil families, religious rulers of a different sects and there's no reason to believe that won't be the case because you start following someone else. I happen to like the trajectory of the west of the last 85 years.
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So the podcast is 3 hours? I don’t have 3 hours to dedicate to a podcast. Sounds like it’s very popular though, so can someone post...
So the podcast is 3 hours? I don’t have 3 hours to dedicate to a podcast. Sounds like it’s very popular though, so can someone post the main takeaways please?
agn5008 wrote:
Covid sucks, it affects people differently, it’s a serious virus that we need to get under control, the vaccine has a lot of negative side affects...
Covid sucks, it affects people differently, it’s a serious virus that we need to get under control, the vaccine has a lot of negative side affects however it’s a step in the right direction, we shouldn’t be ok with not continuing to find better cures, the government shouldn’t be trusted and are doing some shady stuff, Dr. Fauci is not doing what’s best for the citizens, Pfizer is historically the most corrupt pharmaceutical company ever, Twitter is connected to pfizer which is why a lot of stuff gets taken down, 16,000 (If I recall correctly) medical professionals (doctors and scientists) have come together to fight what Fauci and the government are doing however a lot of them are getting their medical licenses pulled and they’re being wiped clean from social media, and a few other points I’m sure I missed. It’s a great listen that’s highly informative and presents a lot of actual FACTS. Yes, facts, which can’t be debated.
Thank you for the summary. Appreciate it.
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I have to ask who here trusts their own physician and who just thinks they're an extension of big pharma ? And if you think that...
I have to ask who here trusts their own physician and who just thinks they're an extension of big pharma ? And if you think that way do you get the majority of your medical advice through interviews like this or other sources?
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Most GP’s are just pill pushers and have to rush patients through an appt. to be able to handle their patient load. I definitely will take...
Most GP’s are just pill pushers and have to rush patients through an appt. to be able to handle their patient load. I definitely will take a specialist more seriously than a family doctor. I trust my ortho because he is good and open to new ideas and points of view. He also involved in a lot of research and new techniques. He never pushes me to surgery and is very honest about my options. Brutally honest. I trust the new ENT I have that helped me deal with some post concussion and neck issues because he also is young and open to new ideas. Total opposite of the last ENT who was in his late 60’s, refused to admit or accept there was a connection between jaw, neck and sinuses relating to TBI’s and Whiplash. He only was interested in seeing me if meant he could get me into an unnecessary surgery. I have a great new nurse practitioner who is more thorough than any GP I have ever had. She does not push drugs into me, she prefers to take a functional medicine approach. She has granted me every referral I have requested.
I just had a stress test and the cardiologist had a very open discussion about Covid and vaccines with me. That was my 3rd stress test with him.
I had a different experience. I learned to not listen to my Ortho Surgeon. The shit he put me through. I finally had to demand an MRI. PT was making things worse. WTF? As soon as the results came in they xfered me to a pain specialist. That fucker never answered his phone. My new GP who is young and a DO hooked me up with a pain specialist who is getting shit done.
Not trying to call you out on anything, really. Just a different experience. I actually do kind of trust GP but you have to do your own DD on this shit. You are right. If your GP does medicare, it's a cattle chute. It's the only way they make any money.
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It’s funny when people downvote a factual post. There is absolutely nothing I said above that can be debated. You can try, but you will fail...
It’s funny when people downvote a factual post. There is absolutely nothing I said above that can be debated. You can try, but you will fail. Was he given certain meds by his doctor? Yes. Were his symptoms pretty mild? Yes. Did he get better in 3-4 days? Yes. Can anyone debate that what joe was given didn’t work for him? No.

Will it work for everyone? Nope. Probably not.
The thing is is that he didn't let his body fight its own fight. By his account upon diagnosis he immediately took an experimental antibody treatment, a very powerful antibiotic, a steroid and an antiparasitic. All drugs made by Big Pharma.

I was vaccinated and got covid about a month ago and I was largely symptom free after 3 or 4 days with sleep, soup, and tea. I'd call it a push.

At this point I think we can say that the vaccinations are not as effective as promised and not as dangerous as threatened.

As for Doctors, it's like everything else, there are good ones and not so good ones, and most of all, for the majority of them it's a job that they show up at most waking hours of their lives. There are alot that chose the profession for family legacy, money, and status over any deep interest in unlocking the secrets of the human body and mind, but there's just a very small fraction that would ever give advice maliciously.
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It’s funny when people downvote a factual post. There is absolutely nothing I said above that can be debated. You can try, but you will fail...
It’s funny when people downvote a factual post. There is absolutely nothing I said above that can be debated. You can try, but you will fail. Was he given certain meds by his doctor? Yes. Were his symptoms pretty mild? Yes. Did he get better in 3-4 days? Yes. Can anyone debate that what joe was given didn’t work for him? No.

Will it work for everyone? Nope. Probably not.
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The thing is is that he didn't let his body fight its own fight. By his account upon diagnosis he immediately took an experimental antibody treatment...
The thing is is that he didn't let his body fight its own fight. By his account upon diagnosis he immediately took an experimental antibody treatment, a very powerful antibiotic, a steroid and an antiparasitic. All drugs made by Big Pharma.

I was vaccinated and got covid about a month ago and I was largely symptom free after 3 or 4 days with sleep, soup, and tea. I'd call it a push.

At this point I think we can say that the vaccinations are not as effective as promised and not as dangerous as threatened.

As for Doctors, it's like everything else, there are good ones and not so good ones, and most of all, for the majority of them it's a job that they show up at most waking hours of their lives. There are alot that chose the profession for family legacy, money, and status over any deep interest in unlocking the secrets of the human body and mind, but there's just a very small fraction that would ever give advice maliciously.
Most would agree that a vaccine is a good thing. We all want a vaccine that works very well and limits the deaths. Dr. Malone is vaccinated by the way. The argument a lot of us have is there is other medications that seem to work very well but for some reason the government refuses to acknowledge it. That’s why Dr. Malone is so furious. There’s a lot more going on here and Dr. Malone sees it happening first hand.

He personally knows Dr. Fauci and worked alongside him. He doesn’t seem to be too impressed with his actions.
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Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off, I will give you all that, but what about the spoken words?… The part where it’s shared that ivermectin doesn’t work on Covid and, in fact, can be dangerous.
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That podcast introduced me to the term Mass Formation Psychosis.

That dynamic could be tagged to Jonestown, lots followers of sporting teams, and all the people in the kingdom featured in The Emperor's New Clothes.

I will be researching the bejesus out of that term. I want to know why so many people are so strong (To a fault) in their vaccine stance.
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1/7/2022 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 1/7/2022 7:24pm
Motoxdoc wrote:
Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off...
Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off, I will give you all that, but what about the spoken words?… The part where it’s shared that ivermectin doesn’t work on Covid and, in fact, can be dangerous.
What about the factual message of the video?

Stating that ivermectin doesn't work on Covid is not accurate. That is, at best an opinion, and perhaps more likely an intentional lie. A conservatively accurate statement is that it is not yet clear if ivermectin is effective with covid - clinical trials have not been clear if ivermectin is effective for covid, Some existing trials say there is no benefit, and some existing trials say there is a benefit. No LARGE SCALE clinical trials for testing the effectiveness of covid are complete.

This is discussed ad nauseum on many Rogan episodes.

The statement that ivermectin can, "in fact", be dangerous is clearly proven to be false based on the ~26 negative outcomes out of 4,000,000,000 doses administered. No associated deaths, if I recall correctly. Ivermectin has been used for decades across the world and is one of the most benign medicines available. Again, discussed ad nauseum on JRE and others.

Those are facts. Dr Len made inaccurate statements regarding the effectiveness, and made very vague statements about the potential negatives (without quantifying them at all).

So the factual message of the video is way off base. The video is highly sensationalized, and they edited the colors to make Rogan look sick(er).
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That podcast introduced me to the term Mass Formation Psychosis. That dynamic could be tagged to Jonestown, lots followers of sporting teams, and all the people...
That podcast introduced me to the term Mass Formation Psychosis.

That dynamic could be tagged to Jonestown, lots followers of sporting teams, and all the people in the kingdom featured in The Emperor's New Clothes.

I will be researching the bejesus out of that term. I want to know why so many people are so strong (To a fault) in their vaccine stance.
Check out JRE #1747 for a bunch more info
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my dr prescribed me ivermectin when I had covid last year, along with a strong antibiotic and numerous supplements. The whole push to prevent other solutions should be enough evidence to show something is up with all this. The lies about ivermectin, hydroxy cl., and the monoclonal antibodies, are obvious.
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Motoxdoc wrote:
Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off...
Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off, I will give you all that, but what about the spoken words?… The part where it’s shared that ivermectin doesn’t work on Covid and, in fact, can be dangerous.
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What about the factual message of the video? Stating that ivermectin doesn't work on Covid is not accurate. That is, at best an opinion, and perhaps...
What about the factual message of the video?

Stating that ivermectin doesn't work on Covid is not accurate. That is, at best an opinion, and perhaps more likely an intentional lie. A conservatively accurate statement is that it is not yet clear if ivermectin is effective with covid - clinical trials have not been clear if ivermectin is effective for covid, Some existing trials say there is no benefit, and some existing trials say there is a benefit. No LARGE SCALE clinical trials for testing the effectiveness of covid are complete.

This is discussed ad nauseum on many Rogan episodes.

The statement that ivermectin can, "in fact", be dangerous is clearly proven to be false based on the ~26 negative outcomes out of 4,000,000,000 doses administered. No associated deaths, if I recall correctly. Ivermectin has been used for decades across the world and is one of the most benign medicines available. Again, discussed ad nauseum on JRE and others.

Those are facts. Dr Len made inaccurate statements regarding the effectiveness, and made very vague statements about the potential negatives (without quantifying them at all).

So the factual message of the video is way off base. The video is highly sensationalized, and they edited the colors to make Rogan look sick(er).
We will just have to agree to disagree on whether ivermectin works for Covid, or that it can be dangerous when used to treat covid, or that there have been numerous studies on it, throughout the world, with regards to its effectiveness in treating Covid, that Dr. Wen misled us with an “intentional lie” because….she’s trying to own the conservatives?Dry …or that CNN has any reason to want to make Joe look sicker than he is.
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1/7/2022 10:04pm Edited Date/Time 1/7/2022 10:15pm
Motoxdoc wrote:
I find it strange that people here think CNN photo shopped a video to make somebody, whom admitted to being sick, look sick…and that nobody is...
I find it strange that people here think CNN photo shopped a video to make somebody, whom admitted to being sick, look sick…and that nobody is mentioning what Dr. Leana Wen is actually saying in the video. She makes Joe sound crazy AND dangerous.
308 wrote:
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that? Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was...
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that?

Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was altered from the original but they went with it anyway. Then AP news blatantly lied about it with their spectacular "fact checking".
agn5008 wrote:
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for...
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for Joe.
Monoclonal antibodies as soon as his test was positive. Only rich and powerful had access to them. $1,250 per infusion. Technically it is used for high risk of fatality patients. The same Trump got.
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308 wrote:
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that? Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was...
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that?

Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was altered from the original but they went with it anyway. Then AP news blatantly lied about it with their spectacular "fact checking".
agn5008 wrote:
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for...
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for Joe.
agn5008 wrote:
It’s funny when people downvote a factual post. There is absolutely nothing I said above that can be debated. You can try, but you will fail...
It’s funny when people downvote a factual post. There is absolutely nothing I said above that can be debated. You can try, but you will fail. Was he given certain meds by his doctor? Yes. Were his symptoms pretty mild? Yes. Did he get better in 3-4 days? Yes. Can anyone debate that what joe was given didn’t work for him? No.

Will it work for everyone? Nope. Probably not.
The people who downvote posts like this are the problem. They want to blindly follow the government, and big pharm, they have 100% been brainwashed. There is no other explanation as to why they would not want to actually know the facts.
Thankfully these people are becoming the minority, people are starting to wake up. What they’ve been sold just isn’t making sense. People who are capable of critical thinking may have been lead astray but they know that this isn’t all making sense anymore.
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Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off...
Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off, I will give you all that, but what about the spoken words?… The part where it’s shared that ivermectin doesn’t work on Covid and, in fact, can be dangerous.
They couldn’t even refer to Ivermectin without mentioning the term “horse dewormer.” If that whole clip didn’t smell like a smear campaign I don’t know what does. It has been FDA approved for human use for 25 years.
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Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off...
Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off, I will give you all that, but what about the spoken words?… The part where it’s shared that ivermectin doesn’t work on Covid and, in fact, can be dangerous.
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They couldn’t even refer to Ivermectin without mentioning the term “horse dewormer.” If that whole clip didn’t smell like a smear campaign I don’t know what...
They couldn’t even refer to Ivermectin without mentioning the term “horse dewormer.” If that whole clip didn’t smell like a smear campaign I don’t know what does. It has been FDA approved for human use for 25 years.
How anyone can justify this is beyond me. I’d love to see motoxdoc try to give a reason why. He won’t though. He will ignore it like it never happened.
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308 wrote:
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that? Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was...
What? Joe took what his doctor prescribed him but he's crazy and dangerous for doing that?

Above is undeniable proof that video shown on CNN was altered from the original but they went with it anyway. Then AP news blatantly lied about it with their spectacular "fact checking".
agn5008 wrote:
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for...
And his symptoms were mild and he was fine after 3-4 days. So I would lean toward saying whatever his doctor gave him clearly worked for Joe.
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Monoclonal antibodies as soon as his test was positive. Only rich and powerful had access to them. $1,250 per infusion. Technically it is used for high...
Monoclonal antibodies as soon as his test was positive. Only rich and powerful had access to them. $1,250 per infusion. Technically it is used for high risk of fatality patients. The same Trump got.
Anyone can get them in the US where offered. You don’t need to be Rich or elite.
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Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off...
Has anybody listened to what Dr. Leana Wen had to say? What about addressing the actual message of the video? The colors and hues were off, I will give you all that, but what about the spoken words?… The part where it’s shared that ivermectin doesn’t work on Covid and, in fact, can be dangerous.
No one in their right mind with an ounce of common sense would listen to a thing she says. The only thing I’ve heard come out of her mouth that actually makes any sense was that masks are just theatre and don’t work. Another glowing example of how anyone can get a medical degree if they know how to study and get good grades.
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Any human is capable of anything swordfish.

Can’t be. Humans cant fly….well a human invented an airplane.
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The people who downvote posts like this are the problem. They want to blindly follow the government, and big pharm, they have 100% been brainwashed. There...
The people who downvote posts like this are the problem. They want to blindly follow the government, and big pharm, they have 100% been brainwashed. There is no other explanation as to why they would not want to actually know the facts.
Thankfully these people are becoming the minority, people are starting to wake up. What they’ve been sold just isn’t making sense. People who are capable of critical thinking may have been lead astray but they know that this isn’t all making sense anymore.
You may have Mass formation psychosis. Perhaps some invermectin would help.Cool
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We will just have to agree to disagree on whether ivermectin works for Covid, or that it can be dangerous when used to treat covid, or...
We will just have to agree to disagree on whether ivermectin works for Covid, or that it can be dangerous when used to treat covid, or that there have been numerous studies on it, throughout the world, with regards to its effectiveness in treating Covid, that Dr. Wen misled us with an “intentional lie” because….she’s trying to own the conservatives?Dry …or that CNN has any reason to want to make Joe look sicker than he is.
Just curious - what kind of doctor are you? Honest question...
1/9/2022 6:17pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2022 6:18pm
Nate, it doesn’t matter….group think is toxic. You gotta have a good balance from all sides to keep it going.
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1/10/2022 12:31pm
Nate, it doesn’t matter….group think is toxic. You gotta have a good balance from all sides to keep it going.
very true....when I was a young engineer, an older greybeard sage told me that "if you can't defend and articulate your ideas, they may not be very good ones".

I do think it's absolutely fascinating to see clowns being touted as "experts" and true experts being de-platformed. Never thought I would see the level of gas lighting and willful ignorance, or unwillingness to step back and apply some basic common sense to things. The official narrative is unraveling, but there are some that will hold on no matter the evidence...
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Nate, it doesn’t matter….group think is toxic. You gotta have a good balance from all sides to keep it going.
very true....when I was a young engineer, an older greybeard sage told me that "if you can't defend and articulate your ideas, they may not be...
very true....when I was a young engineer, an older greybeard sage told me that "if you can't defend and articulate your ideas, they may not be very good ones".

I do think it's absolutely fascinating to see clowns being touted as "experts" and true experts being de-platformed. Never thought I would see the level of gas lighting and willful ignorance, or unwillingness to step back and apply some basic common sense to things. The official narrative is unraveling, but there are some that will hold on no matter the evidence...
Give the Oliver Stone-Rogan interview a listen, it describes your last point exactly and shows that when it suits "they" will try pull the wool over everyones eyes.
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